Useless Conversation

[Sky]

But then you have to live in Texas.

Bitch #487 about Google's bizarre rejection of sorting tools for fucking anything. I'd like to sort web search results by date, so I can look at a list starting from the most recent posts. I don't want to slog through 'week' 'month' 'eon', I just want all the results, which can obviously be categorized by date, listed in order. Fuck you, google.

Also, fuck Apple for defaulting on "Reopen windows when logging back on." Not only a memory issue (can create out of memory errors with office), it's crashing my print management client at EVERY login. And my disk protection software seems to be stopping the script from writing in the 0 but won't prevent the OS from writing in the 1. Even if you don't want to expose something through the GUI (though 'why this' boggles the mind), at least let a brother set a fucking zero and respect it.

And then I got in the reply to my checklist of current issues for the software vendor. Looks like every single thing I found broken is a known issue or working as intended. I'm so fucking surprised. Apparently expecting things that cost a ton of cash to actually work is ludicrous. I'm amazed anyone bitches about mmo being fucked up, the entire software industry is a bunch of half-assed retards making way too much money to not get the job done.

[murdoc]

Wow.  That's insane.  The last condo I owned went for $70K, and it was okay but not super nice.  You can get a sweet pad in San Antonio for $230,000.  

Just as a comparison:

Calgary Metro House Stats

New Listings: 1,387 (vs. 1,397 same period 2011)
Sales: 914 (vs. 695 same period 2011)
Sales to New Listing Ratio: 66% (vs. 50% same period 2011)
Sales to Active Listing Ratio: 25% (vs. 16% same period 2011)
Current Listing Inventory: 3,610 (down 15.7% from same period 2011)

2012 Year to Date Average House Price: $464,834 (up 1.07% from same period 2011)
March 2012 Average Selling Price:$472,465 (up 2.36% from same period 2011)


Calgary Metro Condo Stats

New Listings: 596 (vs. 604 same period 2011)
Sales: 366 (vs. 317 same period 2011)
Sales to New Listing Ratio: 61% (vs. 52% same period 2011)
Sales to Active Listing Ratio: 20% (vs. 16% same period 2011)
Current Listing Inventory: 1,802 (down 11.2% from same period 2011)

2012 Year to Date Average Condo Price: $287,355 (up 0.53% from same period 2011)
March 2012 Avg Selling Price: $287,933 (up 2.5% from same period 2011)

Total Calgary MLS® Stats (includes SF homes, Condos, Mobile Homes, Country Residential, Outside of Calgary)

New Listings: 2,914 (vs. 2,786 same period 2011)
Sales: 1,626 (vs. 1,259 same period 2011)
Sales to New Listing Ratio: 56% (vs. 45% same period 2011)
Sales to Active Listing Ratio: 16% (vs. 12% same period 2011)
Current Listing Inventory: 10,247 (down 4.1% from same period 2011)
% of Sale Price to List Price: 97.50% (vs. 97.14% same period 2011)
SP >= LP: 136 (vs. 99 same period 2011)
Max $ SP > LP: $160,100 (vs. $35,600 same period 2011)

2012 Year to Date Average Selling Price: $416,237 (up 1.48% from same period 2011)
March 2012 Average Selling Price: $423,144 (up 2.70% from same period 2011)

Metro Calgary Real Estate Stats for March 2012

Northwest Calgary Average Sale Price (Zone A):
-  March 2012 NW Calgary SF Residential: $472,122 (vs. $456,483 previous month)
(Avg DOM 38 days)
-  March 2012 NW Calgary Condo: $275,009 (vs. $295,400 previous month)
(Avg DOM=52 days)

Northeast Calgary Average Sale Price (Zone B):
-  March 2012 NE Calgary SF Residential: $296,185 (vs. $293,714 previous month)
(Avg DOM=44 days)
-  March 2012 NE Calgary Condo: $179,519 (vs. $171,995 previous month)
(Avg DOM=62 days)

Southwest Calgary Average Sale Price (Zone C):
-  March 2012 SW Calgary SF Residential: $592,235 (vs. $589,725 previous month)
(Avg DOM=38 days)
-  March 2012 SW Calgary Condo: $310,410 (vs. $319,352 previous month)
(Avg DOM=46 days)

Southeast Calgary Average Sale Price (Zone D):
-  March 2012 SE Calgary SF Residential: $424,691 (vs. $422,646 previous month)
(Avg DOM=44 days)
-  March 2012 SE Calgary Condo: $257,076 (vs. $275,136 previous month)
(Avg DOM=41 days)

Vancouver would be higher than that.

[bhodi]

As would anything in the NoVA area. I am currently renting a room from my friend, 2 bed, 2 bath condo just east of Dulles, he bought it for 260k. Look at zip code 22030.

[ghost]

Wow.  Prices of real estate are insane.  Maybe we needed the bubble to bust. 

[Chimpy]

Pretty sure the landlord at my last place in Chicago sold our apartment for around $250k in 2006 and it was not a super nice place. The new condos about 4 blocks away were starting at $350k for a 1br.

[Sky]

Wow.  Prices of real estate are insane.  Maybe we needed the bubble to bust. 

That and the differential from metro to non-metro. I live in a city, not a town, and 350k will buy you a 6 bed 5 bath brick colonial mansion, albeit without much yard. My 2 bed 1 bath on a third of an acre dead end prime location (schools), as I said, under 60k, though it's worth a bit more now that I've done some work on it.

Low rates and lending nonsense isn't helping things. The shift from a saving mentality to a borrowing mentality hasn't been good. Sure, 20% mortgage loans sucked...but you were also earning double digits in the goddamned savings bank. Hell, I was making 5% in a crappy free checking account in the mid 90s.

[Ingmar]

Blackberry stuff starting to work. Now if I can just figure out how to get the people opening secondary mailboxes with IMAP to display shit in the proper subfolders everything will be pretty much done.

That's a little unusual, isn't it ?  Shouldn't be doing that.  Are these Macs ?

Nope, not Macs. Here's the scenario:

Microsoft Outlook running Google Apps Sync for Microsoft Outlook for primary account - this part works fine.

Second account being opened in same Outlook profile using IMAP pointed at Gmail. Outlook tries to translate the labels into folder names and gets the whole folder structure fine, but also creates another little folder structure called GMail with subfolders corresponding to the standard Gmail labels - All Mail, Trash, Spam, etc.

The folder/label structure of the account is all there, however Outlook does not show items below the Inbox level in their proper subfolder; instead it shows them only in the "All Mail" label under the Gmail heading. This is causing tears, because we have several groups that used to use these shared accounts for sorting incoming support tickets, AP/AR stuff, etc. I'm assuming this happens because items can have more than one label in Gmail but Outlook needs them to be in one folder only.

Now, in the long term, the fix is probably 'don't use such a shitty method for things that should be handled by a proper CRM system' but in the short term I need to figure out how they can use what they have.

[ghost]

Wow.  Prices of real estate are insane.  Maybe we needed the bubble to bust. 

That and the differential from metro to non-metro. I live in a city, not a town, and 350k will buy you a 6 bed 5 bath brick colonial mansion, albeit without much yard. My 2 bed 1 bath on a third of an acre dead end prime location (schools), as I said, under 60k, though it's worth a bit more now that I've done some work on it.

Low rates and lending nonsense isn't helping things. The shift from a saving mentality to a borrowing mentality hasn't been good. Sure, 20% mortgage loans sucked...but you were also earning double digits in the goddamned savings bank. Hell, I was making 5% in a crappy free checking account in the mid 90s.

Yeah, but I'm pretty spoiled being in a metro area with such low prices.  San Antonio metro area is at about 2 million now.  And it's not completely ghetto.  Boring, yes, but not ghetto.

[Yegolev]

Now, in the long term, the fix is probably 'don't use such a shitty method for things that should be handled by a proper CRM system' but in the short term I need to figure out how they can use what they have.

Have you tried dumping all the mail into text files and writing a perl script to sort everything?

[Ingmar]

"Learn to script" is on my list of things to do this year so maybe I can try that! 

[Sir T]

Just found out I'm glucose intolerant. ONWARD, TO DIABETES!!

*runs away screaming*

To be honest I was cutting down on Sugar anyway so its probably not going to be a big loss. Every bloody piece of "diet" food out there is loaded with starch though, and sod all protien. Thank god I looked at the labels. I think its time I learned how to cook properly.

Of course there's



 

[ghost]

You should read this:

The Blood Sugar Solution.

It's a great book and will give you a nice background on how most of us are actually prediabetic in the USA. 

[Sir T]

Thanks. I'll definatly check it out.

[Ironwood]

Blackberry stuff starting to work. Now if I can just figure out how to get the people opening secondary mailboxes with IMAP to display shit in the proper subfolders everything will be pretty much done.

That's a little unusual, isn't it ?  Shouldn't be doing that.  Are these Macs ?

Nope, not Macs. Here's the scenario:

Microsoft Outlook running Google Apps Sync for Microsoft Outlook for primary account - this part works fine.

Second account being opened in same Outlook profile using IMAP pointed at Gmail. Outlook tries to translate the labels into folder names and gets the whole folder structure fine, but also creates another little folder structure called GMail with subfolders corresponding to the standard Gmail labels - All Mail, Trash, Spam, etc.

The folder/label structure of the account is all there, however Outlook does not show items below the Inbox level in their proper subfolder; instead it shows them only in the "All Mail" label under the Gmail heading. This is causing tears, because we have several groups that used to use these shared accounts for sorting incoming support tickets, AP/AR stuff, etc. I'm assuming this happens because items can have more than one label in Gmail but Outlook needs them to be in one folder only.

Now, in the long term, the fix is probably 'don't use such a shitty method for things that should be handled by a proper CRM system' but in the short term I need to figure out how they can use what they have.

Hmmm.  I may have an idea, but it's late here.  This is something I've been doing a fair bit of lately. 

There are actually a bunch of good MAPI pl scripts that I have for this kinda thing that might help.

[Ingmar]

Cool, I'll definitely take a look at whatever you have.

[Lantyssa]

The folder/label structure of the account is all there, however Outlook does not show items below the Inbox level in their proper subfolder; instead it shows them only in the "All Mail" label under the Gmail heading. This is causing tears, because we have several groups that used to use these shared accounts for sorting incoming support tickets, AP/AR stuff, etc. I'm assuming this happens because items can have more than one label in Gmail but Outlook needs them to be in one folder only.

My Gmail behaved the same way with Thunderbird after I started using IMAP instead of POP3.  At a guess it is because labels are not proper folders, but IMAP tries to give you something workable.

I'm not sure there is a solution without writing your own plug-in.

[Viin]

Yep yep, thats why I've never used IMAP with GMail. Forcing my email into a single folder when there are multiple tags is lame. (not that I have a better solution - use the webapp?)

[Ironwood]

Good Morning !

Wait, wasn't this a transition ?  I thought you were the chap that was moving stuff off Google Mail ?

[Trippy]

The folder/label structure of the account is all there, however Outlook does not show items below the Inbox level in their proper subfolder; instead it shows them only in the "All Mail" label under the Gmail heading. This is causing tears, because we have several groups that used to use these shared accounts for sorting incoming support tickets, AP/AR stuff, etc. I'm assuming this happens because items can have more than one label in Gmail but Outlook needs them to be in one folder only.

My Gmail behaved the same way with Thunderbird after I started using IMAP instead of POP3.  At a guess it is because labels are not proper folders, but IMAP tries to give you something workable.

I'm not sure there is a solution without writing your own plug-in.

Create the folders on the IMAP side and Gmail will use them as labels.

[Bunk]

Your condo is $232,000?  Geebus that must be a nice condo.  If you've got a buyer drop that shit quick.

Vancouver. Not saying it's not nice, but that sounds probably about average, if not slightly less than what the prices out there would be.

Vancouver suburbs. 15 years old, 1200 sq'. For that price in Vancouver proper, you might get 600 sq'.

I bought it five years ago for $243k.   

[Stewie]

Downtown Vancouver condos are 300K and up.
Here is a random sample from downtown off of mls.ca  345k for a 460sq' 0 bed 1 bath condo. thats right 0 bedrooms 

http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetails.aspx?propertyId=11624327&PidKey=77808421

[ghost]

Jesus, Craigslist is a cesspool.  I'm trying to see a few bicycles and for every real interested email I've gotten there have been 10 completely obvious scammers. 

[Lantyssa]

Create the folders on the IMAP side and Gmail will use them as labels.

Can you have multiple labels on a single piece of mail though?  That's what I liked about gmail.

(Not that it really matters to me anymore.  I stopped using the web interface long ago.)

[Engels]

Anyone here work on the tech side of Chromeleon, the chromatograph mass spec controller/interface/datacollector program?

[RhyssaFireheart]

I love pot luck lunches at work.

/foodcoma

[Ingmar]

Good Morning !

Wait, wasn't this a transition ?  I thought you were the chap that was moving stuff off Google Mail ?

Nope, onto.

[Ironwood]

Oh.

Good Luck.

 

[Yegolev]

Heartfelt!

My next genius idea: have everyone print out their emails and wipe the DBs clean.

[Polysorbate80]

Spent half an hour this morning in a bathrobe and muddy boots catching the two stray ponies wandering through my yard.

...I feel like I've officially become a redneck.

[RhyssaFireheart]

Pics or it didn't happen!

There were apparently two deer in the front yard this morning when the husband went out for his walk.  I was still blissfully asleep for this event.

[Trippy]

Create the folders on the IMAP side and Gmail will use them as labels.

Can you have multiple labels on a single piece of mail though?  That's what I liked about gmail.

(Not that it really matters to me anymore.  I stopped using the web interface long ago.)

You can have multiple labels but you would have to do that through Gmail, not your IMAP application.

[Ironwood]

Me, I wouldn't use IMAP for Google at all.

But I'm guessing you're constrained in some way.

[Samwise]

Spent half an hour this morning in a bathrobe and muddy boots catching the two stray ponies wandering through my yard.

...I feel like I've officially become a redneck.

I drove by some free-range chickens on my commute this morning, on a hillside right by the freeway.

Totally boring to those of you in the heartland, I'm sure, but I've literally never seen chickens running around SF before.  It was a bit surreal.

[Ingmar]

Me, I wouldn't use IMAP for Google at all.

But I'm guessing you're constrained in some way.

Constrained in that we have users who want to have multiple mailboxes open side-by-side, but GASMO will only do the fake MAPI thing for one account at a time, yeah.

[ghost]

Spent half an hour this morning in a bathrobe and muddy boots catching the two stray ponies wandering through my yard.

...I feel like I've officially become a redneck.

I drove by some free-range chickens on my commute this morning, on a hillside right by the freeway.

Totally boring to those of you in the heartland, I'm sure, but I've literally never seen chickens running around SF before.  It was a bit surreal.

That's pretty cool.  I think we're going to start seeing more and more of that as time goes on, what with all the weird shit the companies keep trying to do with our food.