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Reply #105 on: April 02, 2007, 11:48:26 PM

Tell me more about this.

You can use off the shelf 2.5" SATA's with the PS3 (cheaper too. For example, a 120GB 2.5 Seagate will cost $90. As opposed to Microsoft's pricing of $180).

As in "unscrew (bye warranty!), unplug, swap, plug, rescrew, looky here a much larger HDD and everything works just fine"?



Yeah, pretty much.

You'll want to stick with 5400 rpm though (apparently 7200 has caused problems).

Also, you'll want to back up any saved games and shit, of course. ;)

After that, the OS detects the new hard drive, asks if you want to format it, you click Yes, and voila.
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Reply #106 on: April 03, 2007, 02:01:36 AM

...does that even invalidate the warranty? It almost looks like if it suffered from 1st-gen Sony Hardware quality you could just swap the original HDD back in and no-one would be the wiser.
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Reply #107 on: April 03, 2007, 04:36:23 AM



(pic from PS3 manual)

Not sure about the warranty, but if the manual gives directions, and there aren't any warning labels on the hatch, then the rules might not be as punitive as it may seem at first. Just a guess though.
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Reply #108 on: April 03, 2007, 05:09:05 AM

Hmm, where is the OS installed then, if not on the HDD? Do they just have it on a chip?

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Reply #109 on: April 03, 2007, 05:22:37 AM

Hmm, where is the OS installed then, if not on the HDD? Do they just have it on a chip?
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Reply #110 on: April 03, 2007, 05:31:39 AM

If it doesn't void the warranty, this is certainly a nice move if you're doing something that is eating away at your disk space.

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Reply #111 on: April 03, 2007, 05:37:51 AM

Not sure about the warranty, but if the manual gives directions, and there aren't any warning labels on the hatch, then the rules might not be as punitive as it may seem at first. Just a guess though.
Basically if you screw up the install you may void your warranty. Otherwise you are good to go (bottom left paragraph):

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/11/ps3manual_pg1.jpg
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Reply #112 on: April 03, 2007, 05:58:05 AM

If saves and shit are stored on the HDD, how can you back them up for when you do a disk swap? Is it somehow possible to export your saves, even PS3 game saves, to some other device?

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Reply #113 on: April 03, 2007, 09:24:34 AM

I would assume you can transfer shit to a memory card but I have not tried yet.  Still have space on the disk so I'm not worried about that just now.  Here I use "memory card" as a catchall since the PS3 supports Memory Stick, CF and SD.  Also this may not cover certain things which developers don't want you to copy, such as Culdcept save files which I was unable to transfer to the PS3.  One day I will get around to putting a SD card in my PS3 and seeing if I can move things to it.

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Reply #114 on: April 03, 2007, 09:35:17 AM

I've moved stuff back and forth through memory cards (saved games work too).


Haven't tried any usb drives (iPods work though).
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Reply #115 on: April 03, 2007, 09:39:38 AM

Ah, forgot about the USB for some reason.  What did you move, PS3 saves, PS/PS2 memory cards?

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Reply #116 on: April 03, 2007, 09:56:47 AM

Game saves, photos, and music.
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Reply #117 on: April 09, 2007, 10:59:24 AM

They just announced the new features of the xbox live features to be launched this spring... included are a bunch of stuff I don't care about, but it did have these two gems:

# H.264 video support: Up to 15 Mbps, Baseline, Main, and High (up to level 4.1) Profiles with 2 channel AAC LC and Main Profiles.
# Added MPEG-4 Part 2 video support: Up to 8 Mbps, Simple Profile with 2 channel AAC LC and Main Profiles.

That's sort-of xbox media center-like streaming ability. Seeing as how I just bought a PS3, that's kind of annoying -- I've still got my hopes up for Linux PS3 to become my new xbmc... but with the new elite being HDMI, it seems like I may have picked the wrong console ;)

also..
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Reply #118 on: April 09, 2007, 01:22:50 PM

First of all, can't you connect an ordinary USB keyboard to the 360? If so, then why don't just do that instead of that misfit of a controller. If not, then why?
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Reply #119 on: April 09, 2007, 01:45:59 PM

They just announced the new features of the xbox live features to be launched this spring... included are a bunch of stuff I don't care about, but it did have these two gems:

# H.264 video support: Up to 15 Mbps, Baseline, Main, and High (up to level 4.1) Profiles with 2 channel AAC LC and Main Profiles.
# Added MPEG-4 Part 2 video support: Up to 8 Mbps, Simple Profile with 2 channel AAC LC and Main Profiles.

That's sort-of xbox media center-like streaming ability. Seeing as how I just bought a PS3, that's kind of annoying -- I've still got my hopes up for Linux PS3 to become my new xbmc... but with the new elite being HDMI, it seems like I may have picked the wrong console ;)

also..


That thing is fucking hideous. It looks like a Playskool toy got raped by Blackberry and gave birth to that monstrosity.

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Reply #120 on: April 09, 2007, 01:51:23 PM

That looks like my old sidekick 2 keyboard, and I could really thumb some shit out after a few months using it. I'd say close to 40-50 WPM.

Perfect for the 20-something bongloaders that'll be playing age of conan on X360.
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Reply #121 on: April 09, 2007, 02:13:02 PM

Erm, that image is a fake, guys....right?

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Reply #122 on: April 09, 2007, 02:20:11 PM

Neg. And it's awesome.
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Reply #123 on: April 09, 2007, 02:48:18 PM

It looks like a damn abomination to me. Good luck "typing" and playing at the same time.

Though I suppose it's better than nothing.

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Reply #124 on: April 09, 2007, 03:22:42 PM

Yea, it looks a tad bulky and seems to sit a tad high relative to the rest of the controller, but anything that keeps me from ever having to use the on-screen keyboard ever again is worth it's weight in gold.  If some future games let you map additional functions and/or macros to the keys, I wouldn't mind either.  ;)

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Reply #125 on: April 09, 2007, 03:24:40 PM

My thin fingers will be an advantage.  Yay.

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Reply #126 on: April 09, 2007, 03:25:56 PM

Going to be used for 3 things.

1. Talking in an MMOG.
2. Typing names for games.
3. Instant messaging over MSN (coming May 7th to the 360).

So uh, what's the problem? I think it's an elegant solution to a common problem.

Edit: Oooooh, macro assignment would be hot - or even better - profile assignment for actually keymaps.
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Reply #127 on: April 09, 2007, 03:49:03 PM

The only common problem is trying to PC-ify consoles. Kludging game versions together to be as similar as possible for each platform does a disservice to all users. Let me type and use actual menus and such on a PC, and let me play action-y games on a console.

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Reply #128 on: April 09, 2007, 05:07:47 PM

Again, hasn't this problem already been solved a couple of decades ago, you know, the keyboard?
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Reply #129 on: April 09, 2007, 05:19:55 PM

Using the BT Apple Keyboard/Mouse myself (on PS3 I mean). Convenient and hassle free enough for me. Not much use for it yet though, I suppose.
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Reply #130 on: April 10, 2007, 06:48:24 AM

 Rofl Waffle



Yeah. Totally awesome.

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Reply #131 on: April 12, 2007, 06:03:52 AM

I really don't understand this.  See, I have a handy thing called a "microphone", and this device lets me leave recordings of my own voice to people I'd like to leave messages to.  So tell me how is this frankenberry device a step up from just sending someone a voicemail?  Shit, that's the main reason I like Live, because I can actually talk to the people I'm playing with and be sure that they can in turn talk back to me.
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Reply #132 on: April 12, 2007, 07:39:58 AM

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Reply #133 on: April 12, 2007, 07:55:39 AM

At the risk of duplicating Big Gulp's sound reasoning...

1. Talking in an MMOG.
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So uh, what's the problem? I think it's an elegant solution to a common problem.

The problem is that it is a step away from voice.  This is actually interesting because it is a PCification of console games and it is sure to irritate the Bizzaro-Skys around here; think of it as the reverse of "the interface in Oblivion looks like the JumpStart Baby UI" rage.  A miniature keyboard seems less elegant than voice, to me.  And, put bluntly, why not use voice for MOG communication?  If you're going to have your 360 on the net and are spending that change anyway, why would you not have a mic?  But, hey, if you're using thumbsticks to play a FPS then I guess you are not a terribly picky gamer, so whatever.

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Reply #134 on: April 12, 2007, 08:23:55 AM

Nearly everything multiplayer on the 360 has voice. I can't say I'd honestly talk to most of the people I'd encounter in an MMOG though.
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Reply #135 on: April 12, 2007, 08:56:06 AM

Agreed.

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Reply #136 on: April 12, 2007, 08:58:47 AM

If they plan on implementing voice chat for Age of Conan, they need to bind the 'Mute Player' button to like, the A button. Or one of the triggers.

Regardless - the thumb board would actually be pretty sweet for a console MMO, if it didn't have a 'targeting' system that was heavily mouse based. Swing your swords around, hit stuff.


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Reply #137 on: April 12, 2007, 10:15:57 AM

As I have yet to enter in to the current gen of consoles, but it appears I will have to get my Bioware RPG fix, I thought I'd throw out a question.

With the Xbox live stuff - I assume you plug your network cable right in to it. Is there any support or options for wireless?, as that's the way I am seriously leaning for my new place.

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Reply #138 on: April 12, 2007, 10:38:29 AM

As I have yet to enter in to the current gen of consoles, but it appears I will have to get my Bioware RPG fix, I thought I'd throw out a question.

With the Xbox live stuff - I assume you plug your network cable right in to it. Is there any support or options for wireless?, as that's the way I am seriously leaning for my new place.

There's a wireless adapter that'll set you back $90 or so.

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Reply #139 on: April 12, 2007, 10:42:21 AM

Nearly everything multiplayer on the 360 has voice. I can't say I'd honestly talk to most of the people I'd encounter in an MMOG though.

"my mic's broken."

Works wonders in current MMOs.  Dunno if I'd be able to pull that stunt on a 360 MMO.

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