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on: February 21, 2021, 01:24:41 PM

D2R looks better than 4. Discuss.

Immortal looks like a shit sandwich.
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Reply #1 on: February 21, 2021, 02:47:23 PM

Saw the trailer with the archer character, and it reminded me alot about POE. Seems like they have taken some lessons from that game.

I will try out both. But the darker story and setting in D1 and D2 will always appeal more to me than D3.
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Reply #2 on: February 21, 2021, 07:17:06 PM

Very excited about D2R. Not at all excited about D4.

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Reply #3 on: February 21, 2021, 08:49:06 PM

D4 "looks" better than D2R but it's impossible to say at this point if it plays better or worse.
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Reply #4 on: February 21, 2021, 11:08:18 PM

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Saw the trailer with the archer character, and it reminded me alot about POE
what the fuck does this even mean

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Reply #5 on: February 21, 2021, 11:20:46 PM

D4 "looks" better than D2R but it's impossible to say at this point if it plays better or worse.


I mean sure, we can't say for certain that D4 won't somehow be better than what is still the best game in the genre.
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Reply #6 on: February 21, 2021, 11:23:13 PM

D4 "looks" better than D2R but it's impossible to say at this point if it plays better or worse.


Have you looked at the D2 4k press kit stuff?

D4 and D2 are a spit apart and we know what we're getting with D2 sooooooo
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Reply #7 on: February 22, 2021, 02:38:21 AM

No I haven't but static images are only part of the story. Resurrection is keeping the underlying 25 FPS engine from D2 and keeping the exact same animations (you can toggle between the legacy sprite mode and updated 3D models at will) so it's never going to look as good in motion as D3 or D4.
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Reply #8 on: February 22, 2021, 10:46:40 AM

To be clear, the 25 FPS cycle is more of a behind the scenes thing tied to the mechanics at this point. Graphically the game can run at 60 or higher, and while I don't think they've changed any animations, they've added more frames to them to make it look smoother.
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Reply #9 on: February 22, 2021, 01:23:37 PM

We have video of Diablo 4 and D2R at max framerates for each. Yes, the D2 animations are Old World so to speak, but sometimes that old pasta sauce is better than the shit at your local pizza joint.
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Reply #10 on: February 22, 2021, 01:32:08 PM

Weíll see.
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Reply #11 on: February 22, 2021, 04:10:09 PM

To be clear, I think all of us would kill for D4 to be better.
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Reply #12 on: February 22, 2021, 04:26:40 PM

This conversation is about two separate things. I know D2R will be an amazing nostalgia trip, tech limitations or not. At the same time I really want D4 to be better, like Schild says.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

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Reply #13 on: February 22, 2021, 05:05:56 PM

Itís kinda two separate things, but really itís about how by announcing D2r a lot of us suddenly care quite a bit less about D4. Insert meme of couple with the guy turning to look at the other woman walking by.
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Reply #14 on: February 22, 2021, 05:11:13 PM

I'll play both, if only to see if I still have the reflexes to do the Sorceress teleport hydra spam 20 years later.
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Reply #15 on: February 22, 2021, 06:42:08 PM

Except that the other woman walking by is an ex we left, uh, 15-20 years ago.
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Reply #16 on: February 22, 2021, 07:14:33 PM

Except that the other woman walking by is an ex we left, uh, 15-20 years ago.

But you parted on pretty good terms and she somehow looks even better now than 20 years ago.
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Reply #17 on: February 23, 2021, 08:11:16 AM

Blizzard fouled up the Warcraft 3 remaster so I'm going to reserve a LOT of judgement on how they are going to remaster Diablo 2.

It would be fun watching everything dropping dead from my Sorceress lightning spam again if they get it right. IF.
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Reply #18 on: February 23, 2021, 09:51:40 AM

Vicarious Visions is working on this one, and they just did the well received Tony Hawk remake which is a lot harder to get right than Diablo.
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Reply #19 on: February 23, 2021, 12:37:41 PM

A care a lot about D2r and D4. I care more about D4 only because I want to see the genre get better/updated.

I think D2r is going to kick ass.

I do not think D4 is going to be amazing long term because Blizzard seems to run away from complexity in any fashion.
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Reply #20 on: February 24, 2021, 03:46:11 AM


Immortal looks like a shit sandwich.

I was in the beta test for immortal. I don't think you are giving it enough credit. It was fun, good tablet/phone controls and I had a blast with it. It felt like diablo every step of the test.

Like you, I was incredibly skeptical of it, but was won over quickly. Admittedly the battlepass was only running the FTP element and the storyline wasn't the whole game, but I had fun with it.

I will reserve judgement on D2R. I didn't refund WC3R as self-punishment for believing in the current iteration of Blizzard. I know it's a different team, but it really is the same message they proposed with WC3R. I will treat it like immortal and be pleasantly surprised if they get it right.

D4 - I just don't care enough yet. I also don't think that the current Blizzard is innovative enough to make it work.

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Reply #21 on: February 24, 2021, 01:25:40 PM

I don't want to think about how much I played D2 and I'm not excited about it being remade. I realise I'm probably an exception here, but I played D3 (late) and thought it was more fun as an appropriate, modern take on the ARPG genre. Story was god awful though.

I'm also wondering whether they'll be making the remake based on the latest patch? I think it was 1.10 that pretty fundamentally changed how the game's skill system worked. The animations also look a bit janky to me - not sure if that's from D2R or a faithful recreation of D2.
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Reply #22 on: February 25, 2021, 02:41:31 PM

Since D3, I want all ARPGs to have Adventure mode as an option so I don't have to level 2nd/3rd/4th chars via Story mode and some sort of end game.  I especially am not keen on returning to D2 Normal/Nightmare/Hell story progression (I assume that is not changing, but I'm not sure).  Everything else about D2R is making me smile though.
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Reply #23 on: February 27, 2021, 08:11:52 AM

the fun thing about the diablo 2 remaster is that i played the original d2 as a kid and haven't actually seen it in a while and watching that video is like what my brain wants to remember the graphics as. if i were to go look at the actual original d2 i'd be like "ahh holy shit was it really like this"
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