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Reply #210 on: March 25, 2019, 12:57:38 AM

GotG is my top pick for the Marvel Universe. Winter Soldier and Thor Ragnorak compete for second place.

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Reply #211 on: March 25, 2019, 12:59:59 AM

i'm not going to quote it since we are a stone age forum software with no tagging

but how the fuck does one have "emotional investment" in infinity war

it was a movie that didn't matter, it's literally the LEAST emotional and MOST inconsequential movie in the entire mcu

edit: oh, another page and setanta is the first response - perfect, explain yourself

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GotG is my top pick for the Marvel Universe.

also explain this
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Reply #212 on: March 25, 2019, 10:06:32 AM

I just assumed he was talking about humans with actual super powers. There's a number of people who have non-alien tech, or are actual aliens. Black Panther is borderline as his tech and powers come from an alien metal.

His powers come from a plant.  His suit is made of an alien metal.
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Reply #213 on: March 25, 2019, 10:43:12 AM


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Reply #214 on: March 25, 2019, 11:42:16 AM

I have plenty of emotional investment in Infinity War because 1) most of the characters are either ones that I've loved since I was a kid or because there have been a decade worth of well-developed movies about many of the characters and 2) the ending.

You may say that "oh the ending is just going to get undone and everyone will live!" Yeah, I don't think that's a stone cold certainty. There will be some undoing of it but I don't expect MCU Phase 2 or 3 or whatever is after Infinity War is going to have the same cast of characters nor do I think all of those characters make it out alive.

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Reply #215 on: March 25, 2019, 11:56:08 AM

I just assumed he was talking about humans with actual super powers. There's a number of people who have non-alien tech, or are actual aliens. Black Panther is borderline as his tech and powers come from an alien metal.

His powers come from a plant.  His suit is made of an alien metal.

True, however the plant was mutated by the alien metal.
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Reply #216 on: March 26, 2019, 04:42:33 AM

I find it hard to care about the avengers movies at all. Firstly because only avengers assemble was any good, secondly because the way disney uses them primarily to reorganise the brand line up shows through a bit too obviously. Same problem crossover 'events' have in the comics.

There are some cool explosions and jokes. I'll sit through them happily for that reason.
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Reply #217 on: March 26, 2019, 05:00:14 AM

i'm not going to quote it since we are a stone age forum software with no tagging

but how the fuck does one have "emotional investment" in infinity war

it was a movie that didn't matter, it's literally the LEAST emotional and MOST inconsequential movie in the entire mcu

edit: oh, another page and setanta is the first response - perfect, explain yourself

edit 2:
GotG is my top pick for the Marvel Universe.

also explain this

I enjoyed it more than the other movies.

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Reply #218 on: March 27, 2019, 04:17:03 PM

Granted CA is my favorite hero of all time but I really do think CA:TFA is underrated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DXG4lm-CNo
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Reply #219 on: March 27, 2019, 10:20:29 PM

Finally saw this. Was solid though lacking enough specialness to overcome the fact that the character means nothing at all to me and has boring power/origin/background.

Not a bad day at the movies but mainly because it signaled that Endgame is next and it had been awhile since I'd seen a comic in theaters having skipped Ant Man 2 and Aquaman and whatever else I skipped between Infinity War and now.

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Reply #220 on: March 27, 2019, 10:24:18 PM

.... having skipped Ant Man 2 and Aquaman and whatever else I skipped between Infinity War and now.

I can understand why you skipped those two, but if you haven't done it already, you should catch up on Ant Man 2. It's about 500% better than the first one and legitimately a top tier MCU movie. Aquaman was shit though, you missed nothing by skipping that one.

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Reply #221 on: March 28, 2019, 10:35:39 AM

I'll second Iain's recommendation, Ant Man 2 is solid.

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Reply #222 on: March 28, 2019, 11:28:17 AM

I prefer MCU when it's doing smaller, character driven stuff. The first Spidey, Cap: 1st Avenger, Ant-Man.

Though my favorite thus far is probably Thor Ragnarok.

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Reply #223 on: March 28, 2019, 11:42:04 AM

Aquaman is fucking DC you infidels. Also none of the MCU movies are bad enough to skip. No, not even that one.

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Reply #224 on: March 28, 2019, 11:48:01 AM

Yeah, I have to chime with to agree that Ant-Man and Wasp is a whole lot better than the first Ant-Man (and I liked the first one). It's a more solid story, better fights and visuals, just top-notch all-around. I regret not having seen it in the theater.

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Reply #225 on: March 28, 2019, 04:52:18 PM

I prefer MCU when it's doing smaller, character driven stuff. The first Spidey, Cap: 1st Avenger, Ant-Man.

Though my favorite thus far is probably Thor Ragnarok.

I like the stupid over the top stuff. GotG, Thor:Ragnarok, Avengers: Infinity War.

Iron Man is the only "earth" movie I really enjoy (The first Avengers movie is pretty decent tho).

Finally watched the rest of winter soldier, and enjoyed it a bit, but it's still not my preferred style.

Yeah, I have to chime with to agree that Ant-Man and Wasp is a whole lot better than the first Ant-Man (and I liked the first one). It's a more solid story, better fights and visuals, just top-notch all-around. I regret not having seen it in the theater.

I saw it at the movies and it's decent, but nothing really amazing about it that stands out either. Maybe as a "MCU fan" you bring enough other stuff in to enjoy it, but as a standalone movie the highs and lows were fairly flat?
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Reply #226 on: March 28, 2019, 09:43:43 PM

Granted CA is my favorite hero of all time but I really do think CA:TFA is underrated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DXG4lm-CNo

Not going to watch a 12 minute video on it but it's a solid movie made better by the fact that Cap's had the best arc across his movies. Also I'd say Hayley Atwell is the best love interest in any of the MCU movies but I don't want to diminish her role by reducing her simply to Cap's love interest. As much I liked the Netflix shows (at least when they were really on their game), we should be talking about a revival of Agent Carter before pushing for the Netflix stuff to be brought back.

I wasn't a huge fan of Sebastian Stan as Bucky but from Winter Soldier on I think he's done an awesome job, again making me retroactively like him in TFA more. The supporting cast is stacked pretty deep with talent as well like Toby Jones, Neal McDonough, Dominic Cooper, Stanley Tucci, and Tommy Lee Jones. So yeah, good movie. If there's one thing I kinda don't like about it, it's that the majority of his time in WWII is reduced to a montages. I understand they had to get him to the present by the end of the movie to set up Avengers though.
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Reply #227 on: March 28, 2019, 10:17:27 PM

Granted CA is my favorite hero of all time but I really do think CA:TFA is underrated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DXG4lm-CNo

Not going to watch a 12 minute video on it but it's a solid movie made better by the fact that Cap's had the best arc across his movies. Also I'd say Hayley Atwell is the best love interest in any of the MCU movies but I don't want to diminish her role by reducing her simply to Cap's love interest. As much I liked the Netflix shows (at least when they were really on their game), we should be talking about a revival of Agent Carter before pushing for the Netflix stuff to be brought back.

I wasn't a huge fan of Sebastian Stan as Bucky but from Winter Soldier on I think he's done an awesome job, again making me retroactively like him in TFA more. The supporting cast is stacked pretty deep with talent as well like Toby Jones, Neal McDonough, Dominic Cooper, Stanley Tucci, and Tommy Lee Jones. So yeah, good movie. If there's one thing I kinda don't like about it, it's that the majority of his time in WWII is reduced to a montages. I understand they had to get him to the present by the end of the movie to set up Avengers though.

Yeah the movie sort of falls apart after Cap rescues Bucky and the Howling Commandos.
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Reply #228 on: March 29, 2019, 03:58:03 AM

Every single MCU movie falls apart in the third act.

The formula seems to require it.

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Reply #229 on: March 30, 2019, 12:12:39 AM

That is ridiculously untrue.

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Reply #230 on: March 30, 2019, 06:12:53 AM

This bickering is amusing when it's pretty much fact that Spiderverse is the finest superhero movie of all time in all respects.


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Reply #231 on: March 31, 2019, 08:17:17 PM

This bickering is amusing when it's pretty much fact that Spiderverse is the finest superhero movie of all time in all respects.
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Reply #232 on: April 01, 2019, 02:21:57 PM

The Incredibles.

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Reply #233 on: April 01, 2019, 02:26:15 PM

Doesn't even compare to Spiderverse. Not even in the same league.

Nope.

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Reply #234 on: April 01, 2019, 02:36:36 PM

Incredables was great, but it was not without its problems, mainly coming from the Randian things that were mixed in with it which spoiled the story for me. The big one for me was that the Villians goals were not actually that bad. He basically long term wanted to give everyone superpowers, and that was supposed to be the shocking horrible future because that means no-one would stand out and be extraordinary. That ties into the Father talking about how everyone seems to want to be mediocre, and the whole thing about suppressing people with superpowers because society wanted conformity, which is very Randian attitude.

They were small things because you will correctly argue that the Villains methods were the problem, but it spoiled the thing a bit for me. Not to the extent of saying it wasn't a great movie, because it was, but it means there are little niggles in my head when I think about it.

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Reply #235 on: April 01, 2019, 07:19:56 PM

The Incredibles.

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Sorry, not even close. And I liked the Incredibles.

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Reply #236 on: April 02, 2019, 06:32:34 PM

This is now the first 1b solo debut movie.

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Reply #237 on: April 03, 2019, 05:46:56 AM

Every single MCU movie falls apart in the third act.

The formula seems to require it.

Pattern of the Netflix Marvel series too.

Strong opening => build tense narrative => look over here at mediocre secondary villain for 3-4 episodes => end main plot
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Reply #238 on: April 03, 2019, 06:54:00 AM

Except for Jessica Jones.

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