No Man's Sky

[Typhon]

I didn't think you could patent a formula, so I went digging.  Apparently you can, but wikipedia has this to say, "The formula was obtained by generalizing the superellipse, named and popularized by Piet Hein, a Danish mathematician. Currently, the superformula is patented by Gielis, [2] but the patent was withdrawn in 2006 because of the patent fees not being paid.[3]", which I found hysterical.


Edit: it does seems to be withdrawn in European Patent Registrar, here - Status   The application is deemed to be withdrawn.  Database last updated on 20.07.2016

Hello Games is a British video game developer and publisher based in Guildford, England.

Laughing more now

[MrHat]

See the claims here.

[Typhon]

Thanks Hat, an ars article here is saying the same thing - you can't patent (or copyright) a formula, but you can patent methods of use of the formula, which I take to be the same as a concept patent which I fucking hate.  Hey, dickhead, instead of providing no value to anyone anywhere (and actually stifling innovation), how bout you write a library that makes the use of your formula that people can then license and just avoid the whole patent-troll lifestyle?  Oh yeah, because that requires actual work, fucking cocks.

[zwohand]

Good news. Apparently it's a real game after all. It's got menus and all.

http://imgur.com/a/n7hpc

[KallDrexx]

It's essentially Destiny's UI.  

Also trade video (I think where most of those are from) is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=S_Oaf6Ol8U4

[Margalis]

The formula is pretty cool:

http://paulbourke.net/geometry/supershape/

(Scroll down for pictures)

They are claiming now that they don't use the formula at all, but previously they gave interviews claiming that they did. At some point someone is probably going to have to look at actual code. (Or settle)

[Malakili]

Well, I got some Steam cards as gifts, so I it made the decision to buy this thing easy. We'll see how it turns out. I'm such a sucker.

[KallDrexx]

For those of you on the fence but leaning to buy, Apparently the PC release is several days after the PS4 release so if you pre-order you will still have time to cancel after reviews come out.

[schild]

Eh, they're both August 9th.

[Velorath]

Eh, they're both August 9th.

It got pushed back until the 12th on PC.

[schild]

FUCKING SERIOUSLY?

BUT THE FDA SHIT WRECKS MY JOB ON AUGUST 8TH

EVERYTHING WAS SO PERFECT

*ENTERS RAGE SPIRAL*

[Malakili]

Steam store still says available August 9.

[Falconeer]

"Survive" trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jpHldhY_V0

[KallDrexx]

Some random guy got a PS4 copy early and sold it to some random dude for $1,200.  Random dude made a video of the intro.

Apparently he was streaming on twitch but it only took 7 minutes for him to get banned for life.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Since when does daily motion remove videos?

[KallDrexx]

I'm not sure how much I want to give away in case people here do care about the game, but doesn't care about getting spoiled about some things here are some notes from the guy who bought the leaked copy: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/4vgxaf/the_chap_who_got_no_mans_sky_early_has_discovered/

[schild]

What a shitty person to get the game early though, he gives absolute garbage answers.

[Mandella]

Since when does daily motion remove videos?

I *think* he "voluntarily" removed it himself. I could be misinterpreting an article I quickly scanned however (I'm actually trying to avoid spoilers -- go figure).

[Goreschach]

https://www.twitch.tv/kengi01

More leaks incoming, apparently.

[Goreschach]

This texture pop in is nextgen as fuck.

[Goreschach]

14092982987234986234986234 planets and this guy won't fly somewhere that isn't brown.

[Goreschach]

This is like an mmo that skipped the launch and jumped straight to the part where every zone is empty.

[schild]

thesonofbrock : CROOKED SEAN MURRAY TRIED TO SELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AN INDIE GAME FOR $60. NOT WHEN I'M PRESIDENT! - @realDonaldTrump

[Soln]

Preordered on PC.  Hopefully I won't be travellng for work when it launches.

[Samprimary]

no man's sky gets to beat star citizen to the market for crushing space sim disappointment

[HaemishM]

no man's sky gets to beat star citizen to the market for crushing space sim disappointment

So will actual space flight. 

[Sky]

I can't understand why people get so disappointed by games when they're so often mediocre. I just go in expecting to get my usual 8-10 hours out of it. If I get more, it's a good game. But if I get less, it's not necessarily a bad game. Once in a while a Witcher 3 happens and I remember that games can actually be awesome.

I'm just looking forward to flying a space ship around and goofing off for a while. It's procedural, it's bound to be shallow. People should read f13 more.

I admit I've been reading the Steam discussions because they're hilarious. I'm not sure I could expose my mind to what's going on at reddit.

[Ard]

I'm just baffled on this one in particular, since they've been pretty clear on what it is and is not for the most part.  I do not get the hype, and I'm someone that likes minecraft and exploring.  This game is basically just 3D Starflight, for better or worse.

[schild]

Lots of people are going to be doing this with No Man's Sky:



It's completely their fault.

[Sky]

Ohnoes every planet isn't packed with handcrafted content at the level of Witcher 3 etc FAIL WORST GAME EVAR

[Lakov_Sanite]

Ohnoes every planet isn't packed with handcrafted content at the level of Witcher 3 etc FAIL WORST GAME EVAR

I think a problem I would have with NMS is one I have with starbound.  I loved games such as minecraft Minecraft and Terraria for not just the survival but the building and creating. With NMS afaik you explore a world, mine some shit to pay for upgrades and move on, no real building but exploration is fun right? Except since everything is generated on the fly there is often a blandness to it, starbound is the same with it's near infinite worlds and random civilizations but every time you get to one it just feels like a hollow cut and paste. 

Minecraft and Terraria were also very cut and paste with the randomly generated stuff but because it was one map you end up mplanting roots, creating your own mark on that world.  With Starbound and NMS there's no mark, you see a neat planet and move on. I know in starbound you can create your own home base but you are disconnected from the greater universe, just as you are in NMS when you see some awesome planet and just, fly away.

[Pennilenko]

I am one of the people who cannot figure out what people expect from this game. It is clearly a procedural game, about exploration, with an end goal of making it to the center of the galaxy. There are people I know in real life who literally thought this was going to be some space opera, choose your own adventure type thing.

My game plan is going to be to explore towards the center, while upgrading my stuff along the way.

[Father mike]

For me, the real question has become will the dashing of false hopes -- and the screaming attendant there unto -- lead to cutting the price to a point I can get interested in this?

[Samprimary]

when people realize it is an indie game they were tricked into a full box price sale on, it will only be a matter of time until it's like 20 buxks

and you won't have to worry about missing out on the multiplayer aspect because the game is a stripped-down shell of their failure to make it multiplayer

[KallDrexx]

Supposedly many review sites claim they are not being given copies for review

Also if anyone is interested in a VOD made by a streamer streaming earlier today (though it's potato quality) https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Em1ySZY5q7LXExNE9OaDNEVXc/view