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							Yeah, this was just perfect. I would say almost perfect.   I would give it a 9.5 out of 10. Honestly, the only thing that felt "off" was   Everything else in the whole thing though?  Totally nailed it.    
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							Yeah, this was just perfect. I would say almost perfect.   I would give it a 9.5 out of 10. Honestly, the only thing that felt "off" was   Everything else in the whole thing though?  Totally nailed it.    
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							I enjoyed the movie overall. The crowd for the movie on the other hand was a bit annoying. Had a lady that was audibly cheering on all the big reveals which got old pretty quickly.
 
  
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							Waited half a year for marvel to make a good movie. Instead I ended up waiting for a great movie. More of that please     
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							Yeah, this was just perfect. I would say almost perfect.   I would give it a 9.5 out of 10. Honestly, the only thing that felt "off" was   Everything else in the whole thing though?  Totally nailed it.    
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							I enjoyed the movie overall. The crowd for the movie on the other hand was a bit annoying. Had a lady that was audibly cheering on all the big reveals which got old pretty quickly.
 
 
  Nearly the entire theater was cheering where I saw it.  Would probably have been annoying if it was only one person but it was hard not to get swept up in the excitement a little when it was the entire sold out crowd.  
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							I enjoyed the movie overall. The crowd for the movie on the other hand was a bit annoying. Had a lady that was audibly cheering on all the big reveals which got old pretty quickly.
 
 
  Nearly the entire theater was cheering where I saw it.  Would probably have been annoying if it was only one person but it was hard not to get swept up in the excitement a little when it was the entire sold out crowd. There was 20 people in the theatre when I went. The crowd cheered on maybe 4 or 5 of the reveals. And it was more than those points honestly this lady was talking out loud to herself throughout the movie. It was odd....  
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							It was very good. Fun. I was sort of hoping 
  I do like that Strange has more or less gone back to being an arrogant dickbag, with the consequences of that apparently on their way.  
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							Holland-Spider-Man still had his webshooters after Strange pulled his magic shooter back, so I don't think it changed the webshooters at all--it was a separate magical tech. 
 
  
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							These, by the way, are nits in relative terms, but they come with the territory when you do the plot device they just did; the Strange movie may or may not deal with these issues. We will see.
  On the other hand,
 
  
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							Pretty much. Hopefully the Strange movie will move the ball a little. Doesn't help much with the long-standing (imho annoying) take on Strange that his powers are perilously undefined and thus need to be defined more.
  Though the one bone I'd throw there is that the teleportation circle things are way way way way way too fucking powerful.
  
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							One fun nerd conversation afterwards that we had was,  
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							Regarding the speculation about the end of the movie:
 
  
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							This already broke a billion and its been like ten days, it hasn't even been released in China and several other countries. That would be impressive even before COVID. 
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							Finally got around to this.
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							Finally got around to this after finally watching Loki after finally finishing Winter Soldier.
  This is the first post Endgame MCU thing that actually got me to care completely while watching. The rest has been like the filler arc of a shounen anime after 40+ eps, I don't want to miss out on any new characters or plot points but I wish I could just skip.
  It shouldn't surprise me as Holland Spiderman has been my favorite not RDJ MCU character since jump but it still surprised me.   
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							Shame the ending was fuckin stupid trash. 
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							Lol nah
  
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							The ending didn't have mary jane 360 no-scoping green goblin out the sky so its automatically trash     
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							the ending gave us another "poor" avenger who was totally removed from the MCU at large despite being positioned to literally take over for rdj
  it was *extremely* bad and made it so we had a modicum of glue in the MCU to absolutely zero glue where everyone is just fucking about getting nothing meaningful done, including strange and thor
  as it stands, the movie with the most ramifications seems to be god damned Shang-Chi - which is absurd
  So yeah, in the confines of the MCU, the ending was shit. 
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							I like that it got Peter to a sort of "normal state" for Spider-Man--the guilt, the sense of living under an unlucky star, the sense that nobody knows who he is even in his own community of super-heroes and they aren't always sure whether to trust him. I sort of wish it hadn't been "magic memory wipe" for all the reasons I nerded out about before--that kind of shit just can't last and it becomes a story-telling problem almost immediately.
  
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							 I like that it got Peter to a sort of "normal state" for Spider-Man--the guilt, the sense of living under an unlucky star, the sense that nobody knows who he is even in his own community of super-heroes and they aren't always sure whether to trust him. I sort of wish it hadn't been "magic memory wipe" for all the reasons I nerded out about before--that kind of shit just can't last and it becomes a story-telling problem almost immediately.
 
  I can't condone all the plotholes the memory wipe story creates but I'm not mad at the overall result. So hmm I'm going with it, since spiderman has so far been the only thing post end-game that actually has some A+ quality behind it and wasn't made with Marvels B or C team...    
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							the ending gave us another "poor" avenger who was totally removed from the MCU at large despite being positioned to literally take over for rdj
  it was *extremely* bad and made it so we had a modicum of glue in the MCU to absolutely zero glue where everyone is just fucking about getting nothing meaningful done, including strange and thor
  as it stands, the movie with the most ramifications seems to be god damned Shang-Chi - which is absurd
  So yeah, in the confines of the MCU, the ending was shit.
  It gave us comic book Peter Parker in essence which fixes one of the few complaints a lot of people had about the Tom Holland Spiderman that being that he was basically mini-Iron Man instead of Spiderman.  
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							he was basically mini-Iron Man instead of Spiderman.
  You can't say this kind of thing to a man who's still grieving.  
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							he was basically mini-Iron Man instead of Spiderman.
  You can't say this kind of thing to a man who's still grieving. we love him 3000   
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							If it weren't for the amazing casting of Holland as Friendly Neighborhood version, I think slotting Iron Spider into the Stark spot in the MCU makes better sense than a 'new Iron Man'. Genius kid, Stark left him $$$$, anonymity from Strange, etc. Then have Miles Morales be the neighborhood version of Spidey. Or even trot out Gwen (but probably not 3000 because that defeats the purpose of street-level spidey).
  On the other hand, I think Holland would also nail the Iron Spider thing, too. It's where I was hoping they were taking things. 
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							I think that's basically Ironheart, when she appears. 
  
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							If it weren't for the amazing casting of Holland as Friendly Neighborhood version, I think slotting Iron Spider into the Stark spot in the MCU makes better sense than a 'new Iron Man'. Genius kid, Stark left him $$$$, anonymity from Strange, etc. Then have Miles Morales be the neighborhood version of Spidey. Or even trot out Gwen (but probably not 3000 because that defeats the purpose of street-level spidey).
  On the other hand, I think Holland would also nail the Iron Spider thing, too. It's where I was hoping they were taking things.
  Honestly, I'd love to see a live-action version of Gwen if it was done right. It'd be great as a series which sadly won't happen unless Sony and Disney get even closer.  I think that's basically Ironheart, when she appears. 
 
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							They are working on it now but it hasn’t been scheduled yet. Probably 2nd half 2023 if no delays.
  
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							Ironheart is also going to be in Wakanda Forever which comes out in November. 
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