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Reply #105 on: April 15, 2017, 11:22:30 AM

TFA was too close to the original but still good, fan service aside (I'm a fan).  But there's no need for this sequel to be an explicit remake-homage to ESB.  I'll be disappointed if it's a beat for beat copy.
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Reply #106 on: April 15, 2017, 11:31:31 AM

If it's "accept what life is telling you, evolve and grow as you must, be what you are meant to be", there's a lot of story-telling goodness as well as ethical wisdom in there. "Be open to life around you, learn from how life grows and suffers and wants": ah yss. That's basically spaghetti Westerns replacing the old white-hat/black-hat Westerns and it's good.

That's my hope, too.

And I think it's the way they're going, because that puts in a path for Rey to bring Kylo back into balance.

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Reply #107 on: April 15, 2017, 06:41:01 PM

How do you go from 1min trailer to ESB remake I mean, did I miss the super extended version? Did ESB include grey jedis and I missed that part? It's like I'm reading these forums taking crazy pills.

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Reply #108 on: April 16, 2017, 05:43:55 AM

Some people love shitting on a thing. Others decide that their childhood trumps others so anything derivative of or not fully validating their childhood is crap. Then some folks are just assholes.

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Reply #109 on: April 16, 2017, 01:12:05 PM

How do you go from 1min trailer to ESB remake I mean, did I miss the super extended version? Did ESB include grey jedis and I missed that part? It's like I'm reading these forums taking crazy pills.

You're correct there's going to be original content, but my concern was that the overall story will be ESB (and I hope I'm wrong).  Luke as "your father ", Hoth opening with AT-ATs but on a desert planet.  We'll see, hope for the best.
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Reply #110 on: April 16, 2017, 05:16:41 PM

I'm sure it'll have lightsabers too, fucking unoriginal bastards.

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Reply #111 on: April 16, 2017, 05:34:08 PM

To be fair, I thought it was a pretty clear ESB style teaser with the cave, the training, the friends in trouble.

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Reply #112 on: April 16, 2017, 10:08:11 PM

To be fair, I thought it was a pretty clear ESB style teaser with the cave, the training, the friends in trouble.

The At-Ats are a bit too ESB for my tastes but the rest of it didn't give me ESB vibes at all.

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Reply #113 on: June 21, 2017, 09:32:22 AM


I miss Good Eats.  *Sniff*
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Reply #114 on: June 21, 2017, 09:45:56 AM

I think they decided on a plan years ago when they bought Lucas Arts to have their big core trilogy follow a similar story arc to episodes 4-6. This was a decision made at the highest levels of Disney Corp as a safe way to begin recouping their $4 billion outlay for the franchise. This plan is not going to be deviated from now unless episode 8 completely flops (not likely). They have more artistic leeway in the spinoff movies, and then after this first trilogy is completed.
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Reply #115 on: June 21, 2017, 11:07:54 AM

That's exactly what it is. They didn't quit, they were fired, mostly for riffing instead of sticking to the script.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-why-han-solo-movie-directors-were-fired-1015474

Kennedy had also expressed concern not only at the direction of some of the action scenes, but Clarke and Aldean's performances. "wooden" is apparently used in the descriptions, though I haven't read the base articles yet. Apparently there were also concerns about hiring Lord and Miller in the first place, based on what I've read in the last few hours.

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When relaying the information provided to them by their source, The Weekly Planet Podcast did insist that while the script for the still untitled Han Solo is “very funny,” Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy has told directors Phil Lord and Christopher Miller that both the action and acting are “weak.”
http://www.inquisitr.com/4288434/is-han-solo-film-in-trouble-poor-acting-and-action-allegedly-forces-early-reshoots/

The problem with the popularity of Star Wars has always been that people want to put their own spin on things. Taking pieces of the universe and turning it sideways to fit your own vision of 'how things should work.' That was one of my largest complaints about the EU and what turned it into a godawful mess. While it's nice for fan fiction and one-off side projects, it's a terrible approach for a body of work.

Imagine Sam Jackon's The Hobbit, someone's Kirk/ Spock slash fiction, or any of Moffat's Who work becoming the driving vision for those universes. While there's room for them in fandom, you don't want them to be the backbone. That's the situation Disney and LFL are always going to be in and why they're going to work to protect and project a singular vision.

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Reply #116 on: June 21, 2017, 12:24:43 PM


 Moffat's Who work becoming the driving vision for those universes.


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Reply #117 on: June 21, 2017, 12:26:59 PM

Sam Jackon's The Hobbit,

Say precious one more time mother fucker, I dare you! I double dare you!

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Reply #118 on: June 21, 2017, 12:30:35 PM

Fuck.  Second time this week I've done that. I was talking about Danny Glover with friends and kept calling him Donald. Getting old is shit.

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Reply #119 on: June 23, 2017, 03:39:10 AM

Ok, so this is probably only funny to me and the other one in a million people who are into ASMR videos and Star Wars, but this is so fucking brilliant on multiple levels it made my sides hurt from laughing so I'm linking it here. Don't judge me.

Kylo Ren's ASMR Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69IuXVx-Tfk

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Reply #120 on: June 23, 2017, 09:29:47 AM

aurialnauts always do good stuff. If you haven't watched it, Jedi Dance Party is up through ESB now.

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