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Reply #39025 on: October 14, 2019, 11:14:32 PM

For you Lagavulin fans out there the Lagavulin Offerman Edition will supposedly be available soon:
At 11 years old I would hope it is cheaper than the regular Lagavulin.
It's not going to be cause it's a limited edition. Kind of like how the 12 year old special releases are much more expensive than the 16 year old even though they are younger. Though I wouldn't expect the Offerman Edition to be quite that expensive.

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Reply #39026 on: October 15, 2019, 04:28:13 PM

I loved Lagavulin but the price has become so crazy that I won't buy it any more. If I'm over at some dude's place where he has it, I'll suck it down (appropriately to the time duration of my presence there), but I'm not buying.
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Reply #39027 on: October 15, 2019, 04:36:29 PM

For you Lagavulin fans out there the Lagavulin Offerman Edition will supposedly be available soon:

At 11 years old I would hope it is cheaper than the regular Lagavulin.

I feel I can just about guarantee that it will cost more than the 16 year.   awesome, for real  "Special edition" whiskies are usually overpriced as hell.  

Still, good for him.  Also, new bucket list item for me.

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Reply #39028 on: October 15, 2019, 06:17:06 PM

I loved Lagavulin but the price has become so crazy that I won't buy it any more. If I'm over at some dude's place where he has it, I'll suck it down (appropriately to the time duration of my presence there), but I'm not buying.
Drive across the river to Cherry Hill and buy it from Total Wine for $70.00.
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Reply #39029 on: October 15, 2019, 09:14:18 PM

I loved Lagavulin but the price has become so crazy that I won't buy it any more. If I'm over at some dude's place where he has it, I'll suck it down (appropriately to the time duration of my presence there), but I'm not buying.
Drive across the river to Cherry Hill and buy it from Total Wine for $70.00.


Nothing beats the costco price.  It's the one thing I always grab a bottle of when I go back to CA for a visit, priced under $60.  My Texas go to is Auchentoshan 3 wood at Total Wine for $58.
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Reply #39030 on: October 16, 2019, 05:00:55 AM

I think I'd rather pay more than ever go to Cherry Hill.
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Reply #39031 on: October 16, 2019, 05:52:13 AM

I loved Lagavulin but the price has become so crazy that I won't buy it any more. If I'm over at some dude's place where he has it, I'll suck it down (appropriately to the time duration of my presence there), but I'm not buying.


I...uh...have bad news.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/felipeschrieberg/2019/10/03/trump-administration-slaps-25-tariff-on-single-malt-scotch-whisky-imports/

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Reply #39032 on: October 16, 2019, 06:36:25 AM

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Reply #39033 on: October 16, 2019, 07:09:42 AM

Last time I saw it at the Total Wine in Delaware it was $85...
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Reply #39034 on: October 16, 2019, 09:18:11 AM

It’s not a problem, everyone knows by now that the Scots will pay for those tariffs, that’s how they work.  More money and whiskey in American pockets!

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Reply #39035 on: October 16, 2019, 12:27:45 PM

The city guys cut my big maple today, pretty bummed because it shaded my huge driveway and front lawn. I loved that tree! But...it was a 3-way split crotch and hadda go.

Turns out my neighbor sold his splitter without running it by me (I'd have bought it), so I need to either find a decent one cheap or rent one this weekend.

Then, looking at the pile, I snag a bunch of straights and start splitting before the rain hit. I still feel I missed my calling as a hermit in the north Canadian woods. The old lady is going to be pissed, even though I didn't split much (maybe 1/4 a face cord, nothing really), but it splits so much easier when it's fresh. Not sure if I mentioned I rolled my ankle a month ago riding shopping carts in the parking lot,  DRILLING AND MANLINESS The Fiskars splitting axe continues to run through wood like hot butter (or whatever), 11 years later! Hell, I'm in worse shape than my axes.

Also, squirrels are all my damned honeycrisps this year.
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Reply #39036 on: October 16, 2019, 12:38:59 PM

Also, squirrels are all my damned honeycrisps this year.

As my wife would say in her highbrow, apple snobby voice, "good, honeycrisps are only good for feeding livestock anyway."

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Reply #39037 on: October 16, 2019, 12:41:20 PM

Just what the holy hell is wrong with your wife?

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Reply #39038 on: October 16, 2019, 12:49:08 PM

Also, squirrels are all my damned honeycrisps this year.

As my wife would say in her highbrow, apple snobby voice, "good, honeycrisps are only good for feeding livestock anyway."


They're perfect fruits to eat when reading Black Company.

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Reply #39039 on: October 16, 2019, 01:03:54 PM

I'm naming the two squirrels who eat the apples One-Eye and Goblin.
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Reply #39040 on: October 16, 2019, 01:52:44 PM

Just what the holy hell is wrong with your wife?

She is a bit of an apple snob. She has kept a catalog of all the apple varieties she has tried - I think she is up to 140 now. Strangely, he fav type is the golden russet or any hybrid of it.

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Reply #39041 on: October 16, 2019, 02:05:43 PM

Just what the holy hell is wrong with your wife?

She is a bit of an apple snob. She has kept a catalog of all the apple varieties she has tried - I think she is up to 140 now. Strangely, he fav type is the golden russet or any hybrid of it.

Proof there's no accounting for taste, or lack thereof.

 why so serious?

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Reply #39042 on: October 16, 2019, 02:38:12 PM

How did apples end up in the scotch thread!
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Reply #39043 on: October 16, 2019, 05:06:06 PM

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Reply #39044 on: October 17, 2019, 04:01:05 PM

$94 at the PA state stores, by the way, as of today. At that point, I almost feel it's worth lapping it and buying the ultra huge bottle of Macallan.

I remember buying both from Oddbins in London back in the day and not feeling utterly poor afterwards.
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Reply #39045 on: October 17, 2019, 09:55:01 PM

Just ducked in here and read the whisky posts. Some opinions from a Scottish-Australian who has spent time on Islay:

- Lagavulin is great, but have you tried...
- Ardbeg 10-year-old, or Ardbeg Uigeadail if you can find it.
- Any of the whiskies by Bruichladdich and Port Charlotte (same company makes both) - these are my personal favourites. About 20 years ago, some locals bought out a dormant distillery on the other side of Islay, poached the best whisky maker on the island and told him to make what he had always wanted to make. They began producing mindblowing new expressions, specialising in both unpeated (Bruichladdich) and heavily peated (Port Charlotte and Octomore) whiskies. They're all amazing.
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Reply #39046 on: October 18, 2019, 03:51:30 PM

Ardbeg 10 year is my go to scotch.  It's absurdly peaty and on the lower end of the price scale for good scotch so it's easier to drink regularly.  Definitely recommended if you like Islay malts like Lagavulin.

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Reply #39047 on: October 18, 2019, 04:50:11 PM

I go for the Laphroaig, though I do need to get around to tasting more....
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Reply #39048 on: October 18, 2019, 11:59:51 PM

Just ducked in here and read the whisky posts. Some opinions from a Scottish-Australian who has spent time on Islay:

- Lagavulin is great, but have you tried...
- Ardbeg 10-year-old, or Ardbeg Uigeadail if you can find it.
Ardbeg 10 year old was actually the first heavily peated whisky in my collection. I picked that over the Laphroaig 10, which I still haven't tried yet, cause some of the aroma descriptions of the Laphroaig scared me away. Lagavulin 16 was the 2nd and I just got the Ardbeg Uigeadail because of the incoming tariffs (thanks Obama!). At the moment I like the 10 more than the Uigeadail -- I'm not liking the combination of heavy peat with the typical sherry cask aromas and tastes.

Ardbeg 10 is definitely a good one to try at a good bar if you want to know what peated whiskies are about. I don't how the PPM levels of the Uigeadail compares to the 10 but it definitely doesn't smell or taste as smoky as the 10 presumably because of all the spiciness and sweetness from the sherry casks, and neither does the Lagavulin 16 presumably cause of the extra aging.

If you want to dip your toes into the world of peated whiskies rather than jumping into the deep end head first with the Ardbeg 10, Highland Park 12 year old is a good one to try. That one is lightly peated so it only has a hint of smoke.

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- Any of the whiskies by Bruichladdich and Port Charlotte (same company makes both) - these are my personal favourites. About 20 years ago, some locals bought out a dormant distillery on the other side of Islay, poached the best whisky maker on the island and told him to make what he had always wanted to make. They began producing mindblowing new expressions, specialising in both unpeated (Bruichladdich) and heavily peated (Port Charlotte and Octomore) whiskies. They're all amazing.
I haven't tried any of those but the Octomore always struck me peat for peat's sake. Like those hot sauce makers that advertise how million Scovilles their sauces have -- after a certain point there's no flavor left and it's just ridiculous amounts of heat.
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Reply #39049 on: October 19, 2019, 02:45:59 PM

So the 20 years of library work (and possibly turning 50 next year) are starting to catch up. Split a few cord of maple today from rounds, I know my back is going to kill me tomorrow. The bigger rounds were almost 3ft in diameter. Splitting wasn't bad, but maneuvering them to the splitter was torture! And I'm trying to heal my sprained ankle, so...

I'd say getting old sucks, but pain means I'm alive. Most of my childhood friends feel no pain. So yeah. Pain good.

And at least not too old to actually get it split, though it's the last time I'l solo that dungeon!

edit: the city took down my triple-split-crotch maple. It's like getting 3 full size 60ft trees...for free!
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Reply #39050 on: October 20, 2019, 06:50:30 PM

the Laphroaig 10, which I still haven't tried yet, cause some of the aroma descriptions of the Laphroaig scared me away.

When he left university, my father was offered the management of two barley farms next to the Laphroaig distillery. He visited with my mum and they turned down the offer because she didn't like the farm houses. But Laphroaig was always his whisky until recently -- he's gone off it now.

Laphroaig, Lagavulin and Ardbeg are all located 1 mile apart on a road out of the town of Port Ellen. I walked it in 2012. You are given a free dram at each distillery, so I felt increasingly good :) Laphroaig was a very commercial operation and I thought the whisky was just fine.

At Lagavulin, they had a busload of Japanese businessmen to look after, so they sent me to wait in a tasting room at the back, and forgot about me. I could have drunk the place dry.



A staff member found me by accident and gave me a dram. I agree with a former co-worker that Lagavulin is "thinking whisky". I sat there and thought good thoughts, then went to Ardbeg.

I wasn't expecting much because I was a Lagavulin fan, but the Ardbeg 10-year-old was actually my favourite of the three. I agree with you that it's better than the Uigeadail, but everyone else seems to like that so I threw it into my post.

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I haven't tried any of those but the Octomore always struck me peat for peat's sake. Like those hot sauce makers that advertise how million Scovilles their sauces have -- after a certain point there's no flavor left and it's just ridiculous amounts of heat.

I bought the Octomore 7.2 at the airport a few years ago, when arriving home in Sydney. It is a ridiculous thing to buy, but it's also a good whisky. I wouldn't recommend buying it as standard whiskys are more enjoyable, but Octomore's taste is looooooooooong rather than spicy... a sip of that and your mouth is going on a journey for a while. Reminds me I've been saving the last bit to give to my dad.
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Reply #39051 on: October 20, 2019, 08:04:57 PM

I repeat my contention that all refined liquor tastes like mixtures of paint thinner and ass sweat, and every opinion to the contrary is just people convincing themselves that spending $50-1000 for artisanal ass sweat from the finest foreign bums was a brilliant plan.

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Reply #39052 on: October 20, 2019, 08:47:51 PM

That's kind of true except that the paint thinner is also aged in wood barrels which mellows/filters out some of that stuff and also adds their own flavors. Most of the aroma and taste of whisk(e)y actual comes from the barrels used rather that the distilled spirit itself. Also some whisk(e)ies, like most Irish whiskey, are triple distilled rather than double distilled so fewer of the paint thinner and ass sweat flavors make it into the final product.
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Reply #39053 on: October 20, 2019, 09:27:37 PM

I never understood people’s fascination with scotch.

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Reply #39054 on: October 20, 2019, 10:09:39 PM

I never understood people’s fascination with scotch.

Same.  I occasionally have some that I think is pretty good (like a bottle of Lagavulin), but I almost always prefer rum, even the cheap shit.

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Reply #39055 on: October 21, 2019, 09:16:57 AM

So damned tired of stuff breaking for no reason. Having had a week off where all I had to work on were small engines, which don't require 3rd party vendors and accounts and logins and the whole pile of garbage, was so goddamned nice. I'm normally really good at troubleshooting and fixing things, but these days it seems like most of my problems end up with me having to call some call center to have some random goon try to navigate their script and not solve my issue.

Today's winner is accessing my volume licensing center for Microsoft stuff. Not recognizing my work email as a work account. I linked it years ago to my microsoft account (which is my work email), but now it suddenly doesn't work. Can log in as my microsoft account, but get the error that it can't be used for VLC and a message that it's been linked to a work account. Work account won't log in and a password reset says there is no work account. So it's linked to an account that doesn't exist and I can't see how to fix it at either end.

So I've wasted a couple hours trying to figure out how to unfuck this moronic garbage. I'm almost tempted to change my mind about ditching macs, but I remember their nonsense tends to be worse in the long run.
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Reply #39056 on: October 21, 2019, 10:12:44 AM

I repeat my contention that all refined liquor tastes like mixtures of paint thinner and ass sweat, and every opinion to the contrary is just people convincing themselves that spending $50-1000 for artisanal ass sweat from the finest foreign bums was a brilliant plan.

--Dave

Well you've got to admit that it has been a good business plan to take advantage of that..

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Reply #39057 on: October 21, 2019, 11:29:47 AM

Dave drinking ass sweat and paint thinner does explain a lot, though.
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Reply #39058 on: October 21, 2019, 08:11:03 PM

One thing to know to enjoy Scotch whisky: Scots generally add water (to a level that suits your taste). When you have it at the right amount, it brings out the flavour and enhances the experience.

You add the water slowly at a trickle, not fast like out of a tap. Somebody on Islay showed me how to test whether you've done it right, by tilting the glass, righting it, and looking at how the whisky clings to the side in an oily way. I don't really understand that technique, as it always seems to behave that way no matter how much I fuck it up.

To take it to an authentic extreme, you can actually buy canned water from the Scottish highlands to use with your whisky. Drinking it on the rocks (with ice) is supposed to be for blended whiskies only, not single malts.

BTW everything here has been about single malts. A blended whisky I really like is Monkey Shoulder. Quite affordable, hopefully even with 25% tax added.
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Reply #39059 on: October 21, 2019, 08:12:57 PM

People know about the water thing.

Doesn't mean that scotch still isn't terrible.

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