Lost Ark

[SurfD]

debating between Lancer / Bard with maybe gunner as a distant 3rd for my second toon.   Wardancer is decent, but still not sold on mele combat in boss fights.  Figure Bard would be in stupid high demand down the road for difficult content.

Anyone got any kind of list on the unreleased classes that Korean has?  I know it's really easy to make alts in this game due to Power Pass/Knowledge transfer, but I hear there are some pretty neat new classes in KR that might be worth saving the quick access pass for.

[Falconeer]

Not a list, but a good video at that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijmMnOiYbko

[SurfD]

is there any point in buying / crafting the Tier 1 Epic / Legendary sets and honing them up? Or just take your initial blue shit right through to T2 stuff?

[Trippy]

Honing the legendary gear is optional. You can hone the blue stuff that starts 302 to +15 (should be at 600 at that point) to get to the start Tier 2.

[Falconeer]

I have only recently noticed the AByssal Crafter witth the Epic sets. It is worth it to transfer your Blue weapons honing to the Epic sets because they provide an insane +10% Damage and +8 Attack Speed. You pay with coins from two AByssal dungeons which are not used for anything else, so yes do it.

[SurfD]

Think I have most of the basics figured out now.

Almost at 460 with 2 pieces of the Epic crafted set, most processes seem fairly straight forward.   Still trying to figure out a good build for my Wardancer, but I think I have a fair handle on the Honing / Dungeons / World Events / Sailing stuff now.

[Setanta]

You know what I like about this game? I can't work out the currencies, can't work out how to get the blue gems for the skins in the shop... and therefore have no idea how to spend money on this game :D

[Falconeer]

I am telling you, it's demented. And eventually what will mark the end of my time with the game, which is getting nearer and nearer. To keep progressing you need "gold", which can be farmed in minor quantities capped daily, or bought for real money. Since you need gold to keep progressing in the game (item level) and your progress can literally fail and burn gold when you try to increase your item level through the only way, which is enhancing, you could work for a day, do your dailies, earn a little bit of gold, try your enhancing, fail it, and poof your gold is gone and you literally "worked" for a day for nothing.  Fuck them.

[Soulflame]

I don't see how this is more bullshit than stone faceting.  In fact it might be less bullshit.

[Trippy]

You know what I like about this game? I can't work out the currencies, can't work out how to get the blue gems for the skins in the shop... and therefore have no idea how to spend money on this game :D

You asked about this before and I replied back then. So if you do want to know how this works you can read it here:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=26279.msg1564405#msg1564405

[Hoax]

don't spend money. Buy the one-time chest thing, that's super good value. Besides that just don't spend real $$$ on honing mats as you'll feel entitled to get good results but it'll still be a dice roll.

[Ashamanchill]

You know what I like about this game? I can't work out the currencies, can't work out how to get the blue gems for the skins in the shop... and therefore have no idea how to spend money on this game :D

Have to agree with you there. Every now and then, frustration, or the excitement of a new build, or some cool shit held hostage behind a cash donation, causes me to spend something on a game. But I opened up this shop, couldn't decypher a thing, and closed it knowing they aren't getting a penny out of me. Not even out of pique. Out of pure confusion as to what the fuck I was looking at.

[Setanta]

You know what I like about this game? I can't work out the currencies, can't work out how to get the blue gems for the skins in the shop... and therefore have no idea how to spend money on this game :D

You asked about this before and I replied back then. So if you do want to know how this works you can read it here:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=26279.msg1564405#msg1564405

I saw that post thanks - my post was a tad tongue in cheek. If I could pay $$ for skins, I'd do it in a heartbeat. But it just feels counter intuitive to do the conversion etc. It's just easier not to buy things. I keep looking for ways to repay a games dev for a game I enjoy, Warframe is a perfect example of this.

[Trippy]

Warframe works basically the same way, if you ignore Tennogen on Steam for PC. You buy the premium in-game currency Platinum with real-world money and use Platinum to buy certain things in the game and in-game store items including skins.

[Setanta]

Warframe works basically the same way, if you ignore Tennogen on Steam for PC. You buy the premium in-game currency Platinum with real-world money and use Platinum to buy certain things in the game and in-game store items including skins.

I either sell items to get plat in game or buy a prime package. Then I make the plat from that tide me over. I could grind for the frames, but don't hate the donations to the devs to keep the game going. Plat is the universal currency (excluding tennogen)

In LA, its buy convert, convert to something else etc. It's convoluted. Having said that, I did buy the founders pack. Financially, that was straightforward.

[Falconeer]

Destroyer class coming in April. Arcanist class coming in May.

Amazon shared a roadmap for the next few months, which shows a lot of new stuff coming, but they had to remove it a few hours later for unknown reasons.

https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/lost-ark-roadmap-leaks-early-pulled-for-adjustments

[Hoax]

Destroyer is a retarded pos class so shame they opted to put him first of all the mia ones. Arcane is stylish and cool though completely overshadowed by Sorc I fear.

[Falconeer]

The only one I am looking forward to actually play is the Painter (Artist?). I really like the look of those paint brush attacks.

[Draegan]

is there any point in buying / crafting the Tier 1 Epic / Legendary sets and honing them up? Or just take your initial blue shit right through to T2 stuff?

You get 302 gear from Chaos Dungeon/Quest once you ding 50.
You hone every piece up to +15 and then you unlock Tier 2.
Do whatever zone needed to unlock new tier.
Transfer the +15 item to the new blues you get for a free +1.

Don't hone over +15.

Also doing Abyssal Dungeons gets you currency for Blue>Purple>Legendary gear. It's just more stats. You don't need it, but it's pretty cheap. Once you buy them, transfer over your previous state to keep the honing level.

[Draegan]

I am telling you, it's demented. And eventually what will mark the end of my time with the game, which is getting nearer and nearer. To keep progressing you need "gold", which can be farmed in minor quantities capped daily, or bought for real money. Since you need gold to keep progressing in the game (item level) and your progress can literally fail and burn gold when you try to increase your item level through the only way, which is enhancing, you could work for a day, do your dailies, earn a little bit of gold, try your enhancing, fail it, and poof your gold is gone and you literally "worked" for a day for nothing.  Fuck them.

I'm 2ish upgrades from 1340 and I haven't spent anything on the game outside of a founders pack. It just takes time. Best way to do it is just level up an army of alts to the same tier as your main so you can feed them mats from Chaos Dungeons and GRs. Sell the leapstones from the GRs on the market for a ton of gold if you want.

Do Rifts and sell the mats
Do Treasure Maps in groups of 4 (everyone has one) and you get a shit ton of mats that you can either use or sell.

The game is also missing quite a few systems that are in KR/RU that help with additional mats with weekly resets.

[Draegan]

I don't see how this is more bullshit than stone faceting.  In fact it might be less bullshit.

You can't fail down levels. Items don't break on a random chance. Much less bullshit which I'm happy with. Plenty of collections and shit to do in this game.

[Soulflame]

Yeah.  Which you need a 3rd party website to locate.  That's also "fun".

[Hoax]

Just bothered to do the first adventurer tome for skill point zone, easiest (50%) one in Shushire. I got there at the start of the 3rd zone, did not take long, had to be there anyways for the Shushire MSQ on an alt.

https://lost-ark.maxroll.gg/resources/shushire-adventure-tome

Use this, its not that bad. I don't even have dual monitor setup.  

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How are people enjoying pvp on the classes they have tried? What seems strong/bad? So far I just can't handle how Sorc gets to cast so fast, its completely bullshit oh and let's give them the best dash seemingly? The fuck? Everything else seems fine. The tornado skill of one of the MA classes is annoying but its all down to player skill. Except sorc players they are fucking drooling morons.

Trying to enjoy it before Destroyer comes out, the most retarded unga bunga class design in Lost Ark.

[Setanta]

I really don't play MMOs for PvP. Destint 2 when the fuckjng game forces me to ... and that's it.

[Falconeer]

I have a Gunslinger and a Scrapper for PvP and I play it a lot. But I am terrible, no actually I am TERRIBLE at mouse movement and so I have never been this bad at any PvP game ever. So in short, I can't comment on any class as the only sure thing here is that I am the worst player in every match. I'll keep trying though.

[Draegan]

Yeah.  Which you need a 3rd party website to locate.  That's also "fun".

So?

[Soulflame]

Yeah.  Which you need a 3rd party website to locate.  That's also "fun".

So?

An integral part of the game requires you to have a third party website up to locate items that would be, at best, very difficult to find.  We're talking having to walk the entire perimeter of every zone, testing for walk through walls/rocks, destructible rocks, and hoverable clickables.

I don't see how that is fun or immersive at all.

[Draegan]

Yeah.  Which you need a 3rd party website to locate.  That's also "fun".

So?

An integral part of the game requires you to have a third party website up to locate items that would be, at best, very difficult to find.  We're talking having to walk the entire perimeter of every zone, testing for walk through walls/rocks, destructible rocks, and hoverable clickables.

I don't see how that is fun or immersive at all.

You never used a strategy guide for a game?

[Soulflame]

My general approach to games is to play them as unspoiled as possible, and look at guides for things I am stuck on.

Which is a far cry from "I had been through Proudholme 3x and found almost none of the adventure tome items in it."

[SurfD]

An integral part of the game requires you to have a third party website up to locate items that would be, at best, very difficult to find.  We're talking having to walk the entire perimeter of every zone, testing for walk through walls/rocks, destructible rocks, and hoverable clickables.

I don't see how that is fun or immersive at all.

Wait till you get to the T2 zones and half the Moko seeds are locked behind Song and Virtue gates.

[SurfD]

Is there much functional difference between the Deadeye and Gunsligner (male and female versions)?

Thinking of giving one of them a spin as an alt, but not sure which to pick.

I believe the male one has the Class Inscription that basically locks you to just the pistol, while the Female one is more stance dancey, but are they roughly similar in overall performance?

[Soulflame]

An integral part of the game requires you to have a third party website up to locate items that would be, at best, very difficult to find.  We're talking having to walk the entire perimeter of every zone, testing for walk through walls/rocks, destructible rocks, and hoverable clickables.

I don't see how that is fun or immersive at all.

Wait till you get to the T2 zones and half the Moko seeds are locked behind Song and Virtue gates.

That's actually a thing in the first zone/continent.  There's at least 2-3 seeds locked behind songs.  One of vines, one of discovery, IIRC.

[Trippy]

Is there much functional difference between the Deadeye and Gunsligner (male and female versions)?

Thinking of giving one of them a spin as an alt, but not sure which to pick.

I believe the male one has the Class Inscription that basically locks you to just the pistol, while the Female one is more stance dancey, but are they roughly similar in overall performance?

Deadeye the best non-pistol weapon is the shotgun. For Gunslinger it’s the rifle, For positional DPS engraving Deadeye is back attack while Gunslinger is “side” attack (not front or back). Basically Deadeye is harder to play cause they need to be closer if going for shotgun build and require more positioning (back is harder than side). In Korea Deadeye is basically the least popular class while Gunslinger is 2nd behind Bard.

[Falconeer]

This could be a spoiler but it deserves to be seen.

At some point in the story, you are presented with a bit of a Dwarf Musical, and your character takes part (unfortunately it's hard to tell in this Youtube video which one is the player character).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1nXKgBb1CA

I have actually watched it in Korean during my play time, and it was even better.

[Typhon]

After this dwarf musical, before/during/after which the smith is talking about the awesome weapon he's creating for you... there is no weapon.  You didn't do something wrong.  The game didn't bug out.  Maybe at some point you got a weapon, but not any more.

Also, once you complete Yorn (where the musical takes place) and if you've gotten your stronghold to lvl 22ish, you can research two things which make honing on alts WAY easier (+20% chance of success, -20% honing cost).  Try to wait on ginding up your alts till then