EvE is a great game but do you not get tired of it?

[Mitrediabolo]

Ok let me get this point across first. EvE Online is a great game the player interaction, player market is great.

But do you not get bored of it? Flying around waiting for ages camping gates or w/e you lose your ship then basically spend about 10 minutes re-buying your ship and its stuff. POS warfare the most boring shit in the whole game its a nice idea but only if it was more fun.
Fleet battles basically boring target shoot thats it you get targetted you are dead basically unless you can get out.

Do you find a aspect of EvE boring? do you agree with the above?

Even though it is a good game it is boring if you think about it.

There are alternatives to the above like piracy, scamming but how long can those keep you enjoying the game.

[Soln]

Eve needs organization.  You need to be in a corp, or be personally organized enough to make your own fun (e.g. scamming and piracy).  It's a brilliant game, but it's too demanding for me and I had to break up with it.

[Yoru]

Ok let me get this point across first. EvE Online is a great game the player interaction, player market is great.

But do you not get bored of it? Flying around waiting for ages camping gates or w/e you lose your ship then basically spend about 10 minutes re-buying your ship and its stuff. POS warfare the most boring shit in the whole game its a nice idea but only if it was more fun.
Fleet battles basically boring target shoot thats it you get targetted you are dead basically unless you can get out.

Do you find a aspect of EvE boring? do you agree with the above?

Even though it is a good game it is boring if you think about it.

There are alternatives to the above like piracy, scamming but how long can those keep you enjoying the game.

Highly ironic coming from someone who plays CoX, which arguably has far less variety than Eve. Anyway...

Do I get bored of Eve? Yes, sometimes. So I take a break of a month or two, only logging in long enough to say "hi" and train up my skills. Then something new piques my interest, or I decide to look into yet another aspect of it, or some event gets me fired up, and I'm back again.

The game you describe - the high-end 0.0 alliance PVP - I don't like all that much. So, and I know this is going to be a shocker, I don't do it. Eve is not a linear-progression game. There's a dozen axes you can "progress" on, if you're an achievement grinder. There's thousands of people on the server, if you're a socializer.

So I wander around and do whatever suits my fancy at the time. For a little while, I was hardcore into trading. I made about 300m off it, then took my profits and helped the corp start up a POS (plowed the money into a Mackinaw, ice skills, etc.), which I continue to help operate. Then I worked on Exploration (the system) a bit, just enough to get a taste for it and to know what I'd need to do it with more efficacy. Then I ran some L3 missions for a few days, just because I felt like shooting missiles at things.

The reason Eve is so sticky, for me, is that I can jump from one thing to another and then again to yet another with absolutely no penalty. My character is a horrible mongrel - the epitome of Jack Of All Trades - but it means I can do whatever the hell I want.

So, basically, if fleet warfare is boring you? Go do something else. Eve is a game for those who like to make their own fun. If you want someone to make your fun for you, I hear that Burning Crusade just got released.

[WayAbvPar]

I am with Yoru- sounds like we play EVE in much the same way. The past week I have been playing a lot of M:TW, so my EVE time has suffered. The beauty of it is when I go back, I will have a couple of new skill levels, my market buy orders will be filled, and I can pick up and play some more. It is the ultimate system for casual players IMHO.

[Raging Turtle]

Yeah, it gets boring.  Any game does. 

The specific things you talk about - fleet battles and POS management - are mostly an 0.0 thing, and they bore the hell out of me.  Endlessly ratting all day to make isk?  Endless hauler runs to keep the POS fueled?  Blah.  Some people love 0.0, but I stick to empire.  I trade and/or build things with one character to make money, and my other character is in a mercenary corporation to have some pew pew fun. 

One of the things I like best about Eve is that you can take a month or two off and your character will be better than when you left, thanks to offline skill training (even when unsubscribed).  Also, if you're successful enough, the game becomes 'free' in a sense, because you can pay for your subscription by buying game time cards with ISK. 

[Yoru]

Yup. To echo the above, the thing I really love is that I can walk away and come back with new toys to play with.

[dwindlehop]

Flying around waiting for ages camping gates or w/e you lose your ship then basically spend about 10 minutes re-buying your ship and its stuff.

This is demonstrably untrue. I keep a half dozen ships in my hangar. A selection of T1 frigates, a pile of Ruptures, and one Cyclone are in there at the moment. From time to time I fly a Stabber, too. When I lose a ship I hop into another ship I've already fitted out and go back out there. The time to refit is only a penalty in Eve if you sink all your isk into one ship fitting. Experienced PvPers buy modules in stacks of dozens. Good corps help you refit quickly, too.

also, what Yoru said. When I get bored of Eve, I set a skill to train for a week or two and go play something else. Or I change what I do when I log in.

[Kail]

Even though it is a good game it is boring if you think about it.

Most games are after a while.  It's only with MMOs that devs are driven to keep people playing (somehow) after they get bored.

One of the reasons I like EVE (aside from what others have mentioned) is that you can tailor the amount of catassing you want to do in it.  If you want to log on for an hour and shoot rats or something, you can.  If you want to spend sixteen hours a day doing that, you can, but yeah, it's probably going to be boring.  I currently have no money, and I could remedy this by working my ass off running missions, or I could decipher whatever fucking magic spell Trouble used to make more money than I've ever seen in less than a quarter the time I've been playing, but I don't have the time to do that.  So instead, I just fit a mining laser to my Bestower, run out to my local asteroid belt, lock on to some Veldspar or Scordite, and switch the turret on.  Then I minimize and do whatever RL work I need to do.  I come back a few hours later, and I've got a full cargo hold.  Refine, sell, and repeat that.  And every few days I get a nice new ability or two, on top of that.

Yeah, that's not exactly the most thrilling game experience, but I don't want to grind out missions or something so much that I burn myself out on it.  Right now, when I feel like doing a mission, I'll do a mission.  If I want to hunt rats, I'll do that.  If I want to mine, I'll do that (badly, though).  There's a bunch of different things I can do.  I'm still limited by my miniscule bank account, but even as a pauper, I feel like I have more options open to me than I ever did in WoW.

Plus, just being a part of the world is interesting to me.  EVE is a game in which stuff happens, and that's novel for me, who hasn't had much experience in massively multiplayer PvP games before.  Tuning in to EVE Radio, reading about the flap with the ISS, sharing the world with pirates and bounty hunters and traders and manufacturers, it's all very neat to me.

[Mitrediabolo]

I actually stopped plaing CoX a while ago. Now that is a shit game.

I stopped playing EvE about 2 months ago and yes i was in the alliance side of things i was in SMASH fighting against D2 and E-R and Co.
It was the most boring time in my life.
I have done my fair share of pirateing also i got bored of it. Scamming was also fun but was a bit of a long process.

Maybe i am into faster paced games?

To me the only place to be in EvE is 0.0 because that is where the best PvP is.



Oh i just read some of the other posts in the section didnt realise you guys started up your own corp. Sorry, i didnt mean to come on here and start to talk bad about EvE online i just remebered this to be a discussion forum.
Guys, do not getting into POS warfare do not let anyone ask you to put a POS up you will kill yourself.

[Raging Turtle]

No worries.  There's no one game for everyone. 

[Krakrok]

The trick is to leave the game about the time it's no longer fun so you don't turn into a vitriolic masochist.

[Yegolev]

I don't feel bad about just logging off when I get tired of mining ice.  I also don't feel bad about just not logging in for a long time, either.  I can do other things, both in-game and out.  Recently started a new game of Culdcept, that's fun.

[Rasix]

I love the concept of EVE. I loved EVE's politics. I loved being in a corp that made a serious stab at being in 0.0 despite it being completely over their heads.  Heck, just being a corp filled with decent folks was nice. I liked the fact that I could gain power while not playing, play as virtually any profession I wanted, and play in just about any time frame I wanted and get something done.  I LIEK MISSLS.

Problem is, I just don't find any one specific activity in EVE enjoyable for an extended period of time and I'm a bit of a loner. Most 0.0 activities I found boring.  Combined with my one MMO at a time policy and a recurring itch to play WoW... EVE just never completely works for me.

But, that's just me. I do like walking away from a MMO and still considering a good game worthy of my money instead of walking away a bitter detractor.

[Slayerik]

I actually stopped plaing CoX a while ago. Now that is a shit game.

I stopped playing EvE about 2 months ago and yes i was in the alliance side of things i was in SMASH fighting against D2 and E-R and Co.
It was the most boring time in my life.
I have done my fair share of pirateing also i got bored of it. Scamming was also fun but was a bit of a long process.

Maybe i am into faster paced games?

To me the only place to be in EvE is 0.0 because that is where the best PvP is.



Oh i just read some of the other posts in the section didnt realise you guys started up your own corp. Sorry, i didnt mean to come on here and start to talk bad about EvE online i just remebered this to be a discussion forum.
Guys, do not getting into POS warfare do not let anyone ask you to put a POS up you will kill yourself.

You want fun? Get a small group and go try to gank people in goon space. The noob/skilled player ratio there is like 5:1 - but they eventually bring mad heat and its damn scary having like 30 guys on your ass. This is my new pasttime. There is a dead end sector with some curse alliance guys that actually try to operate using local. Not your best way to defend! It can be scary getting out of there too, they have been putting up bubbles on us more often and caught us last trip we made. Well, that was after I logged my mega off. Other than that I just rat/watch TV/hang out with my kids. Do occasional ice mining op for the corp.

[Fordel]

My issue with EVE is the gameplay itself. I really do have more fun with EVE reading about it then actually playing it. Even at EVE's most action packed, I get this sense of total detachment from my ship, like I'm merely playing the game in proxy... it would be like playing a warlock/hunter in WoW, but only playing through the pet bar and not doing anything through the character. Combine that with the way fights are more often then not decided before they even start. Ever get into that kind of brawl, where you know you are going to lose, you can't run, you can't fight effectively but yet the other guy is only *just* barely breaking your tank? That sense of the inevitable + the detachment from the combat itself just turns me off.

Isn't my cup of tea and all that.

[Slayerik]

My issue with EVE is the gameplay itself. I really do have more fun with EVE reading about it then actually playing it. Even at EVE's most action packed, I get this sense of total detachment from my ship, like I'm merely playing the game in proxy... it would be like playing a warlock/hunter in WoW, but only playing through the pet bar and not doing anything through the character. Combine that with the way fights are more often then not decided before they even start. Ever get into that kind of brawl, where you know you are going to lose, you can't run, you can't fight effectively but yet the other guy is only *just* barely breaking your tank? That sense of the inevitable + the detachment from the combat itself just turns me off.

Isn't my cup of tea and all that.

Kinda like running into a warlock in WoW? ;)

[Sparky]

Do you find a aspect of EvE boring? do you agree with the above?

Yeah, gatecamps are boring as shit and POS wars are atrocious.  Basically little of EVE's "endgame" interests me (or is well designed but that's another thread).  Personally I keep EVE interesting by continually setting myself goals; make a billion, pimp out my carrier, add some ship to my BPO collection or whatever really.  That combined with occasionally long breaks keeps the game fun.  The skill system helps there, take a month or two off and you'll come back to a new toy.

[Fordel]

Kinda like running into a warlock in WoW? ;)

At least a lock will drop me in 30 seconds or less. Those fights where your scrammed, your webbed, and your ECM'd to shit and a handbasket BUT your tank is still up and solid... 10 minutes later they break the midway point of your armor... ugh.


I guess that's why we have a self destruct button :p

[Slayerik]

By then help should have arrived :)