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Reply #35 on: February 28, 2014, 11:21:31 AM

The casting director for this show must be an ass man - because every woman that shows any nudity has an ass you could bounce quarters off of.  DRILLING AND MANLINESS

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Reply #36 on: February 28, 2014, 12:33:41 PM

Two more episodes, though?  Couldn't they have given us twelve?  Or even ten?  Although I'm kind of interested in seeing what they do for a second series.  I'm supposing that it's not just new actors but new directors and writers each season?

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Reply #37 on: February 28, 2014, 01:05:27 PM

The writer/exec producer is staying on. New actors, characters, the director is moving to feature films I think.

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Reply #38 on: February 28, 2014, 01:19:17 PM

It's a shame if they can't get Fukunaga back.  His direction has been spotless.  That great tracking shot was his idea.

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Reply #39 on: March 06, 2014, 12:48:39 PM

Wow. This show kicks ass. That tracking shot was amazing, though at the time I didn't even catch it - I was completely immersed.

Also.... Holy rack, batman.

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Reply #40 on: March 10, 2014, 12:23:37 AM

Very satisfying ending. Still processing it a bit though.

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Reply #41 on: March 10, 2014, 12:34:15 AM

Maybe would have been better if perhaps...

Yah, still great though.

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Reply #42 on: March 10, 2014, 10:11:49 AM

It didn't get as crazy as I was expecting/hoping, but it was still good.

It will be interesting to see if in the next season another branch of the Tuttles is involved and they explore further the King in Yellow and keep a consistent world lore for the separate stories.
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Reply #43 on: March 10, 2014, 09:27:58 PM

When shows like Lost try to pull the "it's about the characters not the plot" you can tell it is pure bullshit to cover bad writing, but here? yeah, it really was about the characters more than the plot.

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Reply #44 on: March 11, 2014, 11:11:21 AM

I liked the ending very much.  It didn't make me feel horrible and frustrated at the end.  I loved this show.

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Reply #45 on: March 11, 2014, 12:34:27 PM

It coulda ended a lot of ways and I woulda been ok with all of em. Great show.

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Reply #46 on: March 13, 2014, 11:51:39 AM

Absolutely fantastic film noir style ending. If that's all we get out of these characters, I'm thoroughly satisfied with it.

I do hope next season keeps the King in Yellow undercurrent as the bridging narrative device. I think it wants to be about characters and how they deal with that but without going all horror/supernatural right from the start, building into it with a slow burn.

And I reiterate, if McConaghey doesn't win best actor Emmys and whatever other awards this show goes up for, it will be a goddamn crime. His breakdown in the wheelchair was just mind-blowing.

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Reply #47 on: March 14, 2014, 05:22:36 AM

Goddamn.  I really enjoyed the hell out of that.  

As much as I wouldn't mind spending more time with Marty and Rust, I appreciate a nice, solid, self-contained story that ends in a satisfying way.  

I'm really curious to see what they do in season two.

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Reply #48 on: March 17, 2014, 10:29:30 AM

Not going to read this thread because I am only on episode 4 - but holy shit this show.

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Reply #49 on: March 17, 2014, 11:43:22 AM

I think the next one they should follow the black detectives, this could be their first big case...kinda do a quick recap of everything from their point of view and then off we go!

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Reply #50 on: March 17, 2014, 01:44:45 PM

I think the next one they should follow the black detectives, this could be their first big case...kinda do a quick recap of everything from their point of view and then off we go!

I'm really interested in seeing what they come up with for the next series, too.  They'll have to work hard to beat this season.

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Reply #51 on: March 17, 2014, 01:46:34 PM

And I reiterate, if McConaghey doesn't win best actor Emmys and whatever other awards this show goes up for, it will be a goddamn crime. His breakdown in the wheelchair was just mind-blowing.

My wife and I felt this way too. We both thought that the show easily had high end movie quality production and acting. It was crazy good for a television show.

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Reply #52 on: March 17, 2014, 03:41:37 PM

You know, I've been thinking about this for a while. "For a television show" doesn't have any meaning anymore. Movies have become blockbuster budget line-items on balance sheets - there is so little artistry left in movies these days - the movie industry has become a parody of itself. With $200 million on the line, studios can't afford to take chances on a flop. Indie films aren't getting most of the buzz they used to. TV is where the real creativity is happening, which is why I think you are seeing big names like McConaghey acting in series work. There's just so much good work being done, especially in the pay-TV and direct-TV markets (like Netflix and Amazon Prime's offerings).

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Reply #53 on: March 18, 2014, 07:49:37 AM

Yeah.  HBO has been kicking the fuck out of most movies for ages, to my mind.


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Reply #54 on: March 18, 2014, 10:07:51 AM

I agree.  Almost all of my fav shows have been on channels other than the regular network channels in the last few years.  HBO, SHO, AMC, etc.  Since the bad storms last month, our reception has been in and out.  Sometimes the channels are so bad that they're not watchable.  We have FIOS and they refund the tv part after the bill is paid.  It doesn't affect On Demand, though, so that's what we mostly watch.  This past week they gave us a deal that made having all the premium channels for $1 less than what my sister pays for just HBO and SHO.  I got to see some of the Banshee and Black Sails series and, even though they're not awesomely great, they're better than most of what comes on the network channels.  And no adverts.  :)

I have no idea when we'll get channels back completely.  Five poles have to be replaced and rewired and it's a joint effort between the electric company and Verizon.  That alone spells "never" in my mind.

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Reply #55 on: March 20, 2014, 11:14:56 AM

Brilliant piece of work. What is the theory on how HBO manages to pull this off over and over again? Romantically I like to imagine that unlike everywhere else HBO just actually gives artists the freedom to actually attempt to make art instead of worrying about focus groups and profits.

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Reply #56 on: March 20, 2014, 07:49:54 PM

Well they have a model that isn't based upon ratings, so that helps. As long as their subscriber numbers are what they are they are swimming in money and can do whatever the hell they want.  I think that leads to taking chances and just finding people they want to work with (Milch, Simon, Chase, David) and just letting them do their thing.  FX and AMC to a more limited degree have tried to do the same thing with some decent success.

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Reply #57 on: March 21, 2014, 09:19:46 PM

Brilliant piece of work. What is the theory on how HBO manages to pull this off over and over again?

HBO shows don't need to sell to everyone, they need to sell to people with the money and willingness to subscribe to HBO. TV is very concerned with certain demographics, mostly young people, because those are the people advertisers are interested in. HBO doesn't do ads so who advertisers are interested in doesn't matter - the point of the shows isn't to deliver commercials to get people to go buy mountain dew.

Basically HBO doesn't have to appeal to the lowest common denominator. In fact that would be a bad thing, as the LCD wouldn't pay for HBO so targeting them would only hurt sales overall.

 

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Reply #58 on: March 24, 2014, 10:27:56 AM

I was kind of disappointed with parts of the final episode then I remembered this:

The writer of the thing has said that the serial killer is the thing he is least interested in in the whole story.  It's really about the detectives.

It's completely true.

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Reply #59 on: March 24, 2014, 10:38:01 AM

They did a really good job of keeping it about the relationship between the detectives but not at the cost of an interesting, creepy and exciting serial killer story. 

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Reply #60 on: March 24, 2014, 10:45:07 AM

I'm glad;  I'm really enjoying it thus far and, frankly, we have Hannibal if we want to see the other side of it.

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Reply #61 on: March 24, 2014, 10:53:58 AM

I think Hannibal is supposed to be about the relationship between him and Will, but they left the gruesome in which is always a bit distracting.  Not that I don't enjoy gruesome now and then.  True Detective eliminated the gruesome and we're not distracted from the main focus.  We get the creepy story, which is always fun, but I found most of my feeling of anticipation came from waiting to see what the detectives what the detectives did next, not the clever style in which the next victim was killed.

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Reply #63 on: March 24, 2014, 10:27:54 PM

I think Hannibal is supposed to be about the relationship between him and Will, but they left the gruesome in which is always a bit distracting.  Not that I don't enjoy gruesome now and then.  True Detective eliminated the gruesome and we're not distracted from the main focus.  We get the creepy story, which is always fun, but I found most of my feeling of anticipation came from waiting to see what the detectives what the detectives did next, not the clever style in which the next victim was killed.

I think I might have been stoned when I typed this.

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Reply #64 on: March 25, 2014, 12:47:00 AM

This is the first TV series in a while I've been really gripped by (I am not good at must see TV generally). The finale actually forced me to sit down and just watch everything unfold as opposed to TV being on while I did other stuff. I actually turned off my hob and left dinner uncooked about the point they started going through the house. They really did a great job on 1) making the show about the detectives and 2) creating a believable and engaging view of crazy (maybe possibly?) Lovecraftian type shenanigans, leaving the viewer in the same position as the characters with regards to "was that just a really fucked up guy or is there something more?"

Now I need to go read the King in Yellow.

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Reply #65 on: March 25, 2014, 02:02:10 AM

Finally watched the last episode, been avoiding this thread until that :)

Yeah, this was mostly excellent. Very glad they didn't go down the supernatural route. The cinematography was excellent at times, as was the directing. The acting was just superb throughout.

I do have a couple of niggles. Of course I'm going to say I was disappointed with the female characters, I'll stop feeling that way when it's not unusual to have women that are as complex and capable as the men in a show/film. I also thought that the directing was a bit inconsistent throughout it - I had to look it up just now to make sure it was the same director for all episodes (it was - Cary Fukunaga) since they felt so different from each other at times. Maybe that was more to do with writing or practical constraints though.

Anyway, this is definitely another production showing that TV undoubtedly has the potential to rival film in creating great works. Looking forward to season two :)

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Reply #66 on: May 07, 2014, 06:03:55 PM

Just finished this. Exceptional.

Better and more exciting than Game of Thrones. Which I can say, since it was basically 6 people talking to eachother.
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Reply #67 on: May 08, 2014, 09:44:21 AM

We're just getting around to working through this--it's one of those shows we have to watch after the kid has gone to bed, and so most nights I'm usually too tired to get through it. Really great. Fantastic storytelling and visuals.
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Reply #68 on: June 13, 2014, 11:02:05 PM

Finally sat down and finished the last few episodes this week.  Just absolutely exceptional.
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Reply #69 on: July 29, 2014, 08:05:27 PM

I've finally started watching this (only the first episode so far). Absolutely exceptional, can't wait to see the other episodes.

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