Xbox 360, Bundles, and Delayed Releases.

[Shockeye]

Go buy a GeForce 7800GTX, you'll be better off.

Buy a 7800GT instead. Nearly the same performance for a lower price.

[Strazos]

I refuse to step foot into Gamestop again after I noted the fact that their PC games "section" is literally a 5'X3' island off in the corner of the store.  Go fuck yourselves, I guess I'll head off to Best Buy or CompUSA.

I think they've moved the PC section ont a few racks in the middle of the store; It's not even on the wall anymore. 

[MrHat]

Go buy a GeForce 7800GTX, you'll be better off.

Buy a 7800GT instead. Nearly the same performance for a lower price.

Isn't that more expensive than an Xbox360 advanced or whatever they're calling it?

What? You can't afford $1200?

http://gamestop.com/product.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1&product%5Fid=B020253C

Can you ride it like a motorbike?

[Shockeye]

Go buy a GeForce 7800GTX, you'll be better off.

Buy a 7800GT instead. Nearly the same performance for a lower price.

Isn't that more expensive than an Xbox360 advanced or whatever they're calling it?

$395.00 at Newegg.

[Big Gulp]

I cannot fathom you people who'll pay that kind of money for a video card.  I've never paid more than $100 for a card, and everyone I've bought has had a lifespan of at least 2 years.  Hell, my GF FX 5200 still plays everything I throw at it (maybe not necessarily with all the details turned up), the only real limitation being that it's only got 128 megs of RAM.

Shit, just buy the best card currently available for aroun $100 and be done with it.

[stray]

I used to be the same way, but I've since upped my limit to $200. It's not a bad compromise.

[MrHat]

I used to be the same way, but I've since upped my limit to $200. It's not a bad compromise.

Yup, that's about where I stand.  God damn piece of shit Ti4600 should still work.

[Shockeye]

I used to be the same way, but I've since upped my limit to $200. It's not a bad compromise.

Yup, that's about where I stand.  God damn piece of shit Ti4600 should still work.

You're a dreamer, aren't you?

[Alkiera]

I used to be the same way, but I've since upped my limit to $200. It's not a bad compromise.

Yup, that's about where I stand.  God damn piece of shit Ti4600 should still work.

You're a dreamer, aren't you?

I spend $150-200 every 3 years or so on my video card, usually around the time things start coming out that simply will not run on my older card.  And hey, I have a friend who plays CoH with a GF4 TI4x00...  she has a bit more video lag than the rest of us, but it's still playable.

Alkiera

[MrHat]

Everything but BF2 works fine.  Not stellar, just fine.

[Rasix]

Heh, anyone got an old vid card they're going to trash?  I need one to rule that out as why the hell my computer is busted.   I know mine's bad, just don't know if I want to spend money on a whim where other crap could still be busted.

Damn I hate computer hardware... and I still hate you Xbox 360.

[Trippy]

I used to be the same way, but I've since upped my limit to $200. It's not a bad compromise.

Yup, that's about where I stand.  God damn piece of shit Ti4600 should still work.

Your POS Ti4600 still has more pixel pushing power than most of the "budget" video cards these days (it's substantially faster than Big Gulp's 5200, for example). The problem with it is it doesn't fully support DirectX 9.0 and lazy ass companies like EA won't support earlier pixel shader versions on the PC for games like BF2  even though they did it for the fricking Xbox version.

[Morfiend]

No offence BG but the 5200 is the most worthless piece of crap in a box ever.

[stray]

Heh, anyone got an old vid card they're going to trash?  I need one to rule that out as why the hell my computer is busted.   I know mine's bad, just don't know if I want to spend money on a whim where other crap could still be busted.

Damn I hate computer hardware... and I still hate you Xbox 360.

Well, I posted in the EQII forum a couple weeks ago that I'm getting rid of some cards. Schild has the better of the 4 on it's way. Next step below that is a 5200. The others are a 4200 (same as the 4600, but with only 64MB) and a Radeon 7500 (pretty worthless at this point in time).

[Trippy]

Just in case the $1200 Gamestop Ultimate Bundle was not enough for you they now have their $2000 Omega Bundle.

[schild]

I don't have the words for that. And to think that I'm interviewing to manage one of those stores next week. *gasp* *cough* *wheeze* *spit blood* *leak grey matter*

That faceplate is really goddamn ugly.

[Alkiera]

Those lists of packed-in games looks a lot like a list of launch titles.

Alkiera

[MahrinSkel]

You realize what's going on here, don't you?  What happened at the last set of console launches?  The first shipments were sold out within days, and then people were buying them off of eBay for 50-100% more than retail.  EB/Gamestop is betting that Walmart, Amazon, etc., are going to sell out quickly, and then when the 14 year-olds are whining at their parents about their heads exploding if they don't get a XBox 360 right *now*, the choice will be between the bare-bones system on eBay for $600-1000, or these bundles with all of the games.  Sure, the games will mostly suck, but what they'll see is "$800 for the eBay machine, which may be used or broken, and then a couple of hundred more for new games, or $800 for a new system still in the box with 5 games worth $60 each?"

--Dave

[Sky]

That would be where the anger and outrage comes from, Mahrin. Blatant money grab on aisle 7.

[WindupAtheist]

I played WoW on a GeForce 2 MX400.  Oh, and with only half the "minimum" amount of RAM.  Capitals were a bit laggy, but otherwise I was fine.

[HaemishM]

Just in case the $1200 Gamestop Ultimate Bundle was not enough for you they now have their $2000 Omega Bundle.

Holy shit. I think someone from Microsoft just tried to steal my wallet out of my back pocket through my urethra with a catheter and a vaccum pump.

Without lube. Or even a good handjob.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU MONEY-GRUBBING COCKSHEATHES? YOU PEOPLE ARE SHITGUZZLING FORESKINS.

Needless to say, unless someone is buying it for me and I don't have to pay a cent, you won't see me buy one of these until they are priced in a sane manner.

[schild]

I think this is just a matter of people thinking EB and Gamestop are sane. They aren't.

Just go buy it at Walmart.

[Shockeye]

Just go buy it at Walmart.

Hold your nose.

[WayAbvPar]

I think this is just a matter of people thinking EB and Gamestop are sane. They aren't.

Just go buy it at Walmart.

I will buy the fucking thing at a garage sale in 2010 before I buy it a Wal*Mart.

[schild]

Then buy it at Best Buy, Circuit City, Target, KMart, KB Toys, FYE, Frye's, Costco, or wherever. Point is, judging the cost via EBGames and Gamestop makes no sense to me.

[Shockeye]

Fry's not Frye's.

Spelling, it's what's for dinner.

[schild]

Fry's not Frye's.

Spelling, it's what's for dinner.

I don't care about the spelling because in conversation I call it "Heaven on Earth."

First place I've ever seen with Resident Evil 2 in stock for the gamecube. I've got to go get that today or tomorrow.

[shiznitz]

Instead of playing on expected scarcity value, why doesn't Microsoft, you know, just make enough to go around. Take the Xbox's first month;s sales and manufacture twice that for the Xbox 360 launch.

[Bunk]

Go buy a GeForce 7800GTX, you'll be better off.

Buy a 7800GT instead. Nearly the same performance for a lower price.

Isn't that more expensive than an Xbox360 advanced or whatever they're calling it?

$395.00 at Newegg.

I'll take the $210.00 Cdn www.atic.ca 6600GT AGP I just bought that didn't require me to replace my motherboard again.


edit - damn nested quotes

[Shockeye]

Yeah, the 6600 GT is a spunky little card.

[stray]

I bought one too, but the BFG overclocked model.

[Brolan]

What happened to the common knowledge that a console MUST cost less than $200 and should be closer to $100? 

Are we watching Microsoft dig their own console grave here?

[Signe]

Are we watching Microsoft dig their own console grave here?

Yeah, right.  That'll be the happy happy joy joy day.

[schild]

What happened to the common knowledge that a console MUST cost less than $200 and should be closer to $100?

It disappeared when the Playstation 2 launched and stores still couldn't keep stock 2 years later. Hell, 4 years later.

Are we watching Microsoft dig their own console grave here?

I don't think Microsoft has ANYTHING to do with the shit Gamestop and EB are pulling. On that note - EB and GS did the same thing with the PSP and no one gave a shit. I'm sure you'll be able to buy a 360 by itself in those stores despite what noobler mcporkrinds said on the phone. This is just to rape the early early early moneybags adoptors. And drug dealers.

[Margalis]

The only role MS plays here is the overpricing of all the components and accessories, which further drives up the prices of bundes.

Games are 60 bucks. Controllers 50. Cords and batteries and shit like that are 30-40. A 20 gig hard drive for $100! Right now you can get a 120GB HD for $20 with rebates! Everything related to XBox is overpriced, so of course the bundles are overpriced as well.

However, bundles are the new thing, and I doubt MS has anything to do with them directly. They are basically a giant fuck you to hardcore gamers - we know you want it early, so you have to pay out the nose.