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Reply #70 on: November 24, 2017, 12:17:05 AM

Long, chaotic vanila AV battles were my favorite part of the game.  If that's an option, I'd play.  2 hour battles in which Lok and Ivus are summoned?  I'm in.


I would subscribe for this.
Ditto.  Original AV was probably one of my most favorite things ever.

And I'll be there too, ignoring the battle and working on my fishing.

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Reply #71 on: November 24, 2017, 01:26:43 AM

or skinning.  Pretty sure I spent a good long time in there skinning wolves on my mage, for whatever reason.

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Reply #72 on: November 24, 2017, 06:51:11 PM

or skinning.  Pretty sure I spent a good long time in there skinning wolves on my mage, for whatever reason.

Because it was a super efficient means to get to 300 skinning if one of your toons got Finkle's Skinner off The Beast in UBRS, because you were now the Raid Skinner for skinning Onyxia's scales.  (at least that's how it went for me).
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Reply #73 on: November 25, 2017, 05:49:31 AM

I'll definitely be snookered back for this until reality interferes.
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Reply #74 on: November 25, 2017, 01:13:32 PM

The one thing I'll never understand a Vanilla purist defending is the fucked itemization of everything. You could leave in the jank, pidgeonhole talent trees, shit like tab-target-sunder spam for tanking, etc.

But why would you want like 95% of the gear to be garbage with a random smattering of stats? I'd say let Blizz redo set bonuses from Tier 0 and up and make all the loot not suck complete shit.

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Reply #75 on: November 28, 2017, 07:54:08 AM

Because they remember the one time they got one piece of gear that was good and they were better than everyone else. They looked at it all day long in town with the character portait open. And this time, THIS TIME, they will do better and have a thunderfury and everyone will like them now.
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Reply #76 on: January 05, 2018, 10:11:03 PM

The one thing I'll never understand a Vanilla purist defending is the fucked itemization of everything. You could leave in the jank, pidgeonhole talent trees, shit like tab-target-sunder spam for tanking, etc.

But why would you want like 95% of the gear to be garbage with a random smattering of stats? I'd say let Blizz redo set bonuses from Tier 0 and up and make all the loot not suck complete shit.

Set gear isn't the only gear in the game.
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Reply #77 on: January 06, 2018, 02:09:48 AM

The one thing I'll never understand a Vanilla purist defending is the fucked itemization of everything. You could leave in the jank, pidgeonhole talent trees, shit like tab-target-sunder spam for tanking, etc.

But why would you want like 95% of the gear to be garbage with a random smattering of stats? I'd say let Blizz redo set bonuses from Tier 0 and up and make all the loot not suck complete shit.

Set gear isn't the only gear in the game.
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Reply #78 on: June 16, 2018, 10:17:10 AM

Looks like I was right: "Classic" experience will start with patch 1.12 (Drums of War) :

https://www.pcgamer.com/world-of-warcraft-classic-will-be-built-on-the-112-drums-of-war-patch/

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Reply #79 on: June 16, 2018, 07:56:44 PM

Have we any idea what the computer specifications will be? I'm hoping my wife can play on her very-much-non-gaming laptop.

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Reply #80 on: June 16, 2018, 08:55:36 PM

Looks like I was right: "Classic" experience will start with patch 1.12 (Drums of War) :

https://www.pcgamer.com/world-of-warcraft-classic-will-be-built-on-the-112-drums-of-war-patch/
Well that certainly makes it easier for me to stay on the wagon.

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Reply #81 on: June 19, 2018, 08:46:23 AM

This post made me realize the game will be 14 years old in November. That's insane how long it's been going.

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Reply #82 on: June 19, 2018, 05:54:44 PM

Whatís even more insane is that considering how successful it was, Blizzard hasnít made another, newer MMO in that 14 years.

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Reply #83 on: June 19, 2018, 06:18:48 PM

Whatís even more insane is that considering how successful it was, Blizzard hasnít made another, newer MMO in that 14 years.
I'd have to dig through emails but I feel like they've scrapped one if not two. Hell maybe three.
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Reply #84 on: June 19, 2018, 07:07:27 PM

They scrapped Titan to make Overwatch, which seems to have been the right decision.
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Reply #85 on: June 19, 2018, 07:09:25 PM

This post made me realize the game will be 14 years old in November. That's insane how long it's been going.

 ACK!

damn... time flies....

holy flying wombats... 14 years ?!?!?

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Reply #86 on: June 19, 2018, 10:05:15 PM

They will almost certainly make a WoW 2 when they feel they have well squeezed the last bit of blood from the stone.

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Reply #87 on: June 20, 2018, 12:58:20 AM

Whatís even more insane is that considering how successful it was, Blizzard hasnít made another, newer MMO in that 14 years.
I'd have to dig through emails but I feel like they've scrapped one if not two. Hell maybe three.
Sure, but its just impressive they managed to fuck up so many potential MMO projects over the years when you'd think making another successful monthly subscription game to replace their massive cash cow would be priority number 1.

Mind you, the face of MMO's has changed drastically since WoW was originally introduced, and I don't expect them to try and make another traditional MMO per say.  But as WoW has fallen off, they really have to be missing that guaranteed monthly subscription income.

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Reply #88 on: June 21, 2018, 08:31:43 AM

Looks like I was right: "Classic" experience will start with patch 1.12 (Drums of War) :

https://www.pcgamer.com/world-of-warcraft-classic-will-be-built-on-the-112-drums-of-war-patch/
Well that certainly makes it easier for me to stay on the wagon.

I like the sound of vanilla WoW but I'm really no expert on the patches. Is Drums of War bad?
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Reply #89 on: June 21, 2018, 08:35:57 AM

It was the final patch before Burning Crusade, so means every change since launch (But before BC) will be in.  Which I think is good?  I recall liking the various class overhauls a lot.  Not sure what the negatives would be.

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Reply #90 on: June 21, 2018, 09:29:50 AM

I was hoping for more of a progression experience, starting with 1.1 and then slowly patching in the class overhauls and extra content. Dumping everything in just means it will be easier to blow through everything and get tired of it all over again, instead of reliving the evolving vanilla patch lifecycle. The AQ event in particular will feel weird if it's just available Day 1, although I guess they might forgo it entirely and just have the gates open.

It's vaguely possible that they'll have the mechanics of 1.12 but keep certain zones/content locked and trickle them in slowly.

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Reply #91 on: June 21, 2018, 06:34:27 PM

That would've been interesting, but probably a lot more work for them. I imagine they will lock certain things the way private servers do. No Cenarion Circle Battlegear or Argent Dawn Armaments, no Dire Maul, and only MC/Onyxia available to start. I believe cross-server battlegrounds were in the game in 1.12 which they may or may not enable. 15 minute greater blessings for paladins make life a lot easier for them. I know some people have been saying that "no, I want it to punch me in the dick as much as possible like true vanilla" but I disagree. The QoL changes made from 1.0 to 1.12 didn't change the game fundamentally like dungeon finder or summoning stones. It's still vanilla, you still have to take boats/zeps and flight paths to get places, you still have no mount until 40, raids are still 40 people, rogues are still stunlocking people from 100-0, etc. Pretty much every class feels way better to play in 1.12 but they all still feel extremely distinct, which was one of my favorite parts of vanilla; how leveling a warrior vs leveling a mage almost felt like you were playing a whole different game, in complete contrast to current WoW where every class is homogeneous.

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Reply #92 on: June 22, 2018, 08:24:39 AM

can you fuckin imagine putting yourself through MC today

its a raid that was slapped together by physically exhausted teams desperately codging together generic pieces of caveInterior4 through caveInterior12
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Reply #93 on: June 22, 2018, 09:43:25 AM

It's fucking long just soloing as 110, one-shotting everything. I did a nostalgia run on the Vanilla/BC/LK raids last month and they clearly got better over time.
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Reply #94 on: June 23, 2018, 04:28:20 AM

Iím finding it difficult to believe theyíre going to go the garage and find the floppy disc that says 1.12 and throw it in the server.  Iíll bet there are going to be tweaks and surprises. 
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Reply #95 on: June 23, 2018, 10:59:16 AM

Have fun grinding all that faction shit again.  Unless they decrease the time needed for that by .. 90%?  Faction grinds, trying to find those stupid rare recipes.  Go grind up some crusader drops!   
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Reply #96 on: June 23, 2018, 11:43:27 AM

Dark Iron faction to make the Fire resist gear for Molten Core.

Onyxia scale cloaks.

Hell, the Molten Core attunement was pretty dick-punchy.

I had plenty of fun in Vanilla, but I think it was more the novelty of the experience plus the social aspects than the masochistic game mechanics.

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Reply #97 on: June 25, 2018, 11:54:04 AM

Iím finding it difficult to believe theyíre going to go the garage and find the floppy disc that says 1.12 and throw it in the server.  Iíll bet there are going to be tweaks and surprises. 

'changed the thing that made windfuries proc off windfuries and occasionally subject a target to millions of damage in a single tick when the stars align'

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Reply #98 on: June 25, 2018, 12:28:28 PM

Iím finding it difficult to believe theyíre going to go the garage and find the floppy disc that says 1.12 and throw it in the server.  Iíll bet there are going to be tweaks and surprises. 

'changed the thing that made windfuries proc off windfuries and occasionally subject a target to millions of damage in a single tick when the stars align'

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Reply #99 on: April 25, 2019, 01:31:11 AM

I got dragged into a group of people who want to do the reminiscing thing with this.
My biggest issue with this is (of course) the fucking people yelling on the forums and getting heard. All the hardcore assholes that want it "exactly like day 1" and then basically the same patches etc as after release. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT THAT?
Why are people insisting on having the shitty debuff limit that completely fucked warlocks the first few months of the game and getting it "patched" later when you can have this sensible change from the start?

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Reply #100 on: April 25, 2019, 06:52:24 AM

Iím finding it difficult to believe theyíre going to go the garage and find the floppy disc that says 1.12 and throw it in the server.  Iíll bet there are going to be tweaks and surprises. 

'changed the thing that made windfuries proc off windfuries and occasionally subject a target to millions of damage in a single tick when the stars align'

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I wish I still had it, but I had a screen cap of my combat log from an old Scholomance run where the Warrior in my group meled a rat critter for like 25 or 30k damage.  Half a dozen recursive procs of windfury triggers sword spec triggers windfury triggers sword spec.

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Reply #101 on: April 25, 2019, 12:32:49 PM

I got dragged into a group of people who want to do the reminiscing thing with this.
My biggest issue with this is (of course) the fucking people yelling on the forums and getting heard. All the hardcore assholes that want it "exactly like day 1" and then basically the same patches etc as after release. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT THAT?
Why are people insisting on having the shitty debuff limit that completely fucked warlocks the first few months of the game and getting it "patched" later when you can have this sensible change from the start?
Because a lot of the fun of nostalgia is experiencing the changes as we experienced them? I'm not really nostalgic for 1.12 era WoW but the vanilla WoW experience. The gradual introduction of raids, battlegrounds, etc. along with the class revamps is all part of the fun for me. As for actual gamebreaking bugs, I guess those should be fixed but I understand if they don't want to go back into old patches to patch things that they would have later patched. Given the choice between a fully patched 1.12 with modern conveniences and an as-it-was 1.0 being gradually patched up, I'd prefer the latter by far.

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Reply #102 on: April 26, 2019, 03:44:51 AM

Because a lot of the fun of nostalgia is experiencing the changes as we experienced them? I'm not really nostalgic for 1.12 era WoW but the vanilla WoW experience. The gradual introduction of raids, battlegrounds, etc. along with the class revamps is all part of the fun for me. As for actual gamebreaking bugs, I guess those should be fixed but I understand if they don't want to go back into old patches to patch things that they would have later patched. Given the choice between a fully patched 1.12 with modern conveniences and an as-it-was 1.0 being gradually patched up, I'd prefer the latter by far.

Gradual content - yes. And this seems to be Blizzard's intention.
Gradual balancing - no. There was a reason they had to rework half the classes on the way to 1.12.

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Reply #103 on: May 18, 2019, 10:16:31 AM

My wife has an older laptop that is not a gaming laptop, but assuming it can run it, how can I get her to play with me? I want a game we can play together.

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Reply #104 on: May 18, 2019, 11:10:53 AM

My wife has an older laptop that is not a gaming laptop, but assuming it can run it, how can I get her to play with me? I want a game we can play together.


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