She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (Disney+)

[Sky]

He's stuck over in the Venom/Morbius universe at the moment.

Marvel needs to put the inhibitor collar on Sony.

[eldaec]

I'd love to see the bossman be Toomes played by Keaton. He fucking crushed that role and it would be perfectly aligned with stealing tech to use for crimes.

I don't think we get nice things on this level.

[Riggswolfe]

This latest episode was my least favorite of the series. The pacing was off and I didn't really enjoy the story with the magician. He was just extremely obnoxious. It's the first episode I was actually glad when it ended.

[Samwise]

The premise was too kids-cartoon for me.  The idea of a fake magician opening an actual portal to a hell dimension as part of his stage act is cool, but I want there to be actual consequences, or at least the threat of them.  The idea that he regularly sends audience members to hell and they just wander around and find their way back unharmed is stupid.  Wong deciding to sue the guy as opposed to just exacting magical justice is stupid.  The judge saying "I see no harm in this, it's no different from card tricks" in a universe where magic killed half the population of Earth ("I got better!"), and they're talking about copyright law instead of the Sokovia Accords, is stupid.  Drunk girl being constantly drunk and never asleep or hung over is... well, impressive, but also stupid.

I get that they're going for a more cartoony tone with this show, with the fourth wall breaking and all that, but that kind of zaniness works better for me when it's juxtaposed with something that feels more grounded.  Hell, calling it "cartoony" does disservice to the superhero cartoons I grew up with -- people fuckin DIED in those.

[eldaec]

I think the MCU has just sort of forgot the Sokovia accords. Its the sort of thing the comics also regularly forget about.

Maybe they got caught up in the peter parker spell.

I mean, She Hulk herself appears to be ignoring them for a start.

[Velorath]

I think the MCU has just sort of forgot the Sokovia accords. Its the sort of thing the comics also regularly forget about.

Maybe they got caught up in the peter parker spell.

I mean, She Hulk herself appears to be ignoring them for a start.

Well the Sokovia accords shouldn't need to exist in the first place because vigilante justice is already against the law

That said, "remember the time superheroes brought back half of the life in the universe" may have been enough to get the Accords done away with.

[Khaldun]

It was a somewhat half-assed version of a Doctor Strange issue (#65!) called "Charlatan". In it, there's a stage magician who has been saying some bullshit incantation for more than a decade that he happened to hear from a drunk who actually knew a bit of real magic. Strange gets called to the guy's performance because of a weird family connection and he realizes in a panic that the guy's incantation is actually going to imminently open a portal to a hellish dimension, not in this performance but soon because of how long he's been saying it. He tries to convince the guy to cut it out and his thug slugs Strange upside the head, giving him a concussion.

Strange comes back to the next performance disguised as his sort-of-girlfriend's father, determined to stop the guy before it gets out of hand, and he fails because of the concussion--he can't focus enough. The guy succeeds in the incantation, monsters come through to attack the socialites at the performance, and Strange is only barely able to close the portal. He erases everybody's memory except the fake magician--he just takes away that guy's memory of the incantation but he leaves him with the horrible memory of the demons that came through as a punishment.

So the mood is not so light-hearted.

I guess you could argue that at this point the Sokovia people have just plain given up--the Snap might have convinced them that trying to stuff superpowers back into the bin is a pointless exercise. There's some reason to think that they've moved on to "we need our own supers" from "we have to keep supers under control".

[schild]

The sokovia accords we're terrible for cinema and only needed to exist for one movie.

So

[Samwise]

I don't give a fuck about the Sokovia Accords specifically.  At this point in the timeline, saying "well there's nothing in the rulebook that SAYS a dog can't play basketball" when confronted with a guy who's doing actual magical shit is dumb.

[Threash]

Drunk girls adventures in whatever hell dimension she ended up in would've made a better episode. I did enjoy it even if it doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

[Velorath]

I don't give a fuck about the Sokovia Accords specifically.  At this point in the timeline, saying "well there's nothing in the rulebook that SAYS a dog can't play basketball" when confronted with a guy who's doing actual magical shit is dumb.

Here in the real world we can't even get strong gun laws enacted despite the frequency of mass shootings, so yeah it's not hard for me to imagine the law being slow to catch up to regulating magic and superpowers.

[Khaldun]

Drunk girl could turn out to be a Chekov gun, I suppose.

What would be really hilarious is if She-Hulk fourth-walled it and said "I bet you think she made a deal with Mephisto and at last he's going to show up. Nope! It was just some no-name demon."

[Samwise]

His name was Jake, duh.

[schild]

The goat was shown with a name tag in the credits.

[schild]

This show can't miss.

[Threash]

The batsuit with nipples, fucking perfect.

[Khaldun]

Fun once again. I had to freeze-frame the helmet a couple of times to realize that it was Daredevil's bad yellow-suit helmet.

Pug's shoe collection feels like a vague nod to one of the fun features of Dan Slott's She-Hulk run, which was that the "law library" for the Super-Human Law Office in the firm was a complete set of Marvel comics (which are canonically published in the 616 Universe as authorized adaptations of the actual adventures of the superheroes) and that Jen Walters, Pug and Mallory Book end up using what's in the comic books to make claims about legal precedents (including ownership of superhero names as intellectual property).

It's too bad that they can't easily adapt the absolute best Slott story, which is Spider-Man suing J. Jonah Jameson for libel; She-Hulk has to pass the case to Pug because she has a conflict of interest (she's dating Jameson's son). Pug is heading for a big win and he decides to expand the lawsuit to include Peter Parker for having fraudulently created photographs that helped Jameson to libel Spider-Man, and so Spider-Man has to tell Pug to settle the case without financial damages. (Jameson and Parker have to wear chicken suits for a day while handing out copies of the Bugle where the front page story is an apology to Spider-Man for false accusations.)

[schild]

It's too bad that they can't easily adapt the absolute best Slott story, which is Spider-Man suing J. Jonah Jameson for libel; She-Hulk has to pass the case to Pug because she has a conflict of interest (she's dating Jameson's son). Pug is heading for a big win and he decides to expand the lawsuit to include Peter Parker for having fraudulently created photographs that helped Jameson to libel Spider-Man, and so Spider-Man has to tell Pug to settle the case without financial damages. (Jameson and Parker have to wear chicken suits for a day while handing out copies of the Bugle where the front page story is an apology to Spider-Man for false accusations.)

nor should they, this sounds like a shitass throwaway gag that would be dreadful on film

[Sky]

Also, why wouldn't PP continue the suit knowing it would still impact JJJ, and PP would just be paying himself (via S-M)? Dumb.

[Tebonas]

Or just tell his lawyer he doesn't want to include Peter Parker in the lawsuit because he was just a photographer that had no influence on how his photos were used and he therefore would feel bad to sue him too?

Its moronic to write a story where the lawyer extends a lawsuit on his own without consulting the client. Lets hope the series never walks anywhere near this idiotic plotline.

[Riggswolfe]

Also, why wouldn't PP continue the suit knowing it would still impact JJJ, and PP would just be paying himself (via S-M)? Dumb.

I haven't read it but I'd assume the problem is that Spiderman was already sitting in court next to his lawyer so there was no way that Peter Parker could be called as a witness.

[Khaldun]

That's pretty much it--Pug is questioning Spider-Man and he moves into questioning about Parker and Spider-Man is forced to concede that Parker's pictures were staged or untrue (which is both true and important to his case against Jameson) so Pug moves that Parker be added to the complaint. So Spider-Man can't undo the testimony without saying he perjured himself and can only tell Pug to settle the case for something other than financial damages. It's a funny story.

[schild]

this shit can't stop delivering

[Pennilenko]

this shit can't stop delivering

Agreed. It's a pretty much perfect 23 minutes each episode.

[Surlyboi]

“I’m hurtin’ for a yurtin’”

[Riggswolfe]

This last episode may be my favorite in the series. But damn Jen can't catch a break in her love-life. As someone who hasn't really read She-Hulk I have no idea if this is a theme in the comics too.

[HaemishM]

They seem to be pulling heavily from the Dan Slott series of comics. The only steady boyfriend I ever remember was when she was a member of the Fantastic Four, she dated Wyatt Wingfoot for a time.

[Khaldun]

She got married to J. Jonah Jameson's son (who was a magical wolfman also) but that kind of turned out to be mind-control. Sort of.

[Surlyboi]

Good episode. Can’t wait for the finale.

[Typhon]

Really good

[Samwise]

Some great minor villains in this episode.  The frog dude was straight out of The Tick (the good 90s one).

and
just fucking killed me.

[Threash]

At 1:23 you can see the motherfucking Frog Man and that is the greatest thing ever put in an MCU property.

I'll settle for his son, even though I have an actual frogman action figure.

[Surlyboi]

[HaemishM]

I am so sad this season is coming to an end. I have absolutely loved every episode, and this was my favorite. Daredevil was great, Charlie Cox really seemed to relish being allowed to smile and have fun with the character. I loved the new classic-colored suit.

[Threash]

That just took it to a whole other level. Amazing ending to a great season.