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Reply #35 on: October 10, 2016, 11:10:16 AM

But... we are fucks.  huh

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Reply #36 on: December 20, 2016, 01:20:38 AM

Teaser trailer.

Trailer looks good.

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Reply #37 on: December 20, 2016, 10:27:18 AM

Teaser trailer.

Trailer looks good.

True, but I think we know that Scott is still good at creating worlds and visuals. That department certainly wasn't why Prometheus was less than stellar.

Anyway, I am not trying to be negative. Just...saying..

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Reply #38 on: December 20, 2016, 10:50:54 AM

Ridley Scott's only producing. Dennis Villenueve is directing (he did Sicario and The Arrival).

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Reply #39 on: December 20, 2016, 01:29:23 PM

True, but I think we know that Scott is still good at creating worlds and visuals. That department certainly wasn't why Prometheus was less than stellar.

Anyway, I am not trying to be negative. Just...saying..

I know, that's why I very carefully just said that the trailer looked good. I'm far too old and cynical to have high expectations of anything any more.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #40 on: December 20, 2016, 01:41:02 PM


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Reply #41 on: December 20, 2016, 08:13:36 PM

Ridley Scott's only producing. Dennis Villenueve is directing (he did Sicario and The Arrival).

This may save it. both were good flicks.

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Reply #42 on: December 20, 2016, 09:41:57 PM

The teaser was almost nothing, no way to get an impression either way imo.

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Reply #43 on: December 21, 2016, 12:07:23 AM

I wish Deckard weren't in this. Not just because I've never been particularly taken with Harrison Ford, and I'm sick of Hollywood's obsession with nostalgia, but also because his presence probably means they're going to pursue the whole "Deckard is a replicant" angle, and I don't actually want or need that spelled out for me.

But whatever, even though I think he peaked with Prisoners, and has been trending downwards since, I like Villeneuve. He's yet to actually do something I didn't enjoy, and it looks like they're probably going to set this at least partially on the off world colonies (the desert scene seems a bit too orange tinted to be anything but Mars), which could be fun.
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Reply #44 on: December 21, 2016, 12:23:32 AM

The only thing I can think of that would make Harrison Ford's return worth it is if they in some way turned Deckard into the book's Mercer character but I doubt they are willing to take any risks when it comes to the new movie's plot so Ford is there just for nostalgia's sake. At least the lead actor (Gosling) and the director (Villeneuve) are competent so it hopefully won't turn out to be a Total Recall remake type of disaster...  Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #45 on: December 21, 2016, 08:40:30 AM

It looks like this is supposed to be set much later than the original, so wouldn't that make the Deckard is a replicant theory completely ridiculous? Since replicants were only supposed to live 5 years, even the ones that didn't know they were a replicant?

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Reply #46 on: December 21, 2016, 08:57:45 AM

It looks like this is supposed to be set much later than the original, so wouldn't that make the Deckard is a replicant theory completely ridiculous? Since replicants were only supposed to live 5 years, even the ones that didn't know they were a replicant?
Maybe it was a change in the final cut, but the secret replicants didn't have the expiration date according to the closing Harrison Ford voiceover on the one I watched recently.

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Reply #47 on: December 25, 2016, 11:33:15 AM

Yeah I remember that from Fords voice over from the first time I saw blade runner. I think, it was something like "But the doc told me she was special, no maximum life span. I don't know how long we had together, but..."

Personally all that "Ford is a Replicant" stuff is bs anyway. Whether he is or not makes jack difference to the plot of the movie, its just for people to be smug about as they "understand"

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Reply #48 on: December 25, 2016, 12:31:01 PM

Yeah I remember that from Fords voice over from the first time I saw blade runner. I think, it was something like "But the toc cold me she was special, no maximum life span. I font know how long we had together, but..."

Personally all that "Ford is a Replicant" stuff is bs anyway. Whether he is or not makes jack difference to the plot of the movie, its just for people to be smug about as they "understand"

Isn't there like a 7 bluray set that has every version of the film released?  I feel like Ryan Gosling has half of Collin Farrell's acting range. So he's gonna be a robot person right?

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Reply #49 on: December 25, 2016, 07:03:47 PM

There was a 5 disc collectors edition released in 2007 that had all of the various versions, including a new cut of the film with some unreleased footage.

https://www.amazon.com/Blade-Runner-Five-Disc-Ultimate-Collectors/dp/B000K15VSA

There's also a 30th Anniversary 4 disc blu-ray/dvd release what comes with a fancy picture book, and a silver model of the cop car from the film that I will apparently be buying momentarily.

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Reply #50 on: May 08, 2017, 01:40:20 PM

Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCcx85zbxz4

Wow. I'm excited for this one, more than I thought I would be. After seeing Arrival and Sicario, I like the director choice. It feels right thematically, too.

There seem to be lots of characters, which seems out of place. The original really only had a handful of people and that helped to grow the story.
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Reply #51 on: May 08, 2017, 01:46:31 PM

Now that's a good looking movie.

Ridley Scott should let other people direct his sequels more often.

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Reply #52 on: May 08, 2017, 01:51:53 PM

I'm cautiously pessimistic. They definitely got the tone and the visual design down, but the story could really torpedo this one.

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Reply #53 on: May 08, 2017, 02:02:47 PM

This has all the hallmarks of a film that has just enough promise to give you hope ... only to crush that hope at release. 

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Reply #54 on: May 08, 2017, 02:22:27 PM

I actually felt like the trailer was terrible. But I didn't think TOO MUCH of the Arrival's trailers either. That might just be this directors MO, give away nothing in a trailer.

This thing made it look like a summer blockbuster, which is most certainly should not be.
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Reply #55 on: May 08, 2017, 02:37:09 PM

Not sure why it shouldn't look like a summer blockbuster.  The original Blade Runner was intended to be exactly that.  It was released in the summer of '82 by the same producer who released Star Wars and Alien and was released against other summer blockbusters like Wrath of Khan.
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Reply #56 on: May 08, 2017, 02:39:57 PM

I should be more clear then.

A summer blockbuster in the vein of Armageddon rather than in the vein of the original Bladerunner.

More pointedly, while not a summer blockbuster, this trailer made it feel like Ghost in the Shell. But people on the inside are saying the movie is fucking amazing. So, basically, I'm not too concerned based on the trailer.
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Reply #57 on: May 08, 2017, 03:16:19 PM

It looks just OK to me. It has the look a little off for me though. The first movie had the look of a Society that was trying to be clean but was dirty, whereas this is very clean but its put a haze over it to try and make it look dirty, if you know what I mean. I guess a good sequal moves on from the story and this looks like it will wallow in it. We will see.

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Reply #58 on: May 08, 2017, 03:49:37 PM

Villeneuve gets the benefit of the doubt from me.
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Reply #59 on: May 08, 2017, 04:16:39 PM

Villeneuve gets the benefit of the doubt from me.

Basically this.
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Reply #60 on: May 08, 2017, 05:38:58 PM

A benifit of the doubt trailer for me. No because it's blockbustery, but because it's very "philosophy out loud". Didn't seem very subtle.

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Reply #61 on: May 09, 2017, 06:05:14 AM

I actually felt like the trailer was terrible. But I didn't think TOO MUCH of the Arrival's trailers either. That might just be this directors MO, give away nothing in a trailer.

I had the exact opposite reaction.  From, "I want to ask you some questions", to the line about being "special", I feel like they already gave away the whole damn movie.

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Reply #62 on: May 09, 2017, 09:04:29 AM

Looking too clean while trying to be dirty is the vibe I got from the trailer (and have always gotten from this movie since hearing Gosling was the lead).  I've always been a stickler for this and is why I really push more "analog" forms of filmmaking.  Kind of partly why the BlackMagic cinemacam got so popular... it just produced a more gritty realism image, though it's digital.

Movies like the original BladeRunner, The Crow, and Apocalypse Now, for instance, really achieved an "effed up reality" that is tough to find these days due to the cost of filmmaking in art.  Film is expensive and the rarer it gets the pricier it gets.  So I don't think it'll ever make a comeback tbh.  That said, there are tricks to mitigate this that producers are seemingly unwilling to try.  It's almost like they'd rather just tell a story rather than focus on the medium. 

But, the trailer hints at some really profound stuff that might work (akin to the subtlety of Arrival).  If they go the stylized angle, rather than pure cyberpunk action, I do think it'll be a great flick.  The key to good cyberpunk has always been style; that's the whole point of that type of existence in the 1st place.

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