New Dr. Who Episodes?

[Fraeg]

well Donna =    and I am pretty pissed off that she got left holding the shit end of the stick.

Pretty over the top kitchen sink ending. Though i guess RTD wanted to go out with a bang.

meh suppose I should be polite and hold off a week.

[Merusk]

More like near a month, thanks to Sci-Fi's holiday marathons. 

Hrm... I guess it IS possible for a writer to yank his own pud on international T.V.  I'm pretty sure that's what I just saw.

[Triforcer]

Well, I liked it.  Some awesomely awesome overacting. 

[HaemishM]

I liked the Rose-Doctor resolution, though it was a bit of a cop-out for a happy ending. The Donna thing though? I'm not sure I liked that at all. I dug her character and to see her relegated back to the one thing that absolutely killed her soul... I would have rather the mind-meld killed her than left her without any memories of her time with the Doctor. Maybe it leaves her open for a return, but man that was sad.

I really hope that Mickey joins Torchwood. I like how that character has evolved. The Sarah Jane stuff... meh, I could take or leave her show. It was definitely for kids.

So we have 5 specials with David Tennant released between Christmas '08 and the next season in '10, and a 5-part Torchwood mini-series with Capt. Jack and who knows who else. Does anyone know for sure if Tennant is going to return in 2010 besides Russell Davies and the BBC?

[Triforcer]

I liked the Rose-Doctor resolution, though it was a bit of a cop-out for a happy ending. The Donna thing though? I'm not sure I liked that at all. I dug her character and to see her relegated back to the one thing that absolutely killed her soul... I would have rather the mind-meld killed her than left her without any memories of her time with the Doctor. Maybe it leaves her open for a return, but man that was sad.

Yeah, after thinking about it a little bit, the biggest tragedy of the whole Donna situation is that she went back to being a vapid twit.  I wish she could've at least kept some of the good traits she gained in her travels. 

[Merusk]

That was a large portion of my problem with it.  I saw the whole of the 3 hours as RTD parading his awesomeness before us, practically shouting "Look at everything I've done. I'm fucking AWESOME."  Then giving the Doctor-Donna and resolving Doctor & Rose as a final bit of "ha, still awesome aren't I?"  I could hear the air whipping around his wrist as his hand was a blur of motion at that bit.  Then the final climax, where the moneyshot hits us in the eye with a "FUCK YOU, I'M NOT LETTING ANY OF YOU HAVE THAT, SHITHEELS!"

[Simond]

Hey, look on the bright side - after the specials next year, that's it. No more RTD.

[Evildrider]

Hey, look on the bright side - after the specials next year, that's it. No more RTD.

I thought the RTD era ended with the end of this season. 

[HaemishM]

I hadn't heard that RTD was leaving after the specials. The wikipedia entry talking about whether Tennant will return or not made me think Davies was still going to be in charge of it in 2010.

[Ironwood]

The Specials have already been filmed.  It was RTD who did 'em.

So he's done, but not on the TV yet.  If you see what I mean.

[Triforcer]

I've heard James Nesbitt is tagged as the next Doctor.  ugh. 

[Evildrider]

I thought it was Robert Carlysle?

[HaemishM]

This is the latest story I can find about the fifth series. And it doesn't really tell much of anything. Anyone else got any recent links?

[Signe]

I love James Nesbitt.  And Robert Carlyle.  I wouldn't mind either.

[Ironwood]

The exact same fight, with some similar names, popped out during the first changeover.

I wouldn't worry about it until it happens.

It's hard to fuck up the Doctor.  It's all about the writing.  McCoy and Baker were given shit, shit, shit stories.

(Oh and they sucked mightily acting wise.    )

[NowhereMan]

Still two of my favourite Doctors, I think my mind set of overlooking budget sets extended to the stories and acting. Kind of like filling in the holes in a string vest so I'm left with a nice shirt.

[Slyfeind]

Well I really liked it, but I'm just into RTD's style. I didn't like the Rose resolution, because I believed the Doctor would have done something like that. It's like he wants to be all emo and lonely and whatnot, so he seeks out opportunities to get rid of his companions. I just wanted to smack him, because he could have found an alternate solution if he wanted.

Mickey and Martha should totally join Torchwood. That would rock. I'm not a big fan of the Sarah Jane series, but I loved her involvement in the finale. It was more than the characters meeting; it was the shows themselves. They actually felt like episodes of Sarah Jane or Torchwood, because of the lighting and camera angles and such. Heh. "Mr. Smith, can't you stop with that fanfare?"

The saddest thing for me was, of course, Donna returning to who she was before meeting the Doctor. I really can't see how she can be kept from the truth for too long. Donna's too pernicious. If she doesn't find out eventually, I'll consider that a mistake in characterization. Rose coming back? I wouldn't rule it out.

At the very end, when the Doctor was in the TARDIS, drenched with rain, and slowly looked up...I half-expected him to see a woman in a wedding gown. But he didn't. And that was the best way to end that episode.

[Mrbloodworth]

RTD?

[HaemishM]

Russell T. Davies, series producer and the guy credited with bringing Who back into the spotlight.

[Triforcer]

Russell T. Davies, series producer and the guy credited with bringing Who back into the spotlight.

I don't get the hate of him that some have.  I've liked every single episode I've seen since 2005. 

[HaemishM]

Yeah, me too. The only thing I have against him is an almost pathological attempt to point out that certain characters are bisexual. More apparent on Torchwood than on Dr. Who but still.

[Mrbloodworth]

Russell T. Davies, series producer and the guy credited with bringing Who back into the spotlight.

Ah, ok.. So i'm assuming from the posts here he is no longer with the project?

[Jain Zar]

Yeah.  Many Who fans are like RPG Codex types and insist everything the guy does suck even though he pretty much revived Doctor Who and made it probably the biggest hit it could possibly be in the current way TV shows work.

(Except for RPG Codex they hate Bethesda, which pretty much started the second they announced Fallout 3.)

[Ironwood]

His first series stuff was awesome, but he did become a victim of his own success and believed his own hype.  Most of his later stories were, er, a little off.  The season 2 finale was, in the words of the picture that Somethingawful then made, 'Something Hugely Retarded'.

That was when he lost it.

[Merusk]

My problem with him is outlined above.  Yeah, I liked this Dr. Who, and it's the first one I've watched since the early 90's when PBS re-ran old episodes and I watched it out of a semblance of "needing" to as a sci-fi fan.  The guy was REALLY just into himself for this last episode and it turned me off. 

[Ironwood]

The Dalek one was better than the Master one.

The Master one was a masterpiece of suck.  The first episode was genius.  The second one was so badly written I could have done better by inserting a crayon into my dick and wiggling my hips in front of a large A3 sheet of paper.

[HaemishM]

I disagree with you, both about the Season 2 finale and the Season 3 one. Season 2 was fantastic. Both were better than Season 4.

[Ironwood]

Wait, are you seriously telling me that Dobby Doctor turning into Fucking Tinkerbell and getting the whole world to say 'We BELIEVE IN THE DOCTOR, WE DO, WE DO' and then hitting the fucking temporal reset button was a GOOD ending ?

Are you ?

Because I have a whole bunch of letters on this keyboard to spell Fuck Off with.

[HaemishM]

Spell away.

The Doctor channeling the psyhic energy of an entire world, thanks to the Master's psychic machinery? I wouldn't say it was a brilliant ending, but it wasn't the vortex of suck that you think it was. A bit on the cheesy side, yes, but certainly not the worst I've seen.

[Ironwood]

He flew.  He flew across the room while glowing.

They turned him into Tinkerbell.

 

Anyways....

Davros was great.

[HaemishM]

He's always glowing. Shit, he glowed when he tossed his regeneration into his severed hand. Hell, even DONNA glowed.

[NowhereMan]

He never flew and gained fucking Jedi powers though.

[Engels]

No no no no no Haemish. Really. I know you're working hard to beat the Southern insensitive Hick label attributed to anyone from Mississippi, but really, in this situation, you're just flat out wrong. That ending was beyond excrable.

First and foremost, you do not kill off the Master. Period.
Second, everything Ironwood said, cept with spittle flecking my screen.
Third, stop spending time at Grandma's bingo matches, your getting soft in the head.

[Ironwood]

...and if you're going to at least pretend to kill off the Master, don't STEAL THE WHOLE FUCKING THING FROM FLASH GORDON LIKE SOME FUCKING HACK.

The 'picking up the ring' bit at the end made me groan aloud.

GORDON'S ALIVE ?!

[HaemishM]

I will agree with you about the Master's ring thing. I half-expected him to show up this season.

But, say what you will, I liked the finale of Season 3 about as much as I liked Season 4. Both could have been better, but they could have been a lot lot worse.