(UO expansion) You'll all scoff, but I'm still going to jizz.

[Azaroth]

I only came in here because someone said jizz.

[Nonentity]

Wow, I think I've developed internet instincts.

My first instinct was to Google image search for jizz and then post it, and a split send later, I had the realization that no, that would be an awful idea.

[WayAbvPar]

Wow, I think I've developed internet instincts.

My first instinct was to Google image search for jizz and then post it, and a split send later, I had the realization that no, that would be an awful idea.

Pity...your 100th post is a nice round number to be banned on 

[sinij]

You could always edit his post, add pic of jizz and ban him for that. I promise I won't tell anyone.

[Sky]

Who would have guessed that WUA UO's thread would be useful. Wonders of Intraweb.

I think main points of a classic server should be a) No Trammel b) No alts c) Classic 'drop all your loot' crafting and combat system.

So to make it simple - No Trammies, no alts and no artifacts.

I agree. All that itemization jazz really got away from what UO was about: simple systems to foster player interaction, for good or ill. I still think people can't have nice toys, and I still liked the old Siege Perilous server the best.

I liked that people couldn't get into it quickly, and could only roll up a single character. It drastically lowered the amount of douchebaggery on the server. That server had a great community and was some of the best UO I'd played, couldn't go back to a ghetto shard after that. People tended to be invested more in their characters. Sure, you had entire guilds of jackasses, but you generally knew them, where they hung out, and they were invested in their jackassy characters. Reputation meant something, and I don't mean the cheesy hard-coded system.

I've been thinking about SP a lot lately, I just wish I had the time to invest in playing. The very things I like about mmo are the barrier to my playing mmo.

[Falconeer]

Actually, classic shard... I would be more than happy with Siege Perilous alone if it wasn't for that crap about limited gain per day or something like that...

[Nonentity]

You could always edit his post, add pic of jizz and ban him for that. I promise I won't tell anyone.

Hey! I never did nothin' to nobody.  :-(

[Shapechanger]

Should ban you just for thinking of it!!!  Get F13 shut down at work with jizz links =P

[Azaroth]

I can't believe a single post changed this from "getting something important done: the musical" to Jizzgate: F13.

[sinij]

The art of

[WindupAtheist]

I don't suppose someone can come along and (yet again) split and den the obvious spam if this is in danger of getting locked or something?  I believe everyone, myself included, will be happier if my UO news/blathering is confined to one thread, rather than a new one created everytime there's something to report.

[Cheddar]

I don't suppose someone can come along and (yet again) split and den the obvious spam if this is in danger of getting locked or something?  I believe everyone, myself included, will be happier if my UO news/blathering is confined to one thread, rather than a new one created everytime there's something to report.

No.  Meandering is what makes F13 so beautiful.  Embrace the beauty.

[sinij]

WUA I can lend you my flame template, hope it will help you defend this thread.

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[Rasix]

I don't suppose someone can come along and (yet again) split and den the obvious spam if this is in danger of getting locked or something?  I believe everyone, myself included, will be happier if my UO news/blathering is confined to one thread, rather than a new one created everytime there's something to report.

If I get really bored, maybe.  OK, everyone, back to UO news/talking. 

Any more dumb crap will get split.

[sinij]

I found this post in my UO archives. I still think most of it (minus specific examples) stands.

AoS approaches PvP from wrong angle…

Following quote is from latest house of commons.

Lord-Xanthor - *Newman* You have already stated that there will be no work done on factions anytime soon... Yet, AoS was billed to be a big PvP expansion... care to explain?
Fertbert - I've mentioned in several of my posts on the UO message boards that we're adding a lot more options for PvP and PvM...and we are. :)
AdrickOSI - sorry Im late but just in time it seems
AdrickOSI - factions is a pvp system yes - in aos we chose to expand and improve the underlying methods to pvp
AdrickOSI - we hope this will improve all forms of combat and as a result improve the level of enjoyment participating in factions

Biggest problem with PvP is that not only mechanics should be improved but also dynamics should be addressed. PvP in this regard is very like sports car – you can have amazing sport car (PvP mechanics) but then it might not be street legal (PvP dynamics) so you can’t use it at all. At the moment, even with 2 hit kill faction runic arms, underpowered magic resistance, chain throwers of explosion potions and endless horse races mechanics are tolerable and can be considered an improvement when compared to UO:R. Still PvP dynamics, or ways to use PvP mechanics, were neglected since UO:R and right now in abysmal state. We have pointless ganking, have house hiding, endless horse races, server line hopping, moongate campers, broken factions, meaningless Order and Chaos wars no guild alliance options, no guild powers or options, dated and half broken guild interface and list goes on and on. There is not much point into adding all these new and wonderful options to PvP if nobody going to use them in a fun way. It doesn’t matter if you use spells, pets, nifty abilities – it won’t make being ganked or chasing bleeder for 20 minutes to some house any more fun.

My point is that something has to be done to improve dynamics in order to bring enjoyment back to PvP. Bring meaningful red vs. blue wars, add guild alliances, fix and improve factions, give some meaning to order and chaos wars and you will see PvP flourish even at current level of PvP mechanics.

Since then they proceeded to roll out AoS and FUBAR-ed PvP mechanics.

[WindupAtheist]

I found this post in my UO archives.

Wait, your what?  I thought I was the crazy UO obssessive.

[Kitsune]

Thread derailed?

But to be halfway productive, the new client looks pretty good.  However, I'm still not going to play UO if it's full of samurai elves and shit.  I'm still a sucker for the potential that game has, the way a bunch of adventurers can wander into some guy's bar and kick back together or run off into a cave and hack on things or go fish up some sea monsters to fight for treasure.  That potential, however, is wasted as far as I've seen.

[Yegolev]

I found this post in my UO archives.

You need a girlfriend.

I have to say that it might be worthwhile to keep this thread clean and organized since I don't think there's been a productive UO discussion since 2000.  I only played release-version UO, though, so I am probably not to be trusted.

[WindupAtheist]

The samurai stuff is generally tasteful enough that I don't mind.  I even have GM Bushido on my character because it's useful to my template and unobtrusive.  (It's just a set of combat moves, your character doesn't scream "Corp Por" in Japanese or anything.)  The elf crap was just poorly-considered focus group nonsense, in my opinion.  Hopefully the next race they're adding will be something sensible and will dilute their influence a bit.

[sinij]

You need a girlfriend.

Thats a lot of assumptions about my sex, martial status and sexual preferences crammed into short sentence. I keep archive of my rants and raves as a way to monitor progress of my mental ret^h^h^hdegradation. That and some of my posts are funny and good for a chuckle or two later on.

[Yegolev]

I was hedging my bets in case you really did have a UO archive.

[Lantyssa]

Short Term: I got tired of my wife car's shitty headlights so I'm retrofitting Xenons into it.

Regardless of who you are and how you identify, that would imply you are married and like women.

Or liked women at some point.

Or think of your husband as femme.

[Murgos]

That and some of my posts are funny and good for a chuckle or two later on.

Do you sit up at night in the dark and chuckle over your various bon mots and a cold beer?

[sinij]

Every night. Don't you? If not, you should.

[WindupAtheist]

Quotes from this week's "Five on Friday" thing which I think might be relevant to the thread.

"What’s next with PvP?"
From Darkscribe: "What’s truly next in PvP is a project that is being planned for after the launch of UOKR. As with all future plans, we aren’t going to talk about details right now because they will change dozens of times before you ever get to play it. The core idea is to give a much more compelling reason to PvP, which is what factions was supposed to do but never quite got there. That’s all for now."

"Are you ever going to look at low level content in the game for new characters? "
From Darkscribe again, since he's the KR newsman: "Yes, indeed. One of the least talked about portions of UOKR is the brand spanking new New Player Experience. We are working very hard to make the first 10-20 hours a much better time for new players, while taking out the repetition and brute force button mashing it takes to build skills. More details soon on that."

In terms of in-game events, noise is that either Moonglow or Luna (or both) will be destroyed.  UOAM has picked up a smashed-in copy of Moonglow floating out in space where players can't reach, and Luna is on fire on Test Center.  Sure it's just Test, but there was something about "city of paladins laid stone from stone" or some such in the event NPC dialogue a few months ago.

[Cheddar]

New player experience needs to be built up with the brand new interface.  ie.  Build the interface then spend some time working on the new player interface.  To do otherwise is to engage in failure.  I would be willing to help test this (from a QA perspective).  Not attempting to garner a free invite on stuff, just offering services. 

[Yegolev]

Anything to help a new player at all is better than what UO has now, which is zippo.  Seriously, I don't know where my manual is, and just letting me loose in the world is great, except that I remember being killed by everything larger than a bunny.  It would also be awesome if I didn't have to perform brain surgery on the UO client to get it to run; way to lose your IP addresses, geniuses.  Fix that shit before you start putting yellow exclamation points over peoples heads.

[WindupAtheist]

They do take you on a little tour where they make you invisible and teleport your newbie character around to watch actual players doing stuff.  And a newbie character always gets a tutorial quest relevant to their skills.  But yeah, it could be a lot better.

[Shapechanger]

Okay... I look at UO and I think... 'Hmm, that game is OLD.  If I were to start playing it, I probably wouldn't be 10 years behind, as things have changed.  Maybe just 5 years behind, or 3 years behind....' then I think, 'no thanks.'

Thats the problem with MMOs.  All about the building up of.  All those expansions, too hard to catch up.  No sale.

[sinij]

I don't think we covered all angles on 'jizz' discussion.

[Yegolev]

They do take you on a little tour where they make you invisible and teleport your newbie character around to watch actual players doing stuff.  And a newbie character always gets a tutorial quest relevant to their skills.  But yeah, it could be a lot better.

I assume this has been added since December 2005, which was when I last bent the laws of time and space to install and run my original retail CDROM.

[WindupAtheist]

News.

The new graphics/UI client will be released for free, with an expansion requiring that client to be released a couple months later.  The new race is Gargoyle, which I love because it's an actual race from Ultima lore and not another Tolkien/WoW retread.

[Azaroth]

News.

The new graphics/UI client will be released for free, with an expansion requiring that client to be released a couple months later.  The new race is Gargoyle, which I love because it's an actual race from Ultima lore and not another Tolkien/WoW retread.

Yeah but....


hhokay.

I guess I don't understand why you'd spend all of that time and money to hand it all over to free servers, who will probably see an upswing of popularity based on that spent time and money.

[WindupAtheist]

Which is why EA might just finally put the legal beatdown on freeshards, as per the other thread.

[Xuri]

Which is why EA might just finally put the legal beatdown on freeshards, as per the other thread.

Well. I wish EA good luck with that. They'll certainly need it, with the amount of shards & players out there. I don't think they'll have much more luck if they target the server emulators themselves either.