Useless Conversation

[Nebu]

... and just in time for Halloween!

[Samwise]

 

[ghost]

Well, I am recovering from a kidney stone (my second in a year), so I'm basically dead.

[Signe]

A kidney stone killed you?  Was it lodged in your brain or something?   

[Cyrrex]

Well, I am recovering from a kidney stone (my second in a year), so I'm basically dead.

Just reading that sentence causes half the muscles in my body to contract uncomfortably.  Ouch.

[Nebu]

Well, I am recovering from a kidney stone (my second in a year), so I'm basically dead.

On the bright side, you are now keenly aware of the size of your urethra.

[WayAbvPar]

Well, I am recovering from a kidney stone (my second in a year), so I'm basically dead.

On the bright side, you are now keenly aware of the size of your urethra.

There are some things I am perfectly comfortable not knowing. This is pretty high up on that list.

[ghost]

Well, I am recovering from a kidney stone (my second in a year), so I'm basically dead.

On the bright side, you are now keenly aware of the size of your urethra.

Which is too fucking small.   

Also, Percocet makes me barf.  Another little bit of knowledge I'd love to have not known. 

[Signe]

The largest kidney stone ever weighs 2.48 lbs.

[Lantyssa]

Are you sure that's not a fossilized kidney?

[Trippy]

Nope.

[Ard]

Yeah, don't forget that people used to routinely die from kidney stones they couldn't pass in the past.  This is like the one thing I really truly fear getting, almost more than cancer.  Hope you're feeling better ghost 

[Ironwood]

Actually, reading the Stephenson Kidney scene makes me never, ever, ever forget that fact.

Thanks.

[MahrinSkel]

Sir, we believe you are going to give birth to an ostrich. Or a dinosaur. Maybe an alien, we don't fucking know.

[Ironwood]

Naw.  Naw, man, Naw.

No Danger.


 

[ghost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZj7H8sfkR0

Probably pretty true to old school.  It's turrible.

[HaemishM]

Oh you had to go and remind me of that scene.

[ghost]

I'm so pissed that they ended that show prematurely.  Sure, it was going somewhere less interesting, but they could have at least given it a Serenity type ending. 

[Sky]

Didn't even have to click to know what that video was.

We should probably switch the topic to apples. Ever pass an apple through your penis?

[ghost]

Anything bigger than about 4-5 mm feels like an apple. 

[Miasma]

I had one about ten years ago and remember begging God to kill me in between blacking out from the pain.  People assume it's the pain from it passing but the real pain is from the pressure in the kidney when it can't move the water building up in it.  The pain of the damn thing finally exiting is like a blissful wonderful event by comparison.

I was really bad about drinking enough water back then but ever since I make sure to drink plenty of fluids, I keep a pitcher of water on my desk at work.  Haven't had a third one since.  The second one was a surprise a month or so after the first (after I started drinking a lot of water), just had a moment of pain and heard a loud ping as it passed and hit the porcelain...

[Mandella]

I was really bad about drinking enough water back then but ever since I make sure to drink plenty of fluids, I keep a pitcher of water on my desk at work.  Haven't had a third one since.  The second one was a surprise a month or so after the first (after I started drinking a lot of water), just had a moment of pain and heard a loud ping as it passed and hit the porcelain...

I've had a doctor mention to me that nothing gets the patient's long term attention like a kidney stone. Heart attack? Yeah they'll follow a better diet for a few months, then back to the burgers. But a kidney stone? Soda might cause it? Never drink a soda again. More water might prevent it? Never out of reach of a bottle. Need to sacrifice a goat every full moon? Right, would that be the apex of the full moon, or would the day before and after be all right? Do I have to be *on* the moon? I could probably swing that...

Okay, before someone points it out, I am being a bit hyperbolic. But only a bit. I didn't drink any carbonated beverages for about a year, and even now I might only have the occasional coke with a meal. Definitely don't use it to rehydrate -- that's water's job.

And goats are pretty cheap in rural America.

[Strazos]

I guess I'm pretty prone to kidney stones - I've had 3 or four in my life. First required hospitalization for observation. I think I just dealt with the second and fourth.

The third required orthoscopic surgery, which was less than fun.

I still, for the life of me, cannot seem to keep myself from being almost constantly dehydrated - I seem to be pretty prone to it. I also get focused on things for hours at a time and simply don't drink anything...whoops.

[RhyssaFireheart]

I guess I'm pretty prone to kidney stones - I've had 3 or four in my life. First required hospitalization for observation. I think I just dealt with the second and fourth.

The third required orthoscopic surgery, which was less than fun.

I still, for the life of me, cannot seem to keep myself from being almost constantly dehydrated - I seem to be pretty prone to it. I also get focused on things for hours at a time and simply don't drink anything...whoops.

This is me.  I can go an entire day at work, get home and before bed, realize I've not had anything to drink other than my morning shake, which has a bare amount of juice in it for mixing purposes.  I just get focused on stuff and forget. 

With all this talk about kidney stones, I guess I'm lucky I haven't had one, or are women not prone to getting them?

[Morat20]

Which is too fucking small.   

Also, Percocet makes me barf.  Another little bit of knowledge I'd love to have not known. 

Tell everyone you know who might end up in the ER with you, take home after surgery (minor or major) or might otherwise deal with doctors while you're too busy focusing on how unpleasant something is. And let your doctor's know up front if it's scheduled.

There's plenty of meds that'll reduce nausea from painkillers (my wife uses phenergan -- Vicodin, percocet, and pretty much everything stronger than codeine sets her off). It's just normally when you need them, you don't think to ask for them. Because of the pain.

I've learned one of my jobs as spouse is to tell the doctor, when she's writing out scripts and my wife is in recovery, "Oh, can you add phengran or another anti-nausea med? The Vicodin you just prescribed is gonna make her puke otherwise".

It really makes everything more pleasant. She doesn't feel the pain and I don't have to clean up vomit.

[WayAbvPar]

But if you neglect to mention it, then she doesn't take the Vicodin and you can have it for yourself!  

[Merusk]

I guess I'm pretty prone to kidney stones - I've had 3 or four in my life. First required hospitalization for observation. I think I just dealt with the second and fourth.

The third required orthoscopic surgery, which was less than fun.

I still, for the life of me, cannot seem to keep myself from being almost constantly dehydrated - I seem to be pretty prone to it. I also get focused on things for hours at a time and simply don't drink anything...whoops.

This is me.  I can go an entire day at work, get home and before bed, realize I've not had anything to drink other than my morning shake, which has a bare amount of juice in it for mixing purposes.  I just get focused on stuff and forget. 

With all this talk about kidney stones, I guess I'm lucky I haven't had one, or are women not prone to getting them?

Women can get them, they just generally drink more fluids than men it seems. I had a former female co-worker who had 6 kidney stones inside of two years.  She said it was genetics,  but the constant binge drinking can't have helped. Or her unpleasant attitude.

[ghost]

Women very likely have more asymptomatic stones, as well, due to the more direct and shorter path of the urethra. 

[Sky]

Which is too fucking small.   

Also, Percocet makes me barf.  Another little bit of knowledge I'd love to have not known. 

Tell everyone you know who might end up in the ER with you, take home after surgery (minor or major) or might otherwise deal with doctors while you're too busy focusing on how unpleasant something is. And let your doctor's know up front if it's scheduled.

There's plenty of meds that'll reduce nausea from painkillers (my wife uses phenergan -- Vicodin, percocet, and pretty much everything stronger than codeine sets her off). It's just normally when you need them, you don't think to ask for them. Because of the pain.

I've learned one of my jobs as spouse is to tell the doctor, when she's writing out scripts and my wife is in recovery, "Oh, can you add phengran or another anti-nausea med? The Vicodin you just prescribed is gonna make her puke otherwise".

It really makes everything more pleasant. She doesn't feel the pain and I don't have to clean up vomit.

Could've used this advice a few days ago, I can't touch the oxycodone they gave me for my toe because it makes me wicked sick. I may have to ask the follow up doctor for some.

[Morat20]

If it was recent, you can generally call your PCP. Phengran isn't exactly a party drug -- they might ask for a quick visit, but depending on how long he or she's been your primary care physician, a quick explanation of the accident and the drugs they prescribed might be enough. If nothing else, if they hear "pain" and "can't keep down the pain pills" and that you just need something for nausea, they'll generally fit you in right away.

It's a five minute eval -- they just wanna see the drugs that are making you vomit and that yep, you're injuried/in pain.

Also, I am very fond my my wife's lawyer now. Pages of response to the plaintiff, 95% of which boil down to "Fuck you, we don't have to answer for [reasons]".

[ghost]

Zofran, i.e. ondansatron, usually 4 mg every 6-8 hours by mouth for nausea/vomiting, can give you tabs that dissolve under the tongue.  Can up to 8 mg every 8 hours if having a really rough time.

Should take percocet/norco with food, meaning after you've really eaten something, which can be a PITA if you're already vomiting.  If I were you I'd ask for some zofran first and see if you can get things calmed down, then try with some food.  

You can also see if they will try you on some toradol (ketorolac).  It's a pretty powerful NSAID that really does a lot for pain.  The IV stuff nailed my stone pain down to nothing.  It usually doesn't cause nausea and vomiting, but can be a problem if you have kidney issues already. 

[Sky]

PCP around here is a total pain in the ass. There are pretty much no competent doctors with competent offices. I left mine and after much nagging from the old lady I'm going to her nurse practitioner who broke away from the crappy doctor she worked for, just to get some routine checkups and have someone to do referrals. Still trying to find a decent doctor after the utter failure that was my last one, and her awful office (the support staff is just as important, imo).

Good pecialists are pretty easy to find, a good primary? Like a three-horned unicorn. Tricorn. Whatever.

[apocrypha]

Tricorn. Whatever.

Isn't that a hat?

[Sky]

That's some next level Illuminati shit right there.

[Cheddar]

Flew back from Southern California right in time for the flood of a millenia 

This is why I insist on living on high ground.  This shit is unreal.  Good luck to all my peeps in SC!