THE FAPPENING (9/11 for Celebrity Privacy) (NSFW) (Obviously) ITT: NO TITTIES

[schild]

I use 'monkeymaster' everywhere.

[Strazos]

I'm going to go ahead an claim an general exemption for not connecting the dots on JLaw or Cuoco.

 - I hate Big Bang Theory and believe it to be a pox upon television - I think I've only made it through one complete episode. However, Cuoco is hot.

 - I've seen three of JLaw's movies, but the name just didn't click. For no good reason whatsoever, I kept confusing her with Hilary Swank and Jennifer Garner. 

[Samwise]

It's not strange for that reason.  It's strange because there are unlimited amounts of free boobies already on the internet if that's what you're looking for.

Seriously?  I'll try to explain as if I were Riker and you were Data: human boobies (or other parts belonging to either/any gender, because this is true for most people regardless of gender or sexual orientation) are far more interesting when they're attached to someone whom you find interesting for other reasons, like an attractive face, a charismatic personality, or some extraordinary talent.  Humans also frequently find things they aren't supposed to see more interesting (not even just sexually; almost any sort of existing interest is magnified when the object of that interest is hidden or forbidden in some way).  None of this is even unique to humans; if I were sufficiently motivated I could dig up some cool links on similar behavior demonstrated by other animals (not just our primate cousins but other mammals and birds).

Anyway, this is not some shocking new behavioral phenomenon we're talking about here.  I can only imagine people are pretending it is as part of the big game to see who can be more outraged by the scandal of the moment.  I think what makes it newsworthy isn't so much the pictures themselves (because, again, that shit's happened before and it will happen again) as the fact that it's shaking so many people's confidence in all the mysterious cloud shit that most of them have hitherto trusted unquestioningly.

[angry.bob]

The general reactions to this thing are fascinating -- how long has it been since the last incident like this?  I mean, the scale is huge, but people are acting like the entire concept of guys wanting to see boobies is new and strange to them.  This shit's been happening since the invention of photography.

The invention of cave drawingswomen you mean. 

Fixed that for you.

[angry.bob]

the fact that it's shaking so many people's confidence in all the mysterious cloud shit that most of them have hitherto trusted unquestioningly.

Yeah, for some reason people trust "the cloud", but when I point out that it's just a better PR name for "the internet" it may well be a nicer name for "herpes". What will be really great is if/when Western Digital's Cloud drives (yeah, wireless external 4tb drives) catch on and you can drive around trying to snoop on people in your area's porn storage.

[Surlyboi]

Dragonpussy12345

[schild]

I can't help but view iCloud as Schrödinger's Data Vault now since everyone inside is both clothed and has a dick in them at the same time.

[Phildo]

Pshaw, everyone knows that the four most popular passwords are "love", "sex", "secret" and "god"

[Samwise]

the fact that it's shaking so many people's confidence in all the mysterious cloud shit that most of them have hitherto trusted unquestioningly.

Yeah, for some reason people trust "the cloud", but when I point out that it's just a better PR name for "the internet" it may well be a nicer name for "herpes". What will be really great is if/when Western Digital's Cloud drives (yeah, wireless external 4tb drives) catch on and you can drive around trying to snoop on people in your area's porn storage.

Protip: Windows Media Player will automatically set up a media server with one innocuous-looking menu command that makes all your media available on your local network.  You have to specifically tell it to exclude stuff or it'll scan your system and helpfully share everything.  If one of your neighbors did have an insecure wireless network (which is rare now since things are way more secure out of the box than they used to be) odds are good their porn (if any) is accessible.  Shit, that was common when I was in college and that was a long time ago now.

[Surlyboi]

Shhh... it's all the fruit company's fault.

[schild]

It's not all their fault but the apparent lack of brute force protection is gonna make a lot of lawyers a lot of money.

[Goreschach]

Not necessarily. A lot of people use really shit passwords. Like impressively shit.

[Salamok]

It's not all their fault but the apparent lack of brute force protection is gonna make a lot of lawyers a lot of money.

Who really knows if it is their fault, all I know is a read a press release from apple and dropbox was mentioned many times.

edit - bah the fact that it wasn't apple smearing the fuck out of dropbox spoilt my stupid sarcasm: http://webmarketingschool.com/hollywood-hack-dropbox-likely-source/ although I wonder who would trust the opinion of someone who styles themselves as an "internet marketer & security expert".

[Samwise]

Shhh... it's all the fruit company's fault.

It's true, I should have mentioned iTunes has the same feature.

 Really the dumb thing in that whole scenario is having an unsecured wireless network.  I use a MAC filter on mine for extra paranoia, and I don't even keep anything worth stealing that's not also encrypted on disk.

[Evildrider]

[schild]

Saw that on reddit, raccoon should really be adjusting his junk in the pic. Lost opportunity.

[Evildrider]

http://www.reddit.com/r/fappeningphotoshops

Lol.. This is some funny yet disturbing stuff. NSFW obviously.

[schild]

wow. Mama JLaw is just. wow.

[angry.bob]

wow. Mama JLaw is just. wow.

There's a version with suckling piglets floating around. Or puppies, I'm not sure. I didn't open it up because some things even I don't want to see.

[Evildrider]

The ET one is the one that made me laugh the hardest. 

[schild]

wow. Mama JLaw is just. wow.

There's a version with suckling piglets floating around. Or puppies, I'm not sure. I didn't open it up because some things even I don't want to see.

Same album as the one I said above. It's strange, but doesn't doesn't even enter spacedicks level.

[Pagz]

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/2/6099005/charity-turns-down-reddits-pity-money-for-looking-at-stolen-celebrity

 

[Lakov_Sanite]

It's cool, cancer isn't that bad right?

[bhodi]

If you count pixels, I've probably seen more boobs than my entire lineage put together. It's a wonderful time to be alive.

OK so - let's talk about the leak for a second. Apple is spinning the fuck out of this and trying to pin the blame on the users and/or insecure passwords. This is complete bullshit.
Some of you may or may not know exactly how it was done. It comes in two parts. (technical source here and here)

The first is to get access to the account.

Apple has flubbed in several ways here by not enabling rate limiting on several of it's systems. Rate limiting is basically timing out or taking longer for each attempt at something, kind of how you get temporarily locked out after 3 password attempts or how each attempt pauses for a longer and longer delay. By not rate limiting a service, you leave it vulnerable to brute forcing since you can hammer it thousands of times a second until you get in. There's no specific evidence of which specific service was used, but investigations have revealed at least two potential paths - the password recovery page and the FindMyIphone API. Either of these would have worked to gain control of someone's apple account, and, as investigations continue, more and more things are coming onto the radar.

The second is to get access to your phone's data.

This is an issue of convenience over security. Basically, it's a apple feature that if you drop your phone in a toilet you can recover all data including pictures, text messages, and contacts, up to the last time you synced, onto the new replacement phone. By default, apple also invites you to sign up to their iCloud service, so that if you are having the supremely bad day of dropping your phone into the toilet and then also dropping your laptop down the stairs in a panic to get your wet iphone into a mason jar of rice, your critical social media is still safe. Unfortunately, as the tech-savvy among us note, once your data is in the "Cloud" it's pretty much beyond your control.

Security and privacy are hot commodities ripe for exploitation and sale. You can sell 0-days for tens of thousands of dollars and governments buy them up like candy. So, of course there is a piece of software that someone wrote and sells "to law enforcement only" that allows you to emulate someone's iPhone and download all that backed up data. All you need is the password, which you got in the first step.


There is probably a 0th step where you identify the account of whatever chosen person you're trying to get at, and rumor has it that there's plenty of un-encrypted identifiable information swimming around on wifi at places like awards shows where stars and starlets congregate.


Apple is guilty for not making the disadvantages clear about having someone's iPhone data (arguably the most important and sensitive data people posess) in the cloud. When you boot up, they simply ask for your icloud password and invite you to create an account if you don't already have one - without specifying the potential hazards. That, coupled with failing to rate-limit or secure essential account traffic makes them extremely culpable in my book.

[Lantyssa]

... if I were sufficiently motivated I could dig up some cool links on similar behavior demonstrated by other animals (not just our primate cousins but other mammals and birds).

See Cat.

[Khaldun]

That seems right to me. But I don't think it's unfair to also say, "Look, it's not like these pictures just uploaded themselves to some guy's account: people have been systematically working to find and steal them."

I'm kind of weirded out that so many of you don't seem even faintly inclined to cast shade on whomever spent time breaching Apple's weak security/celebrity's weak passwords. Leave it for Politics, I guess, but to use the common metaphor that people are knocking around, if someone left their door unlocked, you might have less sympathy for them if their house got robbed and the robbers took a photo album full of nude shots that the people living there took of each other. But you'd still be (I hope) thinking that it's immoral to go into someone's house and take the photo album--that an unlocked door isn't the equivalent of inviting people in and telling them to take whatever they like, with your permission.

[MahrinSkel]

Mostly because "Hackers gonna hack," if there's data out there that is at least mildly interesting, somebody is going to try and get access to it.  How far they'll go depends on the level of "interesting", and nudes of female celebrities, especially the ones that have never done nude in movies or photo shoots, has a high level of interest.

At a certain point, you just have to accept hackers as a force of nature, something that is always there, doing what it does.  Yes, some particular person or group of people just brought the wrath of the DoJ on themselves in a big way, but unless you're on that investigative team, that is not particularly interesting to discuss.

--Dave

[Salamok]

It is pretty obvious that whoever did this was completely in the wrong.  That said the leaving your house unlocked is not really a fair comparison, maybe if your house could magically be next door neighbors with all 7 billion people on the planet...  

Anyone want to take bets that if they ever catch who did this that person will do far more jail time than was handed out in the news of the world phone hacking/blackmail the government scandal?

[angry.bob]

It is pretty obvious that whoever did this was completely in the wrong.  That said the leaving your house unlocked is not really a fair comparison, maybe if your house could magically be next door neighbors with all 7 billion people on the planet...  

Anyone want to take bets that if they ever catch who did this that person will do far more jail time than was handed out in the news of the world phone hacking/blackmail the government scandal?

I can guarantee it. The guy that leaked two very boring, barely nude pictures of Scarlett Johanson got ten years in prison. This leak was the very barest of the content this person/group has as shown by screenshots and it was still pretty big. Plus, these were being sold. This stuff was almost exclusively softcore selfies and shots. One of the leakers still managed to make $60,000 in BC if the screenshot is to be believed. He claimed he had some hardcore stuff that he was trying to sell for a lot more. He posted censored screenshots and they were pretty clearly who he claimed they were.

[Yegolev]

The ET one is the one that made me laugh the hardest. 

This single shop makes the entire thing worthwhile.

[Samwise]

I'm kind of weirded out that so many of you don't seem even faintly inclined to cast shade on whomever spent time breaching Apple's weak security/celebrity's weak passwords. Leave it for Politics, I guess, but to use the common metaphor that people are knocking around, if someone left their door unlocked, you might have less sympathy for them if their house got robbed and the robbers took a photo album full of nude shots that the people living there took of each other. But you'd still be (I hope) thinking that it's immoral to go into someone's house and take the photo album--that an unlocked door isn't the equivalent of inviting people in and telling them to take whatever they like, with your permission.

I'm kind of weirded out that nobody has mentioned the peculiar blueish color of the sky, personally.

[Ironwood]

Rayleigh Scattering, dude.  Refraction.  Though, that's just, like, my opinion, man.

And, Khaldun, I think your overgeneralizing and being over sensitive to the issue.  I think it's pretty much a given that doing this is scrote work of the highest order.

[HaemishM]

Wait, didn't someone say that Maisie Williams was in these pics? As in Arya Stark definitely underage and what the fuck would you be thinking releasing those pictures to the public Maisie Williams?

Also, yes, there's a whole lot more hullabaloo over this in the media than the whole NSA just constantly collects data on everyone and everything and nobody gives a fuck story. Snowden is freezing his tits off over in Russia going, "SHIT! I should have put some JLaw in my releases."

[Hutch]

Wait, didn't someone say that Maisie Williams was in these pics? As in Arya Stark definitely underage and what the fuck would you be thinking releasing those pictures to the public Maisie Williams?

Depends on how old Maisie is when the pics are taken. 17 isn't underage in England.

[Rasix]

Wait, didn't someone say that Maisie Williams was in these pics? As in Arya Stark definitely underage and what the fuck would you be thinking releasing those pictures to the public Maisie Williams?

Also, yes, there's a whole lot more hullabaloo over this in the media than the whole NSA just constantly collects data on everyone and everything and nobody gives a fuck story. Snowden is freezing his tits off over in Russia going, "SHIT! I should have put some JLaw in my releases."

A certain Snowden leak implied that NSA analysts would keep and pass around nudes they found while conducting surveillance.  Of course that was in the same vein as his "the NSA, and not the Syrian regime, took down Syria's internet by accidentally crashing a router" leak.  Both were based on overheard conversations and not any sort of document.  The former is a bit more probably than the latter.

Heh, I'm glad I didn't see anything of Maisie.  

You gotta wonder how much of this data was possibly compromised by assistants or other underlings.