Brolan
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I'll be honest, while I saw the rest of it coming, the Bernard thing was a pleasant surprise. Or would have been if I hadn't been reading this thread so much. I don't think Arnold's dead though. He's 'alive' in some sense of the word for sure. If he is it would have to be in the original Abernathy right? He's the one who got triggered by the picture and started the chain of events.
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They lobotomized Abernathy tho.
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Teleku
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Biggest reveal I'm waiting for is whats going on with Elsie and now security dude. They've intentionally left everything around that way to vague.
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Ironwood
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Abernathy responded that way because he was at the original massacre. I suspect.
Does anyone have a better pic of the guy 'in the middle' of the Ford/Arnold pic ? I wondered after the event if we were meant to know him...
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MrHat
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Man, even knowing/suspecting what was coming, the delivery of the twists have been so well done.
Ford is just an absolute menace. He keeps saying/showing how there is essentially no difference between humans and hosts by killing both at will. I hope that they show a bit more of the limits of his power so we don't have to guess about God.
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Yeah, it's the most Hannibal he's been since Hannibal.
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Threash
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Well that was pretty much perfect.
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HaemishM
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Well that was pretty much perfect.
Agreed. Fucking brilliant from start to finish. I have no idea where they go from here.
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Chimpy
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Well that was pretty much perfect.
Agreed. Fucking brilliant from start to finish. I have no idea where they go from here.
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HaemishM
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It's complicated.
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MahrinSkel
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When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was bullshit!
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Some of it I saw coming (Maeve and "Wyatt"), some I didn't (who was inserting the rogue commands).
Well played. Only way it could have gotten more meta is if they were playing "The Rains of Castamere" during Ford's toast.
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Abagadro
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Awww yes.
And can I just say that most TV critics suck, particularly when it comes to sci-fi. It's like its in a foreign language to them.
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Awww yes.
And can I just say that most TV critics suck, particularly when it comes to sci-fi. It's like its in a foreign language to them.
Most reviews I've seen have been fairly positive. A lot of reviews that came out before the premiere were a bit tempered though I think because critics had only gotten to watch the first few episodes (four episodes I think). But yeah, amazing first season. Probably right up there with Season 1 of True Detective for me.
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Setanta
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Absolutely fucking brilliant.
I'm tempted to say that they shouldn't go to season 2 because every episode in S1 was perfect.
Edit: I remember watching the original movie on TV in the late 70s... It may be just me but I think the music playing in Maeve's scenes was a different take on the gunslinger's them from the original... that or I grep up on too much Tangerine Dream :D
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Setanta
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I watched the pilot. It wasn't what I expected, but it seems to be slowly setting up what I expected. I liked some of what I saw, but a lot of it was retread of other fiction that doesn't need to be retold over a series when an episode or movie handles it well. I'm going to pass for now. If the reviews are strong after the season I can go back and watch it later - the joys of HBO.
I think you should :D
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Great first season and my only complaint is that I can't really see how they can make the second season as good.
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Agreed that it was really good. My concern is though that they've no idea where the story is actually going. Huge potential for this show to go Lost level of stupid on us real quick.
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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All in all, this season 1 is about one of the best seasons of TV I have watched. Just purely enjoyable all the way through.
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HaemishM
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I don't think Maeve saying that Felix is human is something we can take for absolute truth. It's been shown multiple times that hosts can be made to see other hosts as human, Bernard being just one example. If someone has been scripting Maeve's actions, then clearly that person could script a belief that Felix isn't a host even if he is.
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Setanta
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"No man is an island. But if you strap a bunch of dead guys together it makes a damn fine raft."
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Brolan
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Great news, hopefully it is for full roles and not just flashbacks.
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Quinton
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I enjoyed it. Not a perfect show, had some clunky bits, but overall good stuff.
I do hope they take advantage of the setup of the world and the upheaval in ep10 to go some new places in the second season. At the very least explore some different structures -- season one was about the loops and escaping them (and the multiple timelines worked with that), but season two can go new places and do new things now.
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Goddamn great episode, great first season. Any show that gets so many people talking and thinking about so many things is a good one. Perfect story telling too, bringing all the arcs together in the finale. One thing I'm still unclear on:
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Regarding the post credit scene:
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Threash
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I saw her bumping up aggression and pain tolerance, didn't see mortality.
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Bunk
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Could be Pain Tolerance was the one I was thinking. Either way, seemed pretty obvious that it made her more "durable"
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Mandella
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Well that was a worthwhile watch! Don't have much in the way of observations to add except
This was True Detective first season good, and that worries me for their second season. The bar might be set too high now. I would have actually preferred this as a mini-series, with the story wrapped up after twelves episodes or so.
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kaid
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Regarding the post credit scene:
I figured it was something like that. Like when ford said a phrase to teddy who went from near dead to raring to go instantly.
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Agree with all, wonderful series so far. They went far beyond what I thought they would be doing with this, so I'm eagerly looking forward to the next seasons. Having said that, given the pace of story telling, I'm still sort of concerned how they will drag this out four more seasons. But they've more than impressed me, and if they really have already sketched out the next five seasons, I give them the benefit of the doubt.
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Regarding the security ineptitude, it's probable that these guys have never experienced anything like this before, nothing's happened like it in 30 years, they were never expected to be anything more than for show. They're probably minimum wage chucklefucks who were too dumb to get jobs as techs. They're lucky those guns even worked at all.
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Regarding the security ineptitude, it's probable that these guys have never experienced anything like this before, nothing's happened like it in 30 years, they were never expected to be anything more than for show. They're probably minimum wage chucklefucks who were too dumb to get jobs as techs. They're lucky those guns even worked at all.
Agreed. I got the impression Thor's brother was the only one with real training, plus
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