Forward Operations Base

[Yoru]

I have researched-up Scourge Heavy Missile and Kestrel BPOs in my hangar; I'll drop them into the corp area tonight. I also have a Starship RAM BPO off in a ME research facility that should be done by this evening; I'll dump that in there too.

(Starship RAMs are used in the production of Tech2 ships; I figure we can sell them or trade them to tech2 producers for Nice Things(tm). They're about 20k worth of minerals, all available in highsec, to produce.)

Beware of 0.1 rats; the 'Elder Blood' types have scramblers/webbers. I learned not to screw around with them the hard way last night by losing a caracal. Not a big shock to my wallet, but still an unpleasant lesson. I wouldn't suggest ratting solo in 0.1 unless you can confidently fight off both battlecruisers and scramming destroyers at the same time.

That said, I  nosferatu modules.

Also, I have a fairly sizeable stockpile of spare parts; I try to keep at least 3 of any given type of module around since I pick up all kinds of random crap from ratting in case I lose a ship. It works decently well. Still, it'd be worth having commonly-used module BPOs around to deal with shortages, since those BPOs usually only cost a few hundred thou.

[Hoax]

I think I mentioned I have base 3 perception (probably 5 now) and only skills for basic small hybrid and light bloodclaws.  I just have a really strong feeling that having next to zero combat skill could be a detriment.  It is important to keep these things in perspective.  However I have Electronics 4 and ECM 2 or 3, Warp drive 2 or 3, AB 3 or 2, maybe that is useful.  You will have to tell me if I can fill in some specialist role, by which I mean "not shooting".  And "not being shot" if possible.

But damn when they hit me.... Ouch. You've been hit for 482....

This number would obliterate any of my ships.

I'm wondering with your WP so low what your Charisma is at?  You could also consider taking a bunch of leadership skills that I'm sure none of us have touched which allow you to give pretty cool buffs to anyone you are in a gang with.  Later down the road this could open up the possibility of flying these crazy support ships that I can't comment on since my fleet battle exp is nil.

[Yegolev]

Behold!  Corn!

Int = 16
Per = 5
Cha = 6
Wil = 9
Mem = 19

Int will be 17 before Sunday, I think.

[Yegolev]

Yeah, "electronics warfare specalist" would be a quick niche to set yourself up in with the skills you've already got.  You're already at electronics IV so it's not too long to V.  A few levels of Electronic Warfare (asusming you're not at IV there too) and you can train everything needed to target, jam, scramble and hurt others for a gang.

Elec Warfare = 2
Electronics = 4
Need more cowbell.

'Course that makes you a huge target too.

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.

[Der Helm]

I noticed a republic fleet (minmatar) station in neesher. could someone enlighten me on what agents are there, before I travel 32 jumps  ?

[Furiously]

I noticed a republic fleet (minmatar) station in neesher. could someone enlighten me on what agents are there, before I travel 32 jumps  ?

There is a level 1 agent in that base and a level 2 one or two systems away.

[Der Helm]

I noticed a republic fleet (minmatar) station in neesher. could someone enlighten me on what agents are there, before I travel 32 jumps  ?

There is a level 1 agent in that base and a level 2 one or two systems away.

Great.

You do not happen to know the type of agent ? Security, Internal Securitiy etc ?

[Furiously]

Security or some kind of kill mission guy.

[Raging Turtle]

I noticed a republic fleet (minmatar) station in neesher. could someone enlighten me on what agents are there, before I travel 32 jumps  ?

There is a level 1 agent in that base and a level 2 one or two systems away.

Great.

You do not happen to know the type of agent ? Security, Internal Securitiy etc ?

The level 1 guy at Neesher is Surveillance. 
Click on maps, run the filter thing, click 'find my agents'.  It'll show you location, quality, and type of all(?) agents available to you.

[Alkiera]

This looks like as good a place to ask as any...  what's with all the different agent types?  I did that map 'show my agents' thing, and there's tons out there... but what kind of missions do they offer?  I mean... a finance agent?  He gonna give me a mission to balance a spreadsheet?

Alkiera

[Yoru]

Different types of agents change the proportions of combat and hauling missions you'll get. If a department doesn't sound combat-y, you'll probably get mostly hauling missions. Administrative agents give about a 50-50 balance.

The mining/astrogeology agents may give missions to go mine up some minerals; I haven't tried them. The manufacturing agents definitely don't give missions to build stuff, they're primarily hauling agents. At least, at levels 1 and 2.

[Yegolev]

I spent some time working for a guy in the Mining division of Astral Mining Co. and the guy just had me do fedex missions.  This was great at first since I have a hotrod Atron, but he started sending me into lowsec and 0.0, and he was level 1.

[Raging Turtle]

Agent types and their missions: http://evegeek.com/, hit agent mission types.

[Yegolev]

That table is depressing.

[5150]

This looks like as good a place to ask as any...  what's with all the different agent types?  I did that map 'show my agents' thing, and there's tons out there... but what kind of missions do they offer?  I mean... a finance agent?  He gonna give me a mission to balance a spreadsheet?

Alkiera

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=110049

[Alkiera]

This looks like as good a place to ask as any...  what's with all the different agent types?  I did that map 'show my agents' thing, and there's tons out there... but what kind of missions do they offer?  I mean... a finance agent?  He gonna give me a mission to balance a spreadsheet?

Alkiera

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=110049

So, no one knows, but it'll prolly be a combination of fedex and kill people.  For financial reasons.  Well, that would be sure to produce amusing dialog, anyway.  Maybe I'll check it out.

Alkiera

[Hoax]

Ok I'm finally @ Neesher, so starting tonight whenever I'm home I'll be pop'ing online to check if there is anything happening.

My Prophecy is currently fitted with 5 heavy beams and a rocket launcher for defender missiles (skilling up missiles is next on my list after working my drone skills up a little bit).  What I'm going to do with the mid slots is up in the air, but my cpu is very very limited at the moment.  I also have a low slot that can fit a third hardener if I so desire (running EM/Therm due to the rats being in Amarr ships) or something else.  So there is still some module juggling I need to do atm.

Really until I get my drone/missile skills up a little as its dangerous currently because the Prophecy makes my Omen seem like an 'ceptor and once anything gets within 8k it is completely under my beams.  I'll run some tests in the nearby systems and post back after I know for sure what types of belt spawns I can clear solo no problem.  Also I need to play with the aforementioned unassigned slots.

[Strazos]

You have an 8k minimum laser range? Ouch.

What's the max range? I generally just let things drift into my max missile range and then turn tail, all the while I am lobbing missiles back at them.

[Hoax]

Oh my max range is 20k+ depending on what crystal I'm using and if the target is painted.  I'm thinking I'll be taking sharp shooter all the way to 4 shortly though.

[Strazos]

20k+ max, AND 8k minimum? Ouch, sounds like a raw deal.

Are you at least fast enough to keep most ships at bay?

[Hoax]

Any NPC frigate is dead within seconds (should only take one volley) if it is outside of 8k, also the tank is so rediculous it would take who knows how many frigs to actually break it.  I'll run the math when I get home for how much dps needs to be done to break it.

Like I said I basically have 3 meds and 1 low to play with, I just haven't figured out what the most pressing needs are atm.  Some serious testing in the belts is scheduled for tonight so I can get a grasp on what I want to fit there.  But versus Bloods (only two damage types) my resists are 110% and ~90% when I turn on the hardeners, I haven't been pressed hard enough by any npc spawns to tell you how long I can run everything with my cap (the cap regen is pretty crazy if I equip two of the +20% regen -10% shield regen mods).  I carry Gamma and Xray crystals at all times which give me 28 and 26k optimal respectively.  I can always equip a MWD to get my speed up to a respectable 625 but like I said the setup isn't really designed to kite as much as kill as many little things as possible then tank whatever is left over while I smash the cruiser-sized targets.

[Alkiera]

Any NPC frigate is dead within seconds (should only take one volley) if it is outside of 8k, also the tank is so rediculous it would take who knows how many frigs to actually break it.  I'll run the math when I get home for how much dps needs to be done to break it.

Like I said I basically have 3 meds and 1 low to play with, I just haven't figured out what the most pressing needs are atm.  Some serious testing in the belts is scheduled for tonight so I can get a grasp on what I want to fit there.  But versus Bloods (only two damage types) my resists are 110% and ~90% when I turn on the hardeners, I haven't been pressed hard enough by any npc spawns to tell you how long I can run everything with my cap (the cap regen is pretty crazy if I equip two of the +20% regen -10% shield regen mods).  I carry Gamma and Xray crystals at all times which give me 28 and 26k optimal respectively.  I can always equip a MWD to get my speed up to a respectable 625 but like I said the setup isn't really designed to kite as much as kill as many little things as possible then tank whatever is left over while I smash the cruiser-sized targets.

Holy crap, what kind of damage are you doing to those poor frigates?

Admittedly, I can one-shot 3k rats with the missiles on my frigate, but they're really puny.  Anything higher takes all the damage from 2 missiles, or more.

(did some research)

Ah.  7x Heavy beam Laser I with those crystals would put out a lot of damage, yes.  something like 20-22 each, before damage mods from the ship and skills.  So pushing 150 damage from one volley... yeah, that'll put a hurting on most little frigate rats.

Are you sure about the 8k thing?  The info on the weapon says it has 'accuracy falloff' at 8km, but what that exactly means, I'm not sure.

Alkiera

[MahrinSkel]

http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g26.asp

Check that for more than you ever wanted to know about exactly how the combat algorithms work, including what "optimum" and "accuracy falloff" mean in practice (optimal is 100% hits ignoring other factors, optimal + falloff is 50%).  There is no minimum range per se, but for moving targets you may not be able to keep your guns on them if they are too close or too fast.

--Dav e

[Alkiera]

http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g26.asp

Check that for more than you ever wanted to know about exactly how the combat algorithms work, including what "optimum" and "accuracy falloff" mean in practice (optimal is 100% hits ignoring other factors, optimal + falloff is 50%).  There is no minimum range per se, but for moving targets you may not be able to keep your guns on them if they are too close or too fast.

--Dav e

Thanks, Dave.  What you said was all I needed to know.  (I'm a mechanics junkie, I grasp such things quickly)  I may check out that link eventually, tho.

Alkiera

[Yegolev]

http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g26.asp

Thanks, Dave, I need to browse eve-online in IE more often.  That link makes me love this game even more, and even makes me want to spend some more time with combat.  It's what I thought should be happening but I didn't understand the game terminology.

On topic, I am almost ready to start hauling my accumulated belongings to Neesher.  If anyone wants to help, that would be awesome, but not required.  I have a ship with +1000m³ cargo now, and a cruiser-grade AB I foound somewhere, so I'll get it all moved eventually.

[Strazos]

I donated a Badger to the corp at some point, it has 3000+ cargo room if I remember correctly.

I have no idea where it is at the moment. 

[Viin]

It's in Neesher. Apparently our corp mates aren't very excited about driving a industrial ship around. 

[Strazos]

I fucking hate the idea of flying that damn thing...

But sometimes, it's the best way to go. If you got tons of shit to move, just use autopilot with the thing and watch a DVD or something.

Playing EVE windowed is your friend.

[WayAbvPar]

Yeah, once every week or two I plan to pack up all the stuff I think I can sell for big money into my Iteron and make a trip to Jita. Put it all on the market, pick up any hard to find items I might need, then set a safe course back to Neesher and take a nap.

[Yegolev]

I donated a Badger to the corp at some point, it has 3000+ cargo room if I remember correctly.

I have no idea where it is at the moment. 

I know where it is: "outside my skillset".  I'll just make several trips.  Unless you have an Iteron handy; even then I will need to buy the skill and train it to lv 1, but that shouldn't be hard.

[Hoax]

Yeah, once every week or two I plan to pack up all the stuff I think I can sell for big money into my Iteron and make a trip to Jita. Put it all on the market, pick up any hard to find items I might need, then set a safe course back to Neesher and take a nap.

I think I'm going to have to go pick up my Tormentor for just that purpose, also going to need to buy another Bestower my old one (which was fitted with 4 AB's from the good old days) got blown to shit when I forgot I had set autopilot to fastest route who cares about sec rating.

The Golden Nugget how I miss it... 

[Furiously]

Yeah, once every week or two I plan to pack up all the stuff I think I can sell for big money into my Iteron and make a trip to Jita. Put it all on the market, pick up any hard to find items I might need, then set a safe course back to Neesher and take a nap.

I think I'm going to have to go pick up my Tormentor for just that purpose, also going to need to buy another Bestower my old one (which was fitted with 4 AB's from the good old days) got blown to shit when I forgot I had set autopilot to fastest route who cares about sec rating.

The Golden Nugget how I miss it... 

I figure my ship the great "Cargo Container" has saved me at least once or given me an extra second or two at camped gates.

[WayAbvPar]

I donated a Badger to the corp at some point, it has 3000+ cargo room if I remember correctly.

I have no idea where it is at the moment. 

I know where it is: "outside my skillset".  I'll just make several trips.  Unless you have an Iteron handy; even then I will need to buy the skill and train it to lv 1, but that shouldn't be hard.

I have an Iteron in Neesher you can borrow if you need it. Just holler at me in game.

[Yegolev]

I have an Iteron in Neesher you can borrow if you need it. Just holler at me in game.

Will do, once I make the first haul.  I won't smoke in it.

[Furiously]

Road Trip11!1!!111!!!!