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Reply #630 on: November 26, 2015, 07:54:34 AM

I console commanded 10k encumbrance and I don't feel the least bit bad.

I'm going to do this in my 2nd game. I also turn on god mode when building and don't feel bad at all.

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Reply #631 on: November 26, 2015, 09:22:30 AM

Odd thing: I'm enjoying myself, but the more time I spend with this, the more I miss New Vegas. I think I'll go boot that up for a replay as soon as I'm done with the FO4 main storyline. Now if only those side quests would stop delaying me...
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Reply #632 on: November 26, 2015, 09:32:40 AM

Yeah New Vegas had much better factions and interlocking storylines. The factions and "living world" aspect of this aren't nearly as good. I love the increased frequency and drama of the random battles around you - the BoS vertibird patrols adds immensely to that, but the factions feel kinda irrelevant.

Oh and I dropped the difficulty back down because complete bullet sponge enemies aren't much fun. An area that will receive lots of modding attention I reckon.

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Reply #633 on: November 26, 2015, 11:57:35 AM

The storyline really falls on its face after a certain point. Why the fuck am I even talking to these chuckleheads, I have a legion of power armor suits, an arsenal of high tech weaponry and enough followers to stomp the entire wasteland. I really hope they take that into account eventually.
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Reply #634 on: November 26, 2015, 12:02:02 PM

Odd thing: I'm enjoying myself, but the more time I spend with this, the more I miss New Vegas. I think I'll go boot that up for a replay as soon as I'm done with the FO4 main storyline. Now if only those side quests would stop delaying me...
This is the feeling I get, too. The shitty UI in this just wears on me and the story isn't really compelling at all; the core gameplay is fun but when I come home from work, I don't find myself launching FO4. I'm hoping when there are enough mods out I can give it a proper playthrough; I'll probably console-command my carrying capacity up and ignore fast travel, too.

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Reply #635 on: November 26, 2015, 12:29:27 PM

Aw fuck, this quest shit got completely disjointed, it's like they're desynched or something. I'm asked to choose from two factions but only one is offering related quests in the first place.

edit: checked a walkthrough. It's all a big mess.

edit2: fuck me now I'm pissed off. What a joke of a story. Maybe I'll reinstall Mass Effect 3. For the story.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2015, 01:32:48 PM by jakonovski »
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Reply #636 on: November 26, 2015, 03:44:14 PM

This is what you get for trying to play the actual story quests  awesome, for real
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Reply #637 on: November 26, 2015, 04:26:49 PM

I was doing BoS quest and it removed me as an ally for one of my settlements. No way to get it back either, which rather sucks.

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Reply #638 on: November 26, 2015, 06:05:27 PM

I was doing BoS quest and it removed me as an ally for one of my settlements. No way to get it back either, which rather sucks.

Yeah, i just found out i can't get max rep with Danse if i don't go for the brotherhood ending.  I've been dragging this dumbass around for half the game because he gives the best perk and now i'm screwed out of it.

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Reply #639 on: November 26, 2015, 09:35:34 PM

I just can't get in to the game. I've tried a few times but I get bored. Where is somewhere in the world I can go soon after the start to get the hook sunk in?
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Reply #640 on: November 27, 2015, 03:35:22 AM

This is what you get for trying to play the actual story quests  awesome, for real

The side quests weren't good either. I was constantly searching for something that wasn't completely insular and failed, so I turned to the main quest because at least the Minutemen were cool. But there really is nothing to pull the Commonwealth together. I guess New Vegas gave me unrealistic assumptions as to what I can expect from a Fallout game.

I guess I'll scour the remaining bits of wasteland at some point, but for now it's Pillars of Eternity again.
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Reply #641 on: November 27, 2015, 03:47:53 AM

I just can't get in to the game. I've tried a few times but I get bored. Where is somewhere in the world I can go soon after the start to get the hook sunk in?

The hook is clearly different for everyone. It sinks in a lot of people from the get go, or when they stumble on the first thing that makes it feel like the wasteland has a life of its own. To me, it happened the moment I left Sanctuary and got to the Red Rocket fuel station. If it didn't for you so far, it's probably not gonna happen regardless of the quest or the place. Anyway, to not leave anything unattempted, I suggest you head for Diamond City, although I don't believe that will change much: characters and stories here only work if you are already invested in the atmosphere. If you are looking to get hooked, I don't think you will be.

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Reply #642 on: November 27, 2015, 04:23:12 AM

Yeah I dont think I will. This one fells like it's missing the magic of New Vegas and Skyrim.
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Reply #643 on: November 27, 2015, 05:34:22 AM

So, I'm loving my replay of Fallout 3 while I wait for Christmas and, well, this game.  And I'm hearing all the love for New Vegas which I've never played.  So I check steam and it's 66% off.  I'll be trying that tonight then....

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Reply #644 on: November 27, 2015, 05:39:19 AM

I just can't get in to the game. I've tried a few times but I get bored. Where is somewhere in the world I can go soon after the start to get the hook sunk in?

For me it was getting to Concord, starting the the Minuteman thing and getting the power armor and mini gun.
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Reply #645 on: November 27, 2015, 05:47:51 AM

The faction stuff is not affecting my fun at all.  I've been marvaling at how many side quests there are and how many interesting places actually exist on the map.  It seems like there is something interesting to explore any place you go.
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Reply #646 on: November 27, 2015, 06:03:30 AM

I love cleaning out raider camps for some reason. There's a great kind of little miniplot on some of the terminals where they're all connected to each other.

Holy crap, though, the Forged ones were really difficult. I wasn't expecting that when I sniped one of the ones outside.
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Reply #647 on: November 27, 2015, 07:01:37 AM

I just can't get in to the game. I've tried a few times but I get bored. Where is somewhere in the world I can go soon after the start to get the hook sunk in?

For me it was getting to Concord, starting the the Minuteman thing and getting the power armor and mini gun.
This was a great moment for me too, until I died to the Deathclaw 10 times. Ended up having to kill all the raiders with my pistol just so I could save all the minigun ammo for the bullet sponge.

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Reply #648 on: November 27, 2015, 08:34:58 AM

I might be a hoarder.


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Reply #649 on: November 27, 2015, 10:19:39 AM

Damn, I have yet to find a single T-60 suit anywhere and there you have 3 of them. You bastard.

The faction stuff is not affecting my fun at all.  I've been marvaling at how many side quests there are and how many interesting places actually exist on the map.  It seems like there is something interesting to explore any place you go.

Faction stuff was bullshit in NV AND Skyrim, (as was the "you must die now" ending of FO3 when you've got a supermutant who can deal with shit instead of you.)

 Hated it in all of them and actively avoided it in all the games until I finally "had" to finish the story because I felt my interest in the game itself waning. If you don't like the world it's not likely anything else is going to suck you in, least of all the "You must do things with one group to solve 'the big problem'" faction bullshit.

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Reply #650 on: November 27, 2015, 10:24:20 AM

I haven't even been to Diamond City yet and I am 20 hours in.

I kind of resented the hook for the main story at the beginning, so I'm sort of just pretending it didn't happen and I'm just a random lone wanderer.
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Reply #651 on: November 27, 2015, 10:31:33 AM

I just can't get in to the game. I've tried a few times but I get bored. Where is somewhere in the world I can go soon after the start to get the hook sunk in?
I was hooked the second I could start disassembling Sanctuary (which is immediately after reaching it).

I might be a hoarder.
Only seven?  Bah!

FYI for anyone that doesn't know, if you pickpocket the fusion core from any power armor, the wearer will get out and leave the armor, and more importantly, the frame behind.  You can do this with friendlies as well...

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #652 on: November 27, 2015, 11:28:03 AM

Only seven?  Bah!

I've got 16 frames there (the one gap left has been filled since I took that pic) and I've left another couple behind in the field because my garage was full  awesome, for real

Only 1 complete set of X01 so far, but 3 other sets missing only assorted legs & arms. Fully upgraded X01 Mk VI is pretty nice, but the way that DR works in this game is weird and I can't quite get my head around it. From what I can tell it's much, much harder to make yourself near-immune to damage in the way that you could in 3/NV.

I've played around with the various helmet & torso mods too and my preference is, undoubtedly, the Targeting HUD for the helmet, and Reactive Plates for the torso. The Targeting HUD highlights things far, far further away than VATS can pick them up. Would be nice if it distinguished between hostile & friendly a bit better though smiley

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Reply #653 on: November 27, 2015, 12:11:40 PM

I kind of resented the hook for the main story at the beginning

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Reply #654 on: November 27, 2015, 01:20:36 PM

I kind of resented the hook for the main story at the beginning



If you accept the premise then there is no reason for you to ever stop and do any side quest ever. No one is stopping to go clear out random points of interest or casually explore the wastes when their son has been kidnapped. It is totally at odds with how I play these games.
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Reply #655 on: November 27, 2015, 03:01:23 PM

Agreed, I thought it was pretty stupid too. It's a decent hook for a linear, cutscene fest ala Last of Us but not a great one for an open world game.

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Reply #656 on: November 27, 2015, 03:13:13 PM

I just can't get in to the game. I've tried a few times but I get bored. Where is somewhere in the world I can go soon after the start to get the hook sunk in?

For me it was getting to Concord, starting the the Minuteman thing and getting the power armor and mini gun.
This was a great moment for me too, until I died to the Deathclaw 10 times. Ended up having to kill all the raiders with my pistol just so I could save all the minigun ammo for the bullet sponge.

Waited till the deathblow was in front of a car, then blew the bitch up. The explosion took down a third of his health.

I know the hook's in me because the random radiation storms that tend to pop out of nowhere sound a lot like a hydraulic lift. I heard one walking down the street the other day in real life and instinctively started looking for a place to take shelter.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #657 on: November 27, 2015, 07:11:12 PM

Agreed, I thought it was pretty stupid too. It's a decent hook for a linear, cutscene fest ala Last of Us but not a great one for an open world game.

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Reply #658 on: November 27, 2015, 07:17:06 PM

True story rk-kun desu~

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Reply #659 on: November 27, 2015, 07:42:08 PM

Hmmm...

Do I really want to play more of The Sims: Nuclear Wasteland.

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Reply #660 on: November 27, 2015, 08:25:33 PM

Or maybe something that doesn't involve a dialog bug.

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Reply #661 on: November 27, 2015, 08:56:47 PM

I've got 16 frames there (the one gap left has been filled since I took that pic) and I've left another couple behind in the field because my garage was full  awesome, for real
Alright, you win.  I only have 10, including my complete X01.

I'm waiting for a mod that makes the Targeting HUD friend-or-foe, but I agree it's still the best.  Recon is a close second since you can tag stuff in case it hides or goes into stealth.  I need another level to get Science 4, but I think my torso mod is going to be a Stealth Boy.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #662 on: November 27, 2015, 09:03:43 PM

Or maybe something that doesn't involve a dialog bug.

Anything for less whining.  It's like you've plunged your dick in a vat of broken glass marinating in lemon juice and have decided your only way out is fucking it to death.

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Reply #663 on: November 27, 2015, 09:39:49 PM

I seem to be in some kind of loop where the Brotherhood of Steel quartermastery quest is taking me to the same place every time.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #664 on: November 27, 2015, 09:41:43 PM

Or maybe something that doesn't involve a dialog bug.

Anything for less whining.  It's like you've plunged your dick in a vat of broken glass marinating in lemon juice and have decided your only way out is fucking it to death.

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