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Korachia
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Reply #35 on: October 18, 2019, 10:43:29 AM

It´s worth it. As long you have a pc that can run it well enough.
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Reply #36 on: October 20, 2019, 12:40:28 AM

I've not really played a Total War game before.  Of the two, should I buy 1 or 2 to try it out?

What about DLC?
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Reply #37 on: October 21, 2019, 08:24:50 AM

Buy 2 first.  If you like it, buy 1 and you can use the WH1 races on the combined map.  There's a ton of FreeLC for both games, and each DLC pack adds a ton of content.  If you don't want to splash for all the DLC, find the races you like playing in the base game and then purchase the DLC that adds extra lords and units for that faction.  Curse of the Vampire Coast, Queen and the Crone, and Prophet & Warlock are all great.  I haven't spent much time with The Hunter & The Beast yet.
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Reply #38 on: November 27, 2019, 09:50:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sPbjHEnSDE

Malus Darkblade versus Deathmaster Sniktch.

Some Brettonian mare no-one has ever really heard of is the FLC.
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Reply #39 on: January 05, 2020, 06:00:59 AM

Back playing this and they've fixed one of my biggest gripes, the AI turns used to take far too long, they are now much quicker. They seem to have sped up loading times as well.

The big campaign now has over 50 Lords to play as and over 40 starting locations. Over time they've added a tonne of variety to the early and mid game with specific lord and faction mechanics (though admittedly if you play to the bitter end it does get similar).
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Reply #40 on: January 05, 2020, 11:55:55 AM

I've been playing this off and on over the Christmas holidays. After the patch/DLC that added Malus Darkblade and Sniktch, the turn times are miniscule in comparison. I haven't noticed a significant drop in load times but yeah the campaign is much smoother now. Also, Sniktch's early game campaign is SIGNIFICANTLY easier than say a Dark Elf commander like Malekith.

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Reply #41 on: January 06, 2020, 08:50:27 AM

The new Brettonian campaign is crazy fun, too.  Running around the desert, wrecking Tomb King and Vampire armies is the best time I've had with this game in a long time.
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Reply #42 on: January 06, 2020, 01:41:39 PM

I struggle with brettonia as soon as I start having to siege people.

Love the chivalry and peasant mechanics, but having to charge horses through a door into walls of spears is less fun.

I assume they get better later on with flying cav.

Playing vampire pirates at the moment, surprised how different they are from vampire counts. I have a ridiculous pile of gold from low scale raiding and establishing pirate coves, but Tyrion is starting to snowball - I think I need to switch to full invasion mode and break him before he becomes unstoppable.

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Reply #43 on: January 06, 2020, 07:07:48 PM

Flying knights rear-charging the wall of spears before your regular horse knights charge through the gates.  Or rear charge the wall while your peasants are dealing with whatever's up there, followed by lining the wall with archers and raining down on everything in front of the gate.  Or you can clear it out with a Lore of Heavens bombardment.
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Reply #44 on: January 07, 2020, 09:33:30 PM

I struggle with brettonia as soon as I start having to siege people.

Love the chivalry and peasant mechanics, but having to charge horses through a door into walls of spears is less fun.

I assume they get better later on with flying cav.

Playing vampire pirates at the moment, surprised how different they are from vampire counts. I have a ridiculous pile of gold from low scale raiding and establishing pirate coves, but Tyrion is starting to snowball - I think I need to switch to full invasion mode and break him before he becomes unstoppable.

Try having an army of trebuchets to follow along with your knights.

Otherwise its Royal Pegasus Knights to clean up and ignore the walls
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Reply #45 on: January 09, 2020, 10:30:41 AM

I can certainly see that.

My pirates do a similar thing in that they attack with an artillery army reinforced by a second army of giant crabs.

The artillery turns the walls to rubble and the crabs just stroll in.

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Reply #46 on: January 23, 2020, 04:31:50 PM

How much do you need to control the real time battles to enjoy this? I'm mostly keen on the TBS side.

Expect poison from the standing water.
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Reply #47 on: January 24, 2020, 02:20:09 AM

Do you mean how much do need to control them at all, or how much can you avoid micro within them?

Tbh there are better games if you want to auto resolve everything.

But if you just mean you want to avoid heavy micro, then just don't play something heavily dependent on cavalry or chariots.

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Reply #48 on: January 25, 2020, 07:39:16 PM

How much do you need to control the real time battles to enjoy this? I'm mostly keen on the TBS side.

Not much but you will do better controlling the battles. You can also pause the battles whenever you want in order to not have micro issues. The battles are the main draw of the game and i don't think it would be that great without them.
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Reply #49 on: January 27, 2020, 03:48:51 AM

Starting a second skaven campaign with Eshin after a first one with Skrye and I just love how different they've managed to make it.

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Reply #50 on: February 10, 2020, 09:05:14 PM

How much do you need to control the real time battles to enjoy this? I'm mostly keen on the TBS side.

Not much but you will do better controlling the battles. You can also pause the battles whenever you want in order to not have micro issues. The battles are the main draw of the game and i don't think it would be that great without them.
So I stumbled into the solution to my hatred of the battle UI controls in the Total War franchise: play an army that doesn't need to move around much, aka the Dwarfs. Currently playing them in the first one (wanted to play on the original, non-compressed/truncated Old World map) and against the Orcs and Goblins (and one random Beastmen army), at least, I don't really need to move my units around much, if any, and they are so tanky I don't need to pay much attention to what they are doing, keeping the micro down to a minimum. As a bonus they are too slow to chase routing units so I don't even need to bother with that.

As for the original question you can auto-resolve battles if want to avoid that part of the game but just know that you will be taking more losses compared to controlling your armies yourself unless your forces are way stronger than the enemy. Depending the difficulty setting, you might have trouble playing as some of the races / factions with harder starting positions if you aren't doing the battles yourself.
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Reply #51 on: April 26, 2020, 08:23:10 AM

I've started on this but run into a problem, not sure what it's with but applying DLC to this (and 1) seems to be a complete crapshoot. I've downloaded them in Steam and they show as in my library, some of the free ones show up in the TW launcher but most don't and clicking on DLC there just takes me to the Steam webpage that links back to Steam. In the game itself it looks like half the free DLCs I have give me a 'click here to access this' (including Mortal Empires) that just sticks me in a looping circle of Steam app> TW launcher > Steam web page > Steam app.

Which is generally fine but not being able to open a Mortal Empires campaign is kind of annoying.

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Reply #52 on: April 26, 2020, 12:19:14 PM

Seems to be a common problem given the number of discussions that pop up when you Google this problem. This Steam one seems to explain the differences between “DLC” and “FLC” the best including a comment by the dev at the end on the fact that the system for activating FLC was broken on their end recently.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/594570/discussions/0/1744478429691703407/
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Reply #53 on: May 07, 2020, 09:50:42 AM

New DLC! Greenskin rework, adds them to the vortex campaign. They get Grom the Paunch as a new legendary lord, bunch of new units - including idols of gork (or mork), new Waaaargh mechanic that doesn't sound much better than the old one, and a new research tree that is fuelled by battle scrap to encourage fighting.

Oh, high elves also get 2 more no name lords nobody cares about, and another wizard or something.

https://youtu.be/dQM-h3M4BZc
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Reply #54 on: May 08, 2020, 08:23:09 AM

You're not excited for chariots being pulled by giant lions?  Weirdo.

Honestly, the new High Elf mechanic sounds interesting and very in-line with how I like to play these games.  I'm looking forward to both factions.
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Reply #55 on: May 08, 2020, 12:02:35 PM

Tbh chariots are always a hard pass for me in TW.

Even Grom's chariot will likely put be off playing as him.

The shaman orc guy looks like he'll benefit from the new trolls though, and the savage orc dude has always been on my long list to play.

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Reply #56 on: May 08, 2020, 07:18:21 PM

The shaman orc guy looks like he'll benefit from the new trolls though, and the savage orc dude has always been on my long list to play.

Wonder if Wurrzag's Waaagh gets a chance for Rogue Idols.
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Reply #57 on: May 10, 2020, 08:36:05 AM

He may well do, Azhag gets Wyverns so why not.

The big deal for Wurzzag is that he gives his army magical danage and strips all magic resistance in the opposing army.

So fuck you dwarfs.

Edit : Also, YouTube types are reporting end turn times have dropped even further.

Edit : end turn times are now so fast I occasionally hesitate over whether I really pressed the end turn button.
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Reply #58 on: June 17, 2020, 02:46:17 AM

Finally got around to playing Tomb Kings. Loving the alternate economy and recruitment system. Units are free and have no upkeep but are capped by the number of barracks buildings. The overall number off armies is limited by a slow research or expensive upgrades.

End result is you can't maintain consistent army comp and have to actively decide how share the best units around your armies.

Also there is less dependence on chariots than I feared.

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Reply #59 on: June 17, 2020, 10:22:31 PM

I've been enjoying the new Greenskins update a lot, but might be due for another round with the Tomb Kings.  Their high-tier constructs are so gorgeous.
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Reply #60 on: June 18, 2020, 08:26:28 PM

He may well do, Azhag gets Wyverns so why not.

The big deal for Wurzzag is that he gives his army magical danage and strips all magic resistance in the opposing army.

So fuck you dwarfs.

Edit : Also, YouTube types are reporting end turn times have dropped even further.

Edit : end turn times are now so fast I occasionally hesitate over whether I really pressed the end turn button.

Magic damage does not make the damage AP. Armor still protects.

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Reply #61 on: June 19, 2020, 04:58:37 AM

While that is correct, the point is dwarfs have 25% natural magic resist.

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