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Reply #1085 on: August 05, 2014, 08:01:30 AM

That would explain all the content being cut out.

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Reply #1086 on: August 05, 2014, 08:03:56 AM

That would explain all the content being cut out.
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Reply #1087 on: August 05, 2014, 08:06:19 AM

Everything that's ever been done or rather not done in this game just gives me the impression that Blizzard's content pipeline is broken.

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Reply #1088 on: August 05, 2014, 09:04:44 AM

Go with November. They'll release after Blizzcon and this will be the big product they hype, because what else do they have in the pipleine? 

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Reply #1089 on: August 05, 2014, 09:06:17 AM

Go with November. They'll release after Blizzcon and this will be the big product they hype, because what else do they have in the pipleine? 

That stupid MOBA game? Hearthstone stuff? Probably a Starcraft xpac.

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Reply #1090 on: August 05, 2014, 09:22:54 AM

Hearthstone just did their X-pac. No big "ooh, ahh" factor to add.
HOTS is in beta, but not getting traction so also no big "ooh, ahh" factor. Maybe they'll try and force it but I can't see building Blizzcon around it.
SC2 reveal of a new expansion I could see, it's been a year since Heart came out so releasing Legacy next year could happen.

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Reply #1091 on: August 05, 2014, 11:13:28 AM

That would explain all the content being cut out.


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Reply #1092 on: August 05, 2014, 11:48:45 AM

I believe there's another expansion slated for Diablo 3, and there's the Protoss expansion for Starcraft 2.
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Reply #1093 on: August 05, 2014, 02:20:31 PM

Q2 earnings call, WoW down to 6.8m subs.

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Reply #1094 on: August 05, 2014, 02:25:51 PM

Q2 earnings call, WoW down to 6.8m subs.

People were predicting negative or zero earnings for Q2, not sure what the actual number will be.

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Reply #1095 on: August 05, 2014, 02:52:31 PM

They lost almost 9000 subs/day. I expected quite a bit due to content drought, but that seems awfully high. I guess I'd have to look at other expansions to see what the percentage of loss was and see how that compares.
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Reply #1096 on: August 05, 2014, 03:43:22 PM

People were predicting negative or zero earnings for Q2, not sure what the actual number will be.

I don't understand what you mean by this. ATVI had 970 million net revenue for Q2, above their predictions, and last year took in over 4 billion in revenues. I'm no financial wizard yet (studying to be an Accountant) but ATVI has been a steady market performer and is sitting on a large, stable financial infrastructure.

According to Yahoo statistics, their dividends have increased year over year since 2010. Subscription numbers on WoW may be slipping, but there's far more products in play than this. 20 million copies of Diablo III has sold worldwide.

Edit: Did you mean reduced revenues compared to last year?
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Reply #1097 on: August 05, 2014, 04:03:46 PM

What I'm reading is they posted 0.06 EPS up from some 0.02 projected EPS with $650M in revenues.

I'll have to see the report to tell you more, but without seeing the splits, I can't tell you where the revenue came from.

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Reply #1098 on: August 05, 2014, 07:59:43 PM

Looked into it a little more. The quarter was basically floated by the D3 xpac. WoW's numbers dropping got blamed on Asia, which I find a little funny.

I'm still of the opinion that many things with this company are a house of cards. The debt, the pipeline, and the fact the investors likely have no idea what's coming with this next xpac could be a big problem in 2015.

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Reply #1099 on: August 05, 2014, 08:08:27 PM

Edit: Did you mean reduced revenues compared to last year?

Yes.

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Reply #1100 on: August 06, 2014, 11:44:56 AM

Subscription revenue is up and box sales down, though.

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ACTI/3381433901x0x773936/367e59a1-e228-468c-bd15-6f5f7a04aa6c/Q2_2014_ATVI_Earnings_Press_Release.pdf

E: Looks like it's the Activision side that's underperforming, to be honest.
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Reply #1101 on: August 06, 2014, 11:58:42 AM

10 year anniversary preview:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/15107686/gearing-up-to-celebrate-10-years-of-world-of-warcraft-06-08-2014

  • Limited time BG of Tarren Mill/Southshore
  • 40 man LFR of Molten Core with mount reward for killing Ragnaros
  • Pet for anyone who logs in during anniversary

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Reply #1102 on: August 06, 2014, 11:59:07 AM

I agree, I think Activision's pipeline is way worse than Blizzard's currently. Titan is a setback for 2 years from now, but the current people playing WoW will still give them massive revenue for WoD, even if people like myself aren't interested in coming back to play it.

The real question is how fast they discount WoD. I don't think it will change sub numbers at release much, but if they offer a 50% price break at 6 months, they would have a solid shot at pumping up summer revenues again.

EDIT: Also the reason I think Sub revenue is up is Hearthstone. They count all their royalty, DLC, sub, and other income into that category. I think Hearthstone card payments would go there.
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Reply #1103 on: August 06, 2014, 02:03:13 PM

10 year anniversary preview:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/15107686/gearing-up-to-celebrate-10-years-of-world-of-warcraft-06-08-2014

  • Limited time BG of Tarren Mill/Southshore
  • 40 man LFR of Molten Core with mount reward for killing Ragnaros
  • Pet for anyone who logs in during anniversary



Pretty cool. I wonder how significant the MC revamp will be. Also wonder whether this will arrive before or after WoD.
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Reply #1104 on: August 06, 2014, 02:36:21 PM

It should be before wod because a 40man lfr is likely a max level thing and if wod comes before it in october a lot of people are gonna miss out

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Reply #1105 on: August 06, 2014, 03:49:34 PM

WoW's anniversary is in November, and I'd expect WoD to be out before that.

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Reply #1106 on: August 06, 2014, 03:52:41 PM

Then it won't give people much time to hit max level before the anniversary raid, which seems like a bad idea.

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Reply #1107 on: August 06, 2014, 03:57:36 PM

Their expansion releases are all over the place, month-wise, so it's hard to really speculate. I guess WoD could drop in December right after the anniversary event.

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Reply #1108 on: August 06, 2014, 04:58:04 PM

GIven what they're offering that would make the most sense.

Which means it willl drop late October and only those worthy enough to grind to max will be able to do it.  awesome, for real

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Reply #1109 on: August 06, 2014, 07:42:57 PM

Interesting that the Anniversary pet is the Molten Corgie, and not Hoggs (the mini hogger) like everyone thought.

I imagine MMOC is allready in full swing with the "recycled content" bitch threads :P

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Reply #1110 on: August 06, 2014, 07:50:26 PM

Interesting that the Anniversary pet is the Molten Corgie, and not Hoggs (the mini hogger) like everyone thought.

I imagine MMOC is allready in full swing with the "recycled content" bitch threads :P

You rang? http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1567413-Admit-it-Warlords-is-starting-to-look-a-lot-more-interesting-lately

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Reply #1111 on: August 14, 2014, 10:31:29 AM

Apparently it's coming on Nov 13. Hope you like SoO.  awesome, for real

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Reply #1112 on: August 14, 2014, 10:37:35 AM

So we can expect 6.0 to drop in October.

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Reply #1113 on: August 14, 2014, 10:58:52 AM

Watched the well done cenematic but every time I think of the "plot" for WoD I just get angry.  So it's not time travel it's an alternate world, does that mean there's an alternate azeroth, alternate sargeras, alternate titans?  How exactly is this alternate world just created? There are so many things just pulled out of Metzen's ass it makes me dumber for even thinking about it. 

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Reply #1114 on: August 14, 2014, 11:22:48 AM

I think the alternate orcs build a portal and it connects to the canon universe. Wormhole scifi. Which is a plot device I can get behind.

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Reply #1115 on: August 14, 2014, 11:28:59 AM

Watched the well done cenematic but every time I think of the "plot" for WoD I just get angry.  So it's not time travel it's an alternate world, does that mean there's an alternate azeroth, alternate sargeras, alternate titans?  How exactly is this alternate world just created? There are so many things just pulled out of Metzen's ass it makes me dumber for even thinking about it. 

Garrosh goes back in time with the help of the Bronze Dragonflight stuff hinted at on Timeless Isle, makes changes to past-Draenor which creates an alternative timeline version of Draenor, alterna-Draenor builds a dark portal to link up with current-Azeroth and attacks us. It's mostly nonsense, an excuse to revisit old characters/settings without modifying the canon history or 60-70 version of Outlands.

Trailer was still pretty cool though. Sounds like 6.0 will arrive a bit before Nov 13th and will include a level 90 update of UBRS, a world event, and maybe the anniversary stuff.
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Reply #1116 on: August 14, 2014, 11:33:47 AM

See I get the "goes back into the past"  but how in hell do the non demon orcs even build the dark portal let alone but it to travel into "the future"  and why would they even do that, past azeroth would be infinitely easier to conquer with future knowledge. 

Then there's the WHOLE other point that now we have parallel worlds and two versions of EVERYTHING. 

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Reply #1117 on: August 14, 2014, 11:38:51 AM

I have no idea. The WoW community can't agree on much, but people seem pretty unanimous in feeling that the plot for WoD is stupid.
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Reply #1118 on: August 14, 2014, 11:45:02 AM

Storywise WoW went to shit after they decided that instead of expanding on the universe they'll just make it blow up and then make an expansion out of a joke. I remember thinking, I want to know where the electric mummies come from in TBC.

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Reply #1119 on: August 14, 2014, 11:50:55 AM

I remember thinking, I want to know where the electric mummies come from in TBC.



Yeah they are intergalactic merchants but man, that would be new content so fuck that. Let's just re-hash old storylines and maybe add a troll dungeon.

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