Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen turns out to be a real game (real bad, geddit?)

[KallDrexx]

Yet he managed to hire 5 designers at an extremely pre-production stage.

Nah. Those are a bunch of buddies that got together to do a kickstarter. You think those guys have 401ks? Not a chance.

Also they did pre-production work for the kickstarter pitch. All those concept pics, the unity engine demo, etc. That was a non-trivial amount of work. Nothing compared to making a real game, much less a MMO, but you don't knock that out in an afternoon.

Concept pics are artists, unity engine demo is the engineer.  Neither of which I criticized as having too many of.

[Daeven]

lol at 5 designers for 1 engineer.  

That's not an Engineer, that RockStarDevDude! An engineer shows up to work every day, understands what they are supposed to do and competently executes. RockStarDevDude sparkles. Dazzles. They are able to drown the higher-ups with a verbal deluge of Engineering techno-babble which allows them to promise Everything! Nothing! while while delivering bajillions of lines of goobleygook code. Preferably in a unique framework that no-one understands. Using generators.

No my friends, this is no Engineer.  This is Elvis in Las Vegas sitting on his throne awaiting Nirvana.

[Draegan]

Yet he managed to hire 5 designers at an extremely pre-production stage.

Nah. Those are a bunch of buddies that got together to do a kickstarter. You think those guys have 401ks? Not a chance.

Also they did pre-production work for the kickstarter pitch. All those concept pics, the unity engine demo, etc. That was a non-trivial amount of work. Nothing compared to making a real game, much less a MMO, but you don't knock that out in an afternoon.

Actually a lot of those screenshots they provided they said they knocked out the night before.

[Niedar]

With assets bought off the unity3d store for 50 or 75 dollars.

[Sky]

Maybe they can bring over some behavioral scientists from TUG!

I honestly hope this game does succeed in being made. I know there are some people who really dig the niche and I think the market as a whole benefits from having a wide spectrum available. To put a point on it: if the hardcore EQ1 fanbuoys have their own place to piss in, they won't be pissing on whatever mmo you enjoy.

To each their own. Please!

[DraconianOne]

Funded (after 3 days)

[sam, an eggplant]

Funded (after 3 days)

Damn, that's a hell of a pitch. I just backed it myself.

[satael]

Funded (after 3 days)

For a second I thought you meant that Pantheon had gotten funded 

[Nonentity]

They just posted about their 'Crusader' class...

Style: Proficient in most melee weapons and can cast beneficial spells when following a god. Can equip two shields for ultimate defensive abilities.

what

[HaemishM]

I... wut?

Why the fuck would equipping TWO ACTUAL SHIELDS help at all? Is the class just meant to curl up in a fetal shield stance and get whaled on?

Although, to be fair, that's a pretty good description of what tanks in EQ1 were forced to do.

[DraconianOne]

Funded (after 3 days)

For a second I thought you meant that Pantheon had gotten funded 

TBH, I have no idea what it is but someone mentioned it on the previous page as being "the next thing to overtake Pantheon". So, well, yeah - they were right.  I don't think it's even an MMO though.

[KallDrexx]

I... wut?

Why the fuck would equipping TWO ACTUAL SHIELDS help at all? Is the class just meant to curl up in a fetal shield stance and get whaled on?

Although, to be fair, that's a pretty good description of what tanks in EQ1 were forced to do.

It works for pvp-ing newbies in Dark Souls 

And there's this

(what can't you find on google)

[HaemishM]

I love the Internet.

[IainC]

Topical news. SOE announced that Vanguard is closing just today.

[Hutch]

Topical news. SOE announced that Vanguard is closing just today.

PIYF

If I thought Pantheon: Rizzle Mo Fizzle was going to get funded, designed, developed, and published, I'd make a crack here about SOE clearing the decks to make room for it.

[HaemishM]

How did that fucking game last for 7 years? 

[Hutch]

One year per subscriber 

[Senses]

Wouldn't it just be saucy if Brad had in fact known this was coming all along...timing his opportunity to step up and save the day with the one last true hope for Nut-Stomping MMO's?  I don't think any one person has hurt his own fans more than Mr Brad McQuaid.

[Sky]

How did that fucking game last for 7 years? 

You should've read the Rift Alpha forum. Nonstop Vanguard (or WoW of course).

[SurfD]

Topical news. SOE announced that Vanguard is closing just today.

For what it is worth, Brad (or someone claiming to be him) made a few posts in the Pantheon thread at MMO Champion.   I rather like how he says Vanguard is in good shape now 

[Chimpy]

How did that fucking game last for 7 years? 

You should've read the Rift Alpha forum. Nonstop Vanguard (or WoW of course).

The amount of Vanguard fellatio was at least 20x the amount of any other discussion. I remember blowing people's minds when I told them about basic user interface features that were in Aion that would have fit in well, then they went right back to saying "give us vanguard, it was the bestest!", I am almost certain none of those nobs even played an MMO that was not McQuadian.

[Der Helm]

The current generation of gamer doesn't have the attention span to play original EQ.  Ever watch streams of people playing LoL?  Constantly alt+tabbing, hitting tab to check stats, etc.  Does every gamer under 25 have a debilitating case of ADD?  I'm just going to assume that Darwin will take care of this by killing most of them off as they text and drive.

To be fair, the tabbing in league is to check your opponents items or lack of items (i.e. knowing when someone placed a ward).

Huh ? How does that work ?

[Draegan]

The current generation of gamer doesn't have the attention span to play original EQ.  Ever watch streams of people playing LoL?  Constantly alt+tabbing, hitting tab to check stats, etc.  Does every gamer under 25 have a debilitating case of ADD?  I'm just going to assume that Darwin will take care of this by killing most of them off as they text and drive.

To be fair, the tabbing in league is to check your opponents items or lack of items (i.e. knowing when someone placed a ward).

Huh ? How does that work ?

When you press tab, you can see your opponents items and CS score. Sometimes you'll notice that a player has an empty slot between items. Typically that might mean a player just placed a ward somewhere. You can also track their progression.

[Der Helm]

The current generation of gamer doesn't have the attention span to play original EQ.  Ever watch streams of people playing LoL?  Constantly alt+tabbing, hitting tab to check stats, etc.  Does every gamer under 25 have a debilitating case of ADD?  I'm just going to assume that Darwin will take care of this by killing most of them off as they text and drive.

To be fair, the tabbing in league is to check your opponents items or lack of items (i.e. knowing when someone placed a ward).

Huh ? How does that work ?

When you press tab, you can see your opponents items and CS score. Sometimes you'll notice that a player has an empty slot between items. Typically that might mean a player just placed a ward somewhere. You can also track their progression.

Ok. I need to improve me reading comprehension. I read that as checking for items by alt-tabbing. Thanks anyway, I keep forgetting to do that when I play Mobas.

[Draegan]

Well technically you can do the same thing by alt tabbing. There are a few sights lolking is the latest, that tracks games in progress which does the same thing as tabbing in game.

[Sky]

On a spectrum, I'd fall closer to camping Guk than alt-tabbing to check the opponent's gear.

[luckton]

Trending levels are continuing to fall, as the amount of updates they're putting out continues to rise.  I suppose McQuaid's going to break out the "Miracle Update" here this week?

[shiznitz]

So he is ineffectively spamming "Cazic group only needs a healer!" over and over again believing that the more often he says it, the more likely it is that a healer will appear.

[Hawkbit]

That got me.

[dusematic]

A back of the envelope calculation looks like he needs $20k per day to meet the minimum goal.

After the first few days, he isn't touching $20k.  Only averaging $15k, including the initial surge.  There was even a negative day. 

Looking grim!

[Hutch]

Current trend: $633k. Out of the $800k needed to fund. Not un-salvageable, if they've got someone waiting around to drop the last chunk needed, a la Camelot Unchained.

Projection Cone.
Low end 417k, high end 687k. Lord knows what black magic kicktraq uses to come up with those numbers.

At any rate. If they've got an angel waiting in the wings, they're going to make it no matter what. They could stop getting pledges today and still fund, if their sucker has deep enough pockets.

Otherwise, they're toast.

[Falconeer]

If they've got an angel waiting in the wings, they're going to make it no matter what. They could stop getting pledges today and still fund, if their sucker has deep enough pockets.

Exactly.

DAOC 2 seemed similarly doomed, and still managed to "make it". Since I still believe that there's an easy scam process behind these projects (meaning you put in your own money to get to the goal in order to avoid losing the real pledges), I am pretty sure it will miraculously ramp up in the last three days and even more miraculously get funded 2 hours before the deadline.

My theory is that the fucker is themselves. Kickstarter is free money as long as you can cover for the missing chunk and can make it look like it wasn't you.

[LC]

Give until it hurts people. This train wreck in progress can't leave the station unless you give Brad sacks of money to squander. Donate $5000 or more and Brad will deliver a kick to your nuts in person.

[luckton]

Trending levels are continuing to fall, as the amount of updates they're putting out continues to rise.  I suppose McQuaid's going to break out the "Miracle Update" here this week?

AND LO, THE MIRACLE UPDATE HAS ARRIVED!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588672538/pantheon-rise-of-the-fallen/posts/734671

Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen and Shroud of the Avatar Collaborate for Crowdfunding

Good morning, Pantheon fans! We have some great news to share today.

Brad has been talking with Richard 'Lord British' Garriott this week of Shroud of the Avatar and the two of them have been brainstorming ways to support both games. The result? Backers of both games can now claim a cross-game cloak in both Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen and Shroud of the Avatar. To qualify for the special Pantheon/SotA cross-game cloak you must be a Pantheon backer at the Fallen's Special tier or higher and the SotA First Responder (Kickstarter) or Adventurer (post-Kickstarter) pledge tier or higher. You'll then be able to wear the cloaks in both games.

 

[Mithas]

What a dynamic duo those two are.