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on: July 23, 2006, 02:41:07 PM

So I saw Clerks 2.

Was funny.

Kevin Smith still writes the most unbearable "romantic" dialogue in the industry.

DISCUSS.
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Reply #1 on: July 23, 2006, 02:44:48 PM

My wife asserted (and I agreed somewhat) that he laid the pathos on a bit too heavy but overall I thought it was a pretty good flick, especially if you are a fan of the original.  Some of the self-contained dialogue bits and Jay stunts (which is what you are looking for in a Clerks movie anyways) were really funny.  Plus, Dawson has some lovely bouncing bits.

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Reply #2 on: July 23, 2006, 02:49:08 PM

Too bad Dawson opened her mouth.

To be more explanatory, I thought this was his best "yearbook" movie. Even better than Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. This was his true love letter to the fans and it's a shame he tried to add coherent romance to it. Granted, he tried to do it with the first Clerks, but the actors back then were such shit that it didn't come across as painful as this. As an entire package though, it was easily his best movie since Chasing Amy.
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Reply #3 on: July 23, 2006, 03:49:22 PM

Me and a couple buddies had a drunken Kevin Smith marathon this week as I had never seen any of his movies.  I enjoyed them all, but by the time Friday rolled around I was kind of dreading going to see yet another K. Smith film.

Well, I loved it.  I laughed almost the entire duration of the show.  It might have been the beer, but hey...  It was a fun flick.  Big bouncing Dawson boobs rule.

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Reply #4 on: July 23, 2006, 05:37:03 PM

I am a horrible parent.  Even though it's rated R I'm considering going to watch it, and take the kids.   The Daughter saw Jay & Silent Bob in the theaters, and still loves Jay's Rap, though now that she's 7 and beginning to understand it, things get a bit awkward.  (At least we got her to stop doing the Mother-mother-fuck bit).

Hrm.

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Reply #5 on: July 23, 2006, 06:01:07 PM

Your kids will grow up fine. If we're lucky, Cheddar will take his girls. DONKEY SHOWS ARE TOTALLY APPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN.
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Reply #6 on: July 23, 2006, 06:04:42 PM

If we're lucky, Cheddar won't be charged with manslaughter after his daughter starts to date.
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Reply #7 on: July 23, 2006, 06:23:47 PM

If we're lucky, Cheddar won't be charged with manslaughter after his daughter starts to date.

I give this a pre-emptive Kekela.

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Reply #8 on: July 23, 2006, 07:07:16 PM

I am a horrible parent.  Even though it's rated R I'm considering going to watch it, and take the kids.   The Daughter saw Jay & Silent Bob in the theaters, and still loves Jay's Rap, though now that she's 7 and beginning to understand it, things get a bit awkward.  (At least we got her to stop doing the Mother-mother-fuck bit).

Hrm.

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Reply #9 on: July 23, 2006, 07:08:58 PM

I dug it.  I was apprehensive going in about the concept of having the characters "grow up", but it worked out nicely, and I think it was a lot better than if he had tried to just remake the original.

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Reply #10 on: July 23, 2006, 07:19:08 PM

I am a horrible parent.  Even though it's rated R I'm considering going to watch it, and take the kids.   The Daughter saw Jay & Silent Bob in the theaters, and still loves Jay's Rap, though now that she's 7 and beginning to understand it, things get a bit awkward.  (At least we got her to stop doing the Mother-mother-fuck bit).

Hrm.

Do you really want your 7 year old daughter talking about going ass to mouth?

Moreover, would you let your 7 year old daughter watch Silence of the Lambs?

EVERYTHING in Silence of the Lambs?  Think really hard.

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Reply #11 on: July 23, 2006, 07:39:01 PM

"It's okay, I'm taking it back!" might be my new favorite catchphrase.

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Reply #12 on: July 23, 2006, 07:45:22 PM

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Do you really want your 7 year old daughter talking about going ass to mouth?

Not to mention blowing donkeys.

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Reply #13 on: July 23, 2006, 08:51:20 PM

Yeah that's pretty shitty parenting.  I could see if the kid was at least in 5th grade.  Seven is just fucked up.
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Reply #14 on: July 23, 2006, 10:13:39 PM

Dude come on, why would you take your 7-year-old to see that?

You know when you go to a movie that is clearly not for kids and you see some dumbass with 3 kids there? Don't be that guy.

At least if you are going to bring your little one to an adult movie, pick a better one than Jay and Silent Bob for christ's sake. Not only is your kid going to be warped they are going to have extremely shitty taste in movies.

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Reply #15 on: July 23, 2006, 10:36:21 PM

I liked the movie. Don't take your kids to it, 100% fucking sure of that. It would be THE most dumb thing you'll ever do outside of the internet. I'm craving a sub.
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Reply #16 on: July 24, 2006, 03:31:46 AM

I haven't seen it but the phrase "Porch Monkeys" is now an annoying catch phrase at other places I visit.

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Reply #17 on: July 24, 2006, 03:54:46 AM

Well now I know why it's got the R, good enough I'm not taking 'em.

Moreover, would you let your 7 year old daughter watch Silence of the Lambs?

EVERYTHING in Silence of the Lambs?  Think really hard.

From what the others have said, this is a bad analogy.  Violence is different from language.  I thought it was just a language thing, and I've got no problems with that.  Donkey parties and ass-to-mouth.. way over what I was thinking of.

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Reply #18 on: July 24, 2006, 05:14:15 AM

  Do you know how much of an asshole it makes you look like when your 6 year old girl is repeating a mantra of "mother-mother fuck?"  Christ.
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Reply #19 on: July 24, 2006, 05:14:30 AM

I cannot WAIT to see this movie.  Unfortunetely the SO has not seen Clerks 1; we are going to do a Kevin Smith marathon either this weekend or next.  And I would have no issues letting my daughters watch this movie.  As long as they did not bring a boy along.  RAR.

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Reply #20 on: July 24, 2006, 07:38:42 AM

  Do you know how much of an asshole it makes you look like when your 6 year old girl is repeating a mantra of "mother-mother fuck?"  Christ.

Wah. I care what you, or anyone else thinks of me, why exactly?

She was 2 or 3 at the time.  Kids hear things that are catchy and they repeat them until you tell them not to.  They're much like parrots in that they usually repeat the things you DON'T want them to.  I do find it amusing that the folks without kids are the ones outraged, however.   Oh noes, kids heard cursing!

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Reply #21 on: July 24, 2006, 07:57:25 AM

Wah. I care what you, or anyone else thinks of me, why exactly?

It usually keeps Child Services from questioning whether or not you should keep your kids. Kids cursing like a Kevin Smith film and talking about deviant sex practices tends to get those type of folks snooping through your shit.
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Reply #22 on: July 24, 2006, 08:04:18 AM

She was 2 or 3 at the time.  Kids hear things that are catchy and they repeat them until you tell them not to.  They're much like parrots in that they usually repeat the things you DON'T want them to.  I do find it amusing that the folks without kids are the ones outraged, however.   Oh noes, kids heard cursing!

Kids cursing is part of the curriculum over here.  I'm not bothered about it.

That said, I would NOT take any child under the age of 40 to a Kevin Smith Movie.  The last thing you want is to be summoned to your school because your kid was making jokes about the back of a Volkswagen.

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Reply #23 on: July 24, 2006, 08:12:01 AM

Wah. I care what you, or anyone else thinks of me, why exactly?

It usually keeps Child Services from questioning whether or not you should keep your kids. Kids cursing like a Kevin Smith film and talking about deviant sex practices tends to get those type of folks snooping through your shit.

It takes a lot more than some foul language to get DCFS up in your shit, hoss.  Seriously.  But feel free to be (I would assume) yet another non-parent offering parenting advice/FUD.  Kids learn to swear.  They then proceed to swear.  Adults sometimes laugh the first time they hear a 2-year-old saying, "shit."  This then encourages the 2-year-old.  Of course, since parenting is simple and easy, I guess that should never happen, right?

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Reply #24 on: July 24, 2006, 08:22:47 AM

Depending on the part of the US you're in foul language of varying tolerance. Here in the bible belt  it's more likely to get a blue hair in sufficient tizzy to go tattling on you.

Some stuff is seemingly universal.  If a boy or girl in my son's class started talking bout half the stuff seen in one of these movies, I'd be a more than a bit worried.

I was referring to the combination of things, not the cursing alone, Slack.  And  I was giving a reason why some people don't let their kids do whatever they want in public, apart from the fact they would want them to act like upstanding little boys and girls. Personally,  I think you're overreacting on this. Sensitive much?

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Reply #25 on: July 24, 2006, 08:37:59 AM

I am a retard. My wife kept asking me if I wanted to see a movie this weekend to escape the heat (it is fucking HOT here now, and no one has AC in their houses since it only gets hot a few days a year). I kept demurring, thinking that there wasn't anything I REALLY wanted to see coming out. ARRRGGGHHH. Now she is working tonight, so I won't get to see it until tomorrow.

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Reply #26 on: July 24, 2006, 09:06:04 AM

That said, I would NOT take any child under the age of 40 to a Kevin Smith Movie.  The last thing you want is to be summoned to your school because your kid was making jokes about the back of a Volkswagen.

Is that because of the manufacturer?

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I won't watch Kevin Smith films with him till he is around 12/13 though.  I am itching to the see the flick and unlike most of the crowd really have not been dissapointed in any of his movies.  J&SBSB is probably my least fav, even over Jersey Girl, which I would have liked a lot if it would have focused on the girl and George Carlin's character, not bad at all though...

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Reply #27 on: July 24, 2006, 09:22:09 AM

Well now I know why it's got the R, good enough I'm not taking 'em.

Moreover, would you let your 7 year old daughter watch Silence of the Lambs?

EVERYTHING in Silence of the Lambs?  Think really hard.

From what the others have said, this is a bad analogy.  Violence is different from language.

Believe me, the analogy is appropriate.  You just don't know to what I'm referring, and I don't want to give away a really good joke so I can't explain any further.

But think about everything in Silence of the Lambs, every moment that might make you think "Huh, do I want my little girl seeing this?"  You should figure it out eventually.

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Reply #28 on: July 24, 2006, 09:23:20 AM

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Reply #29 on: July 24, 2006, 09:58:48 AM

  Do you know how much of an asshole it makes you look like when your 6 year old girl is repeating a mantra of "mother-mother fuck?"  Christ.

Wah. I care what you, or anyone else thinks of me, why exactly?

She was 2 or 3 at the time.  Kids hear things that are catchy and they repeat them until you tell them not to.  They're much like parrots in that they usually repeat the things you DON'T want them to.  I do find it amusing that the folks without kids are the ones outraged, however.   Oh noes, kids heard cursing!


Oh, I'm quite sure you don't care what other people think of you, after all, it takes a pretty healthy disregard for the mores of society to take a two year old to see a Jay and Silent Bob movie.  This is a movie filled with vulgarities, obscenities, and drug references.  Having said that, criticism should come as no shock to you, in what seems to be a frail attempt at rationalizing why you were too lazy to hire a babysitter.  I don't think you're the Great Satan, just an irresponsible douche. 
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Reply #30 on: July 24, 2006, 10:10:53 AM

You're the dude that makes prank calls on a service intended for the deaf, right?
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Reply #31 on: July 24, 2006, 11:34:29 AM

I haven't seen it but the phrase "Porch Monkeys" is now an annoying catch phrase at other places I visit.

"other places" being "the southern united states"?

"Porch monkeys" has been slang for NEGROS for as long as I can remember. What are they trying to make it mean in 2006?
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Reply #32 on: July 24, 2006, 11:39:08 AM

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Reply #33 on: July 24, 2006, 11:40:24 AM

Oh, I'm quite sure you don't care what other people think of you, after all, it takes a pretty healthy disregard for the mores of society to take a two year old to see a Jay and Silent Bob movie.  This is a movie filled with vulgarities, obscenities, and drug references.  Having said that, criticism should come as no shock to you, in what seems to be a frail attempt at rationalizing why you were too lazy to hire a babysitter.  I don't think you're the Great Satan, just an irresponsible douche. 

You really are a douche.  We fucking parent our children (IE are involved with their lives and spend time with them).  My daughters are fully aware of cussing and why it is a bad thing.  When it comes up in a movie we discuss it.  Attempting to ignore the problem will just make it "cool" and they will be more apt to do it.  I stand by my childrens performance in school and how well mannered they are.  In my opinion THAT is how you see how a parent is doing, not wether they allow their children to see one silly movie.

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Reply #34 on: July 24, 2006, 11:43:22 AM

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You're the dude that makes prank calls on a service intended for the deaf, right?


Yeah, I got like three pages of grief for that too.  I thought it was understood that 90% of the calls that MY IP RELAY gets are prank calls.  At the time, I didn't even try to rationalize it, I came out admitted that I was a bad person. 

At any rate, I have no problem distinguishing between prank calls and bad parenting. 

Look, I don't go out of my way to attack people on these boards.  But if you feel cavalier enough to come out and admit that you took your 5 year old or whatever to see a movie with humor entirely based on drugs and obscenities, then expect criticism. 
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