The Mandalorian

[schild]

They should just hand the entire IP over to Marvel at this point, declare it in universe (maybe have a wormhole connect the two galaxies somehow) and stop trying to treat it like it's own special thing.  They've fucked the whole thing up since getting it from Lucas (who also fucked the whole thing up), so just hand over creative control to that organization.

This is the dumbest shit ever.

Mandalorian is what happens when you hand things over to Marvel folks. So, is it REALLY the dumbest shit ever?

Is it?

Is Dr. Strange not just a [more powerful] jedi by any other name?

[HaemishM]

The Marvel people know how to write stories, both self-contained and meta stories that span multiple properties/characters. There's certainly some wiggle room to complain about the formulaic nature of their stories but even their bad movies are better than shit like Rise of Skywalker for no other reason than "they have a plan."

[Soln]

e7 damn

[Khaldun]

They just need a Feige for Star Wars. I think Dave Filoni might be the guy, though I'm not sure he can make the right choices in terms of hiring directors, etc--not enough evidence for that.

But the Star Wars management job is closer at this point to being handed the reins for DC Comics properties--there's a lot of mistakes to sort out and some housecleaning to do.

[TheWalrus]

They should just hand the entire IP over to Marvel at this point, declare it in universe (maybe have a wormhole connect the two galaxies somehow) and stop trying to treat it like it's own special thing.  They've fucked the whole thing up since getting it from Lucas (who also fucked the whole thing up), so just hand over creative control to that organization.

This is the dumbest shit ever.

Mandalorian is what happens when you hand things over to Marvel folks. So, is it REALLY the dumbest shit ever?

Is it?

Is Dr. Strange not just a [more powerful] jedi by any other name?

Yeah. It is. Declaring Star Wars and Marvel Universe to be happening in the same space is the dumbest shit ever. Yes. GTFOH.

[schild]

I think it would be incredibly stupid.

But it'd still be better than where star wars has gone for the last 30 years.

[HaemishM]

You could make Howard the Duck the new Jedi master of the universe with an army of Transformers at his disposal, and it would still be less stupid than Rise of Skywalker.

[Paelos]

For some reason this conversation sparked a realization for me: I don't want things explained. The explanation is always dumber than the initial 'magic handwaving' (see: midichlorians).

But aren't you one of the ones who hates Lindelof?

That's me.

[jgsugden]

Anyone that isn't loving this series is trying too hard to be a hater.  They're killing it.

This is the best Star Wars we've ever seen.

[Surlyboi]

For some reason this conversation sparked a realization for me: I don't want things explained. The explanation is always dumber than the initial 'magic handwaving' (see: midichlorians).

But aren't you one of the ones who hates Lindelof?

That's me.

I hated him too, but he redeemed himself with the Leftovers and Watchmen.

[Riggswolfe]

Anyone that isn't loving this series is trying too hard to be a hater.  They're killing it.

This is the best Star Wars we've ever seen.

I wouldn't go that far but it is damn good and shows you can do something that isn't connected to existing characters and storylines and have it work. A lesson Lucasfilm desperately needed to learn.

[Teleku]

Yeah. It is. Declaring Star Wars and Marvel Universe to be happening in the same space is the dumbest shit ever. Yes. GTFOH.

For the record I was joking about that actually being a thing (maybe I should have used green I guess).  Just joking that this series shows Marvel folks and what not can do such a better job than Lucas with this franchise that they may as well declare the various characters marvel heros.

[Threash]

Those two scout troopers might be might favorite Star Wars characters.

[Sky]

Those two scout troopers might be might favorite Star Wars characters.

I paused the screen when they first appeared. It was such a masterful tableau, capturing the post-Imperial troops lounging at their duty positions like a hybrid soldier/biker ganger. Then the nuance of those two hearing Mando on I'm assuming a recon radio with better spectrum than the avg trooper's was a nice touch.

But the unexpected happy nostalgia surprise was

I still can't put anything ahead of OT because Han and Leia were just that friggin' good (I've been rewatching the 4k versions). But this series and Rogue One have absolutely redeemed Star Wars in my opinion. Whatever else happens in the IP, getting gems like these is something to be excited about. Rogue One shows they are capable of putting together a good movie (though I still prefer the "I rebel" idea over the "Rebellions are built on hope" final cut, tbh), and the Mandalorian is showing that they have formula for longer form stuff.

I'm also happy they went with a traditional episodic release rather than a modern binge release. It's nice to have a new episode to look forward to every week, going to miss it when it ends.

[Threash]

Ahh... that was it you know.

[jgsugden]

That scene at the start of the last episode - that was awesome.  Loved it.

How long is the wait until Season 2? 

[Trippy]

Fall 2020:

https://twitter.com/Jon_Favreau/status/1210652862193098753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[Sky]

Ahh... that was it you know.

I haven't seen the final episode yet :)

[schild]

Star Wars fans so lucky this is part of the MCEU now

[Threash]

One of the scout troopers was Jason Sudeikis apparently, the other was Adam Pally who I've never heard of.

[Brolan]

That season could not have gone better.  Awesome addition to Star Wars lore.

[HaemishM]

Now that's the way to do fan service right. I am going to miss this shit for the next fucking year.

[Abagadro]

The bit with the biker troopers was great. I knew Waititi would do a great job with the finale but it even exceeded those expectations.

[Riggswolfe]

That scene at the start of the last episode - that was awesome.  Loved it.

How long is the wait until Season 2? 

[Soln]

[Threash]

[Cyrrex]

Just finished 7 and 8, and goddamn.  That is how you do Star Wars.  Let Favreau and Filoni do all the Star Wars from now on until they die.  As a collective piece of work, this is IMO the best SW we have seen.  Or it is at least right up there with Empire.

Baby Yoda noping the fucking out and grabbing the ship controls was the funniest thing I have seen in a while.  Until perhaps Apollo tells him to do the hand thing, and he then obliges, jesus christ so funny.

[HaemishM]

Apparently Jason Sudekis was one of the biker troopers. Jesus Christ that bit was so funny.

[Johny Cee]

Episode 8 was much weaker than episode 7.  Some great bits, some weak bits.  Waititi tone whiplash in full effect, which his Thor movie had quite a bit of.  "I'm dying, leave me!  Must sacrifice myself!  Oh, I'm okay! <prat fall> Oh, you can't sacrifice yourself!  Oh, all the baddies are dead, lets jokingly talk about everything going back to normal completely ignoring the supposedly sad moment we just had 2 minutes ago!"

I didn't like the scout troopers.  Too on the nose, and deflates the risk to our main characters if the baddies are blatantly fucking incompetent...  I mean, if they were that fucking bad how did they get the baby in first place?  I say that as someone who loved the old Troops short.  Storm Troopers have largely been portrayed as decently scary in the series until this episode, where the tension was drained out of the previous episode's setup by making them target dummies...  The troopers would have had Mando in episode 3 a couple of times if he wasn't fully outfitted in armor that actually works really well.   Or compare to the Jawas:  The Jawas were jokey in episode 2, and Mando murdered the shit out of a bunch of them, but they managed to beat him in a believable manner.

Troops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HO70-Rk3jE
 

Wasn't bad, and there were some great moments like the Moff listing off everyone's full name and planet of origin, or the IG-11/Mando scene.  When you discover Gina Carrano was from Alderaan?  Yeah, now you know why she's got a big old hate fetish for IMPs.  It was just a bit mixed after the amazing episode 7.  Deborah Chow killed it in Episode 7, and people are really excited for her Obi Wan series now.

[Sky]

The scouts in the finale reminded me of the two goobers in the Oceans franchise. Loved 'em.

I thought that was a vibroblade, but I guess the armor on a Moff makes sense having a saber, too. Never heard of a dark saber, but I'm no uberfan (I mean, I have a Vader helmet but not the entire outfit!).

[Cyrrex]

Off the top of my head, the dark saber appears only in Clone Wars and Rebels material.  It is an important Mandalorian artifact.  I was never clear on whether there was only one of them in existence, or if they were just rare like lightsabers.

[MahrinSkel]

Off the top of my head, the dark saber appears only in Clone Wars and Rebels material.  It is an important Mandalorian artifact.  I was never clear on whether there was only one of them in existence, or if they were just rare like lightsabers.

There's just the one, made by the first (only?) Mandalorian Jedi, before the Jedi and Mandalorians went to war. Nobody knows how it was made, and it has never been duplicated.

--Dave

[Sky]

Ok, that set up season 2 even better than I had thought!

[Threash]

Off the top of my head, the dark saber appears only in Clone Wars and Rebels material.  It is an important Mandalorian artifact.  I was never clear on whether there was only one of them in existence, or if they were just rare like lightsabers.

I've watched Clone Wars and Rebels and I've never been quite clear on what makes it so special other than being black. It seems to work like a regular ass lightsaber.

[eldaec]

Afaik, in lore it is a traditional weapon of the boss mandalorian.

Certainly in the Filoni cartoons it was just a weird looking lightsabre. Significance is political not murder efficiency.

Only one is known to exist, but if a writer wants two, I'm guessing there shall be two.