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Big Gulp
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 Cars I like the Cars, but they don't really strike me as a band whose songs I want to play. The Judas Priest album had one, and only one song that I wanted, and that's You've Got Another Thing Coming. I'm still waiting for Who's Next with baited breath, and thankfully Doolittle is coming out soon. That sucker will get bought immediately because it's the Pixies. Although I wish they'd done Surfer Rosa instead. |
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The Cars stuff will be fun for party settings. Not much shredding or super fast drum work to be done, but it should be fun to play and sing.
Difficulty sure ramps up on expert. I can sing "Train in Vain" to a 95-100% score without watching the screen on Medium, and cruise through it on hard (although not quite as easily). I can't get more than 30% into expert before I die. I am starting to believe the stories of the artist who couldn't sing his own goddamned song on expert.
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Hmm.. The Cars. Not bad, but we're getting into plain ole karaoke territory now.
If only there were Television songs ....Whose sound the Cars basically ripped off, made more accessible, but couldn't play as well as. Easy mode would be Hard mode with that band.
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Grand Design
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Bye Bye Love.
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Prospero
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Rock Band 2 announced. The big talking points: Yes, your DLC will work. "All of the songs that you've purchased so far (and will be able to purchase in the future) are instantly playable and fully supported in Rock Band 2. We've even added some cool new features that let you play your DLC in different ways, which I think people will be very excited to get their hands on."
Yes, Rock Band 2 DLC will work on your existing game. "As far as Harmonix is concerned, there's no difference between 'Rock Band 1 DLC' and 'Rock Band 2 DLC'—we're just releasing awesome songs every week onto the Rock Band platform, all of which are playable by the Rock Band titles that support DLC."
The annoying UI quirks with bands will be fixed. "One of our biggest focuses of the design team has been to make the game "party safe." We've made navigation improvements to Rock Band 2 across the board based on the feedback we've been getting both from fans on forums as well as from our own personal experiences at Rock Band nights."
Your guitars and drums will work with RB2, but you'll want the new ones. "...we've been able to take all of the feedback we've received to make quieter, more realistic, and more reliable instruments. We've also added some features for players to customize the experience that they want to have, but we'll be talking more about this soon. And yes, all of your Rock Band instruments will still work with Rock Band 2."
Band World Tour will be improved. "Nobody wants to play 'Green Grass and High Tides' in their first random setlist, or Metallica when their parents are playing Easy Guitar. We've made some pretty cool changes here that both preserve the 'risk-reward' nature of random setlists while also providing players with the option of avoiding specific types of music." They are also talking about ways built into the game to transition from plastic guitars to the real deal. The DLC working for versions in the dealmaker for me. I'll be getting this for sure now.
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« Last Edit: June 30, 2008, 08:46:52 AM by Prospero »
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If they me play the set list from RB1 as well as the DLC it is a no brainer. Not that I am not totally sick of a few of the songs, but there are some really good ones I would miss.
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Morfiend
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As far as I can tell they are also beating GHWT to release. RB2 looks like it is set for September and GHTW is slated for Oct 21 release.
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Abagadro
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Dtrain
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I'm boycotting any future Guitar Hero applications due to the guitar compatibility issue with Rock Band. My choice there is easy, but yes - competition is good (except when it's bad.)
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Samwise
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 If I'd paid $200 for Rock Band 1 I'd be feeling like a pretty big chump right about now. |
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Big Gulp
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If I'd paid $200 for Rock Band 1 I'd be feeling like a pretty big chump right about now.
Why? I got a year worth of drunken jamming with my friends. That's easily $200 worth of entertainment for me. Plus, my drum kit still works fine, and I can just buy the $60 instrumentless version of RB2 when it hits. Although I am tempted by the new, quieter drum kit. |
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Samwise
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The RB1 controllers were in no way worth $200. Even if I owned them, I'd still be either buying the full version of RB2 or buying third-party controllers to replace them.
Don't get me wrong, the rumored free content is a great deal. So much so that I'm skeptical, honestly. It'd make much more sense for it to be free for RB1 owners (since they've already paid for it) and a giant song pack for everyone else (say, the cost of RB1 minus the controllers).
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God I fucking hate when they use live versions of songs. That basically ruined the Jimmy Buffett pack. |
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Ingmar
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The RB1 controllers were in no way worth $200. Even if I owned them, I'd still be either buying the full version of RB2 or buying third-party controllers to replace them.
Don't get me wrong, the rumored free content is a great deal. So much so that I'm skeptical, honestly. It'd make much more sense for it to be free for RB1 owners (since they've already paid for it) and a giant song pack for everyone else (say, the cost of RB1 minus the controllers).
Sure, in a vaccuum they weren't worth $200. But that isn't the question for figuring out if it was a waste of money, the question is, what is the per-hour entertainment value of the game. If 3 of my friends and I play Rock Band for 50 hours (which is probably on the low end for a lot of people) then we've paid a whopping $1 per hour each for that entertainment. If we'd spent those 200 man-hours at the movies, it would have been easily 5+ times as expensive, and less social besides. Plus, some of the movies probably would have sucked worse than playing Creep for the 4th time in one night. So you might have $200 more than me at this point, but I'm sure I got way more than $200 worth of entertainment out of Rock Band so far. And I really see no reason to replace my controllers, especially since all we know abot the new ones is that they're 'better'. I don't replace my car every 6 months when a 'better' one comes out, if these still work and the game is still fun, replacing them is entirely a matter of taste. |
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Samwise
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So you might have $200 more than me at this point, but I'm sure I got way more than $200 worth of entertainment out of Rock Band so far. Ah, but now I have that same $200 worth of entertainment ahead of me, and I didn't have to pay anything for it.  You just got it a little sooner is all. |
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Ingmar
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So you might have $200 more than me at this point, but I'm sure I got way more than $200 worth of entertainment out of Rock Band so far. Ah, but now I have that same $200 worth of entertainment ahead of me, and I didn't have to pay anything for it. You just got it a little sooner is all. Right, but you might get hit by a bus tomorrow, and then where would you be!  |
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Grand Design
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Hey, now. I paid $200 so I could listen to my niece and her friends play In Bloom on repeat for three days straight.
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Bokonon
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God I fucking hate when they use live versions of songs. That basically ruined the Jimmy Buffett pack. Ummm, these are from The Who's Live at Leeds album, considered one of the best live albums of all time. And the Buffet tracks were re-recorded for Rockband (presumably the original masters were lost or damaged or unsuitable), not performed 'live', per se. |
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WayAbvPar
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I realize that. However, when I go to sing a famous rock song, I want to play/sing the familiar studio version. If they had multiple versions, that would be fine too, but just the live tracks sucks.
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Bokonon
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Well, considering (in one particular example) that My Generation is damn hard to sing to begin with, what with all the stuttering, so I don't know how it will suck worse, vocals-wise. :)
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In the case of The Who pack, they (the record company I guess?) actually lost some of the masters for the original recordings, so I guess we were just going to be SOL on that front anyway. Maybe they'll turn up in 80 years like the original cut of Metropolis or something. Pretty amazing fuckup, though, priceless stuff just gone.
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Big Gulp
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In the case of The Who pack, they (the record company I guess?) actually lost some of the masters for the original recordings, so I guess we were just going to be SOL on that front anyway. Maybe they'll turn up in 80 years like the original cut of Metropolis or something. Pretty amazing fuckup, though, priceless stuff just gone.
I thought that was the same reason every Sabbath or Rush song in one of these games has been a cover. Or am I wrong in that? |
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Grand Design
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As far as I know, Rush has all of their masters and has re-released remasters of every album but the last two.
Oh, Tom Sawyer on Rock Band is an abomination.
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Big Gulp
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As far as I know, Rush has all of their masters and has re-released remasters of every album but the last two.
Oh, Tom Sawyer on Rock Band is an abomination.
Bizarre. Honestly, what is with some of these bands (or their labels) not releasing the master tracks? Hopefully with the kind of clout these music games now have they can cut through this nonsense. The music industry is a lot like the Palestinians; they never miss a chance to fuck themselves over through stupidity. |
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Bizarre. Honestly, what is with some of these bands (or their labels) not releasing the master tracks? Hopefully with the kind of clout these music games now have they can cut through this nonsense. Money. They couldn't reach an agreement with money or the artist just flat out didn't want to let them use the master (for one reason or another). The band's name and song is still out there even with a horrid cover version (albeit some of the covers were really damn close or even better than the originals, but that is a rare situation). |
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schild
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- Limited edition real Fenders that have been gutted and refixed with RB hardware will be available. From the new game informer. That's depressing btw. The rock band buttons are terrible. I'd expect Guitar Hero to do the same thing at this point though. Which I would buy on day 1. |
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Bokonon
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- Limited edition real Fenders that have been gutted and refixed with RB hardware will be available. From the new game informer. That's depressing btw. The rock band buttons are terrible. I'd expect Guitar Hero to do the same thing at this point though. Which I would buy on day 1. Their supposedly fixing the buttons. But then I prefer the Rockband fret buttons for the ease of sliding my hand during play, versus the the GH separate, discrete buttons. |
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Big Gulp
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Their supposedly fixing the buttons. But then I prefer the Rockband fret buttons for the ease of sliding my hand during play, versus the the GH separate, discrete buttons.
Same here. I also preferred the RB strummer, with it's non-clickiness, problem was that it had the lifespan of a Spinal Tap drummer. |
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Hehe. Exactly.
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
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schild
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Their supposedly fixing the buttons. But then I prefer the Rockband fret buttons for the ease of sliding my hand during play, versus the the GH separate, discrete buttons.
Same here. I also preferred the RB strummer, with it's non-clickiness, problem was that it had the lifespan of a Spinal Tap drummer. This makes both you and WAP absolutely insane. I can understand preferring a lot of things in Rock Band. But not this. It's absolutely ridiculous. |
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WayAbvPar
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How is there even any debate? The only thing the GH controller has going for it is you know damned well when you have strummed a note. If there was some sort of SILENT feedback on the RB controller, it would be perfect.
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
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How is there even any debate? The only thing the GH controller has going for it is you know damned well when you have strummed a note. If there was some sort of SILENT feedback on the RB controller, it would be perfect.
Do you play expert yet? Do you play it well? Because, let's be real - and I'm not saying things below expert aren't fun - but rather, everything below expert isn't playing the song. Too many notes are missing. The notecharts make almost no sense because they're the expert note charts with shit just removed left and right. The moment you get good at expert you wouldn't trade that clickyness away for anything. The rockband strummer - correct, provides no feedback - the down and upstrum had different throw lengths, and more importantly, it was a piece of shit. Though, even on expert in Rock Band, it's still not playing the song. It's more like hard in Guitar Hero. |
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Big Gulp
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Do you play expert yet?
I don't even aspire to playing Expert. Shit, I don't aspire to playing Hard. I can get through about 10 songs on hard, and you know what, it's not fun for me. Now granted, I'm different. I don't give two shits about mastering playing a fake plastic instrument. I'm here for the fun, and if that means I'm forever playing on medium then so be it. If I want a real challenge I'll finally learn how to actually play the old acoustic I have stashed away in my closet. |
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