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Reply #840 on: April 12, 2018, 11:49:28 AM

They're ancient papers.  I'm ok with Ancient Jedi writing on paper rather than using some ancient technology.

We've seen drawings as well in various places.

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Reply #841 on: April 12, 2018, 01:52:52 PM

Not drawings on paper we haven't.

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Reply #842 on: April 12, 2018, 01:54:05 PM

Christ, that's some nitpicky bullshit, man.

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Reply #843 on: April 12, 2018, 02:56:26 PM

Not drawings on paper we haven't.
So, you're concerned that they should never have had paper technology? Too advanced or something?  Just because it was so rare as to never make screen time in the moves/shows does not mean it is gone.  Using paper here, and only here, makes the texts feel more ancient.  There is some discussion of paper in various Star Wars projects, btw, even if not a movie or animated series:  [urlhttp://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Paper]Paper trail[/url]

One must ask, though, how they wipe their asses.

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Reply #844 on: April 12, 2018, 02:58:46 PM


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Reply #845 on: April 12, 2018, 02:59:07 PM

One must ask, though, how they wipe their asses.


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Reply #846 on: April 12, 2018, 02:59:26 PM

Damn you.

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Reply #847 on: April 12, 2018, 02:59:35 PM

Too slow. why so serious?

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Reply #848 on: June 25, 2018, 02:54:42 PM

This hits Netflix tonight, apparently.

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Reply #849 on: June 25, 2018, 04:17:40 PM

Do we also get it in the Uk or hahahahah, no I don't care, fuck this film.

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Reply #850 on: June 25, 2018, 06:06:45 PM

It doesn't like you, either!

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Reply #851 on: June 25, 2018, 06:17:40 PM

This hits Netflix tonight, apparently.

Oh good!  I missed it in the theaters and the husband already feels guilty about that, so I can take over the big TV one of these evenings to watch it.

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Reply #852 on: June 26, 2018, 05:28:28 AM

It doesn't like you, either!

You'd better watch yourself;  I have the death sentence on 12 systems !


(but, like, seriously, how was this a boast ?)

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Reply #853 on: June 26, 2018, 07:43:17 AM

Do we also get it in the Uk or hahahahah, no I don't care, fuck this film.


Fwiw I think the answer is yes, which is kind of interesting because Disney are usually locked into Sky. Admittedly sky has had it on ppv for a while.

It looks like Thor 3 is showing up on Netflix at the same time as sky as well. Which is a surprise.

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Reply #854 on: June 26, 2018, 10:04:56 AM

But at least a pleasant one.

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Reply #855 on: June 26, 2018, 01:21:01 PM

Come on, admit that you're glad it is on Netflix.  It gave you another excuse to bash it.

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Reply #856 on: June 26, 2018, 04:15:01 PM

Cant wait for episode 9 hits netflix because thats the only place im going to watch it.
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Reply #857 on: June 26, 2018, 05:09:06 PM

Cant wait for episode 9 hits netflix because thats the only place im goong to watch it.
Is it going to be as fun to read the threads about how JJ undid everything Rian established if you have not seen the movie?  Rey Kenobi...

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Reply #858 on: June 26, 2018, 05:27:58 PM

Hey, I haven't sat in a Theater Star Wars movie since the Fandom Penance, and I find these threads fun to read.

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Reply #859 on: June 26, 2018, 08:18:10 PM

Yeah, I've started watching this on Netflix to see if my original feelings are justified. I had to quit about an hour into it because... uggggh.

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Reply #860 on: June 27, 2018, 07:46:07 AM

Conversely, I just watched it while drawing last night and I liked it just as much as I did in the theater. Solid movie, firmly tucked in behind the OT (I'm roughly RO, ESB, ANH, RotJ, TLJ, TFA).

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Reply #861 on: June 27, 2018, 07:53:58 AM

Cant wait for episode 9 hits netflix because thats the only place im goong to watch it.
Is it going to be as fun to read the threads about how JJ undid everything Rian established if you have not seen the movie?  Rey Kenobi...

Seriously: We all know we shouldn't rubberneck when we pas an accident... but it is sometimes hard not to look.

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Reply #862 on: June 27, 2018, 09:41:57 AM

It seems to me JJ can undo the parentage thing easily enough without actually undoing the emotional impact of TLJ's take on it. e.g., her parents can still be nobodies, but her grandpa could be Kenobi (e.g., Obi-Wan had a courtly romance with someone in the middle of his Tatooine exile but then maybe some kind of near-miss exposure of Luke's presence on the planet makes him knuckle down and return to being a loner; his lover goes off somewhere and has a child who is just some ordinary schlub. Which is still a pretty dark kind of story. But I still prefer a return to the idea that the Force isn't genetic for the most part).

One or two things in the film on a rewatch annoy me more than they did on first viewing; but the stuff that annoys fanboys of a certain point of view the most is still the stuff that I love absolutely the best.
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Reply #863 on: June 27, 2018, 10:51:51 AM

The casino scenes in particular are just SO MUCH WORSE when you realize they have almost no impact on the story and are so heavy-handed as to be almost blatant political propaganda. And I say this as someone who would pretty much agree with the message.

Conversely, I like the back and forth between Rey and Kylo a lot more now, and it's a shame they wasted so much time on sidetrack failures like Poe's mutiny and the casino tripe.

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Reply #864 on: June 27, 2018, 11:20:20 AM

It seems to me JJ can undo the parentage thing easily enough without actually undoing the emotional impact of TLJ's take on it. e.g., her parents can still be nobodies, but her grandpa could be Kenobi (e.g., Obi-Wan had a courtly romance with someone in the middle of his Tatooine exile but then maybe some kind of near-miss exposure of Luke's presence on the planet makes him knuckle down and return to being a loner; his lover goes off somewhere and has a child who is just some ordinary schlub. Which is still a pretty dark kind of story. But I still prefer a return to the idea that the Force isn't genetic for the most part).

I don't understand why Rey has to be the child of a main character. Or grandchild.

I don't get the fascination.

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Reply #865 on: June 27, 2018, 01:08:28 PM

It seems to me JJ can undo the parentage thing easily enough without actually undoing the emotional impact of TLJ's take on it. e.g., her parents can still be nobodies, but her grandpa could be Kenobi (e.g., Obi-Wan had a courtly romance with someone in the middle of his Tatooine exile but then maybe some kind of near-miss exposure of Luke's presence on the planet makes him knuckle down and return to being a loner; his lover goes off somewhere and has a child who is just some ordinary schlub. Which is still a pretty dark kind of story. But I still prefer a return to the idea that the Force isn't genetic for the most part).

I don't understand why Rey has to be the child of a main character. Or grandchild.

I don't get the fascination.


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Reply #866 on: June 27, 2018, 01:31:01 PM

The casino scenes in particular are just SO MUCH WORSE when you realize they have almost no impact on the story and are so heavy-handed as to be almost blatant political propaganda. And I say this as someone who would pretty much agree with the message.

Conversely, I like the back and forth between Rey and Kylo a lot more now, and it's a shame they wasted so much time on sidetrack failures like Poe's mutiny and the casino tripe.

The casino scenes are bad enough when you factor they left the White Ford Bronco of spaceship chases to go find a guy they never actually found.

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Reply #867 on: June 27, 2018, 01:32:59 PM

I love that Rey is related to no one of importance. I desperately hope they leave it that way. Just pointing out that JJ can shoehorn in a lineage for her without shitting actively on TLJ's other narrative moves.
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Reply #868 on: June 27, 2018, 01:51:45 PM

The casino scenes in particular are just SO MUCH WORSE when you realize they have almost no impact on the story and are so heavy-handed as to be almost blatant political propaganda. And I say this as someone who would pretty much agree with the message.

Conversely, I like the back and forth between Rey and Kylo a lot more now, and it's a shame they wasted so much time on sidetrack failures like Poe's mutiny and the casino tripe.

The Chocobo chase scene in this movie was the dumbest thing I'd seen in this kind of movie since the barrel chase in the Hobbit. Just brutal.

I get that they wanted the climactic act to tie together the resistance escape with Luke & Rey coming back together with the group. The problem was the opening scene was the start of that same escape, so half the movie, the whole Resistance plot time was a long boring slow speed chase. They could've had Finn and Poe doing something more interesting, maybe some espionage mission or something in the first half then started the evacuation+chase halfway through.

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Reply #869 on: June 27, 2018, 05:21:36 PM

....I don't understand why Rey has to be the child of a main character. Or grandchild.

I don't get the fascination.

Sticks with the theme
Also, JJ was clearly setting it up in TFA, and Rian threw his ideas away... leaving things set up in TFA, such as Rey hearing Ben's voice, in the WTF zone.

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Reply #870 on: June 27, 2018, 05:37:38 PM

"Kylo Ren lied to confuse you and sway you towards the Dark Side." There, retconned, next?

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Reply #871 on: June 27, 2018, 05:46:25 PM

"Kylo Ren lied to confuse you and sway you towards the Dark Side." There, retconned, next?

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The joke is that you can retcon anything to make TLJ work.  Except you are making the joke in spite of that being exactly what TLJ did, retcon everything.

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Reply #872 on: June 27, 2018, 07:13:58 PM

The only thing that would make TLJ work is if it was considered non-cannon to the star wars universe

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Reply #873 on: June 28, 2018, 12:27:47 AM

TLJ or Jedi the Retconning

Of all the things, burning the Jedi books and how Luke was portrayed made me the most sad.  I don't care about Rey's parentage. I do care about flushing all the SW backstory forever away.
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Reply #874 on: June 28, 2018, 12:51:18 AM

TLJ or Jedi the Retconning

Of all the things, burning the Jedi books and how Luke was portrayed made me the most sad.  I don't care about Rey's parentage. I do care about flushing all the SW backstory forever away.

The Jedi books weren't burned...

Luke is the best part of the movie
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