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Sir T
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Reply #105 on: June 14, 2018, 02:27:16 PM

Hell is other people, and open servers are hell. There is no other way to stop the fucktards.

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Reply #106 on: June 14, 2018, 03:23:13 PM

Looks like they made this new Fallout just for fucktards like me. Well, lucky me. I am happy.

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Reply #107 on: June 15, 2018, 05:22:15 AM

It gives internet tards nukes that can destroy your settlement. 

Who would do anything BUT wait for private servers ?
They are doing you a favor by nuking your settlement. Seriously. That's what the developers effectively said. (It increases rad levels which leads to better drops).


 Ohhhhh, I see.

Fair enough.

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Reply #108 on: June 15, 2018, 06:08:48 AM

They are doing you a favor by nuking your settlement. Seriously. That's what the developers effectively said. (It increases rad levels which leads to better drops).

So I give it a week before we live in "Fallout: The Glowing Sea." Hell, the first place to have lethal radiation will be the Newbie Area and the green glow will spread from there.

So who'se up for justifying it by roleplaying as followers of Atom!

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Reply #109 on: June 15, 2018, 10:18:50 AM

So, I mean, there's that. I'm not real interested in this one at all, but that seems to be the selling point for old farts like us.
I hear the big Rust and Ark players are drooling. So many single-player RPG sheep to slaughter.
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Reply #110 on: June 15, 2018, 02:05:31 PM

It gives internet tards nukes that can destroy your settlement. 

Who would do anything BUT wait for private servers ?

That's how it is in Conan Exiles with the God Avatars.

Sure, but the use of private servers from launch negates the problem with that.

I'm not too worried -- they will or they won't. There is an audience for all out PvP with WMDs and that's fine, I've got other games I can play in my backlog.
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Reply #111 on: June 15, 2018, 02:10:19 PM

I can assure you all this is NOT the game Rust players are waiting for. 24 players per server? It's a JOKE.

No, this might have open PvP, but it is not ever going to be a PvP centric game.

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Reply #112 on: June 15, 2018, 04:31:10 PM

I can assure you all this is NOT the game Rust players are waiting for. 24 players per server? It's a JOKE.

No, this might have open PvP, but it is not ever going to be a PvP centric game.
They thought of that. Everyone shows up on the map, so you can find them.
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Reply #113 on: June 15, 2018, 04:50:06 PM

I can assure you all this is NOT the game Rust players are waiting for. 24 players per server? It's a JOKE.

No, this might have open PvP, but it is not ever going to be a PvP centric game.
you can't assure us of anything, bethsoft has never made a game like this

and not having private servers is absolutely the most glaring billboard that says "this is going to be a fucking disaster"

not pvp centric

lol
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Reply #114 on: June 15, 2018, 05:24:18 PM

The sheer number of people trying to force this game into something it's not is staggering. People talking about setting up "communities" and "factions" and "settlements".

You're going to log onto a random collection of strangers, plus anyone in your group. Every time the people will be different. Your "settlement" isn't. It's a damn camp, SWG style, which you need to do stuff like craft ammo, rest, recuperate, maintain/repair gear. It travels with you, like...camps in SWG, and frankly probably needs materials to deploy each time because he, need sinks, right?

People talking about shelling out for 200 dollar, collector *pre-orders* for a game that will be 180 degrees away from what they think.

There's gonna be some pissed off people when this launches, and Bethesda could have avoided it by just being up front about what the game is. There'd be pissed off people now, but not pissed off people when it launched. The first affects pre-orders, the second affects all sales.
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Reply #115 on: June 15, 2018, 06:50:44 PM

Look at the stats for Fallout Shelter. Think about how it has almost certainly booked more revenue than the rest of the Fallout franchise combined, for virtually no cost. Welcome to microtransaction hell, Wanderer.

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Reply #116 on: June 15, 2018, 09:17:25 PM

I played Fallout Shelter.  The loot boxes were not cash grabby -- at all.  Bethesda were VERY up front about the fact that that the boxes had NOTHING in them that couldn't be obtained thru game play.  They were a short cut, not a way around a cockblock, just a way to shorten a game that held my interest for only 8-10 days.

Who the hell paid money for that?

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Reply #117 on: June 15, 2018, 10:03:02 PM

I played Fallout Shelter.  The loot boxes were not cash grabby -- at all.  Bethesda were VERY up front about the fact that that the boxes had NOTHING in them that couldn't be obtained thru game play.  They were a short cut, not a way around a cockblock, just a way to shorten a game that held my interest for only 8-10 days.

Who the hell paid money for that?
Apparently, a lot of people. 3 years on still pulling in an estimated $1/install, and a top 30 position with 40K installs a day. It's closing on 100M installs, and that's with no User Acquisition spend in years (paid installs usually monetize at far higher rates than organic).

The game they describe makes no sense as a Fallout game, unless the big piece they aren't talking about is monetization.

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Reply #118 on: June 15, 2018, 10:58:07 PM

The game they describe makes no sense as a Fallout game, unless the big piece they aren't talking about is monetization.

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Actually I'm gonna disagree -- I mean assuming this is survival PvP, underneath all the PR spin.  Post-apocalypse is a pretty good setting for survival PvP, after all.

I suspect they saw this as the cheapest way to develop a robust multiplayer engine to run the Fallout engine with. Building co-op Falllout 4.5 (ala New Vegas for 3) would require not just developing the ability to do multiplayer), but also shelling out for a big, expensive, single-player setup and a filled up world.

Survival PvP lets them cut a lot of corners on that development, letting them spend the time and effort building a solid multiplayer engine. And with Rust and DayZ and all being pretty popular back when basic design was likely being finalized.....
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Reply #119 on: June 25, 2018, 01:36:27 PM

Apparently Bohemia (the ARMA and DAYZ people) are doing their own version of Fallout 76. 8 to 16 players (WTF?) and set in Norway in 1991 after some kind of nuclear fallout. It's called Vigor.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFvc6PqB8F0

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Reply #120 on: June 25, 2018, 01:56:41 PM

Xbox Exclusive? Why?

Also, I didn't even realize DayZ had gone officially released mainly because I didn't care.

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Reply #121 on: June 25, 2018, 07:38:18 PM

i want to play that

but i'll own a fucking limited edition japanese only switch before i own another microsoft console
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Reply #122 on: June 25, 2018, 08:05:56 PM

The sheer number of people trying to force this game into something it's not is staggering. People talking about setting up "communities" and "factions" and "settlements".

You're going to log onto a random collection of strangers, plus anyone in your group. Every time the people will be different. Your "settlement" isn't. It's a damn camp, SWG style, which you need to do stuff like craft ammo, rest, recuperate, maintain/repair gear. It travels with you, like...camps in SWG, and frankly probably needs materials to deploy each time because he, need sinks, right?

People talking about shelling out for 200 dollar, collector *pre-orders* for a game that will be 180 degrees away from what they think.

There's gonna be some pissed off people when this launches, and Bethesda could have avoided it by just being up front about what the game is. There'd be pissed off people now, but not pissed off people when it launched. The first affects pre-orders, the second affects all sales.

I'm pretty sure they're going to talk about the game more between now and when it launches.
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Reply #123 on: June 26, 2018, 11:38:04 PM

Xbox Exclusive? Why?


Aren't all new Xbox games on Windows Store Xbox thingy too?
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Reply #124 on: June 27, 2018, 12:48:21 AM

Microsoft published games are now that way but this game is a digital-only, self-published game.
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Reply #125 on: July 02, 2018, 04:13:01 AM

Xbox Exclusive? Why?

Also, I didn't even realize DayZ had gone officially released mainly because I didn't care.

DayZ is still listed as Early Access, by the way. It hasn't released yet.
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Reply #126 on: July 02, 2018, 02:00:43 PM

What does "early Access" even mean anymore in that case? Its become a meaningless concept, just "give us money now and reduce the reasons for us to bother finishing the game."

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Reply #127 on: July 03, 2018, 03:39:31 AM

Yes, that's exactly what it means.

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