Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen turns out to be a real game (real bad, geddit?)

[luckton]

This game will have to ship with a hammer.  Punching yourself in the nuts is so 1996. 

For as much money as they're asking for, there should be a tier in which a midget delivers your copy of the game AND hammers you in the nuts.

[dusematic]

This game will have to ship with a hammer.  Punching yourself in the nuts is so 1996. 

To start with you only have access to the ball-peen hammer.  Once you've pulverized one of your testes into a fine pink mist, you unlock the framing hammer.  After that, you're basically home-free, as you only have several thousand hours left to go before you get to sledgehammer.

[Trippy]

Game has a minimap -- not hardcore enough

[WayAbvPar]

This game will have to ship with a hammer.  Punching yourself in the nuts is so 1996. 

How about a USB-powered cock vise? Make it part of the game!

[Yegolev]

I wish this was still secret.

[Senses]

The first mmo to embrace remote fleshlight tech is gong to dominate this market.

[Paelos]

The first mmo to embrace remote fleshlight tech is gong to dominate this market.

Hahaha, good one. That got me. It'll replace the /pizza command.

[WayAbvPar]

I will definitely wait for release (so to speak) on that. I really don't want to be the first one to find a fleshlight bug.

Code:

To reproduce-
Find someone who still has a male member attached...


-filed from the John Bobbit Memorial ER waiting room

[sam, an eggplant]

Teledildonics: The answer to the question "What would it take to get you to install Second Life?"

[Stormwaltz]

This game will have to ship with a hammer.  Punching yourself in the nuts is so 1996.

I am sorely tempted to add this to my sig.

[schild]

I feel like f13 should carpet bomb kick starter support about this clearly being a scam.

[Velorath]

So many Kickstarter backers have their full names and where they live listed it would almost be more fun to carpet bomb them and ask them why they hate their money so much that they're willing to throw it away. Also I just noticed that some of the guys who backed this are Corpselocker and Ashenor who run a couple of the douchier Hex guilds (also one of them backed Shroud of the Avatar and one backed Camelot Unchained).

[luckton]

I haven't watched this yet, but apparently McQuaid has once again unzipped his brain case and pontificates further on "The Vision 3.0"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Slve6F4aM9w

[Trippy]

Corpse runs!

[luckton]

Listening to it while I work.  Just heard him say that, and that he's also not a fan of global auction houses.  THE VISION IS ALIVE AND WELL!  PRAISE JEEBUS!   

[Draegan]

EVE players would like to tell you they aren't a fan of global auction houses either.

[luckton]

EVE players would like to tell you they aren't a fan of global auction houses either.

EVE players are to gamers as gamers are to non-gamers.  They are the Nerd's nerd, and if CCP is quite content with their niche, so be it.  All I'm saying is that this is the third time that the Vision has been tried to be invoked into this world.  EQ and Vanguard may still be around, but they changed in response to players wanting to play a game like those two, except not as soul-shatteringly obnoxious to play.  So while McQuaid may acknowledge that this new project is going to be niche as fuck, he better be prepared for the day when there aren't enough paying customers to support "The Vision" because they don't agree/believe in it as wholeheartedly as he does.

The funny thing is that I hear Vanguard's actually pretty nice to play these days.

[Lantyssa]

All I've got to say is that logarithmic curves really suck for trying to reach a goal.  Trends are not favoring McQuaid.  (Also so I don't have to go back a page to see how it's proceeding.)

[Ingmar]

Well, he did add a tier that has a reward and no limit, so it's actually theoretically possible for him to hit a stretch goal now.

[tazelbain]

Ha, who are those 2 idiots in travelers. Why sure I'd love to pay $10 more to be excluded from alpha.

[luckton]

I'll split the difference and say that they'll meet the bare minimum 800k goal, so he can at least recoup the money he spent on just trying to get this thing off the ground, but it'll be mostly on the backs of an investor or two.  There will be no stretch goals obtained.

He'll eventually cry uncle and partner with a publisher for additional monies to at least launch the product so he doesn't break the Kickstarter contract.  And when the finish product burns, fails, and get absorbed by SOE to add to their menagerie of misfit MMOs, MAYBE then he'll "get it" and resign himself to the fact that the world just isn't as nerdy as he is.  He'll then get on the Firefall bus with Mark Kern and ride off into the sunset, (hopefully) never to be heard from again.

[palmer_eldritch]

EVE players would like to tell you they aren't a fan of global auction houses either.

EVE players are to gamers as gamers are to non-gamers.  They are the Nerd's nerd, and if CCP is quite content with their niche, so be it.  All I'm saying is that this is the third time that the Vision has been tried to be invoked into this world.  EQ and Vanguard may still be around, but they changed in response to players wanting to play a game like those two, except not as soul-shatteringly obnoxious to play.  So while McQuaid may acknowledge that this new project is going to be niche as fuck, he better be prepared for the day when there aren't enough paying customers to support "The Vision" because they don't agree/believe in it as wholeheartedly as he does.

The funny thing is that I hear Vanguard's actually pretty nice to play these days.

Eve has 500,000 paid for subscriptions ten years after launch which isn't half bad by MMO standards.

Not that I'm suggesting Pantheon will match that.

[tazelbain]

I really don't see them trying to build a robust medieval economic simulation, so there is no need to ditch the global auction.

[Hutch]

Pantheon Rise of the Fallen will not have a global auction house, because Immersion Breaking.

If your character is in Capital City, and you want some Elf Tails from the far distant province of Windswept Isles, you are going to have to travel there and harvest them yourself, because Hard.

Alternatively, you could pay another player, who harvested them himself, or bought them from another player near the Windswept Isles, and then hauled them back to Capital City. Because Social Interaction.

[Pennilenko]

Pantheon Rise of the Fallen will not have a global auction house, because Immersion Breaking.

If your character is in Capital City, and you want some Elf Tails from the far distant province of Windswept Isles, you are going to have to travel there and harvest them yourself, because Hard.

Alternatively, you could pay another player, who harvested them himself, or bought them from another player near the Windswept Isles, and then hauled them back to Capital City. Because Social Interaction.

Sounds good to me.

[WayAbvPar]

I too would like to quit my job in order to have enough time to procure Elf Tails.

[tazelbain]

It does appeal to a certain type of person, but its bullshit.

My IMMERSION was already broken when I didn't permanently die after taking grievous wounds on the battlefield.
Hauling shit cross country isn't HARD, it is time consuming.
Spamming chat to sell items isn't SOCIAL INTERACTION.

I guess the upside is if this game makes it, EvE players will have someone to look down upon.

[palmer_eldritch]

I guess it makes sense in Eve because one of the things you expect to do in a spaceship game if you've ever played Elite is hauling stuff from one space station to another space station. It also ties in with Eve's PvP system. That doesn't mean it makes sense in a fantasy game with a PVE focus.

[dusematic]

I just backed the shit out of this in the name of investigative journalism and being a tool.  Hi-Ho Silverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

[KallDrexx]

I don't have a problem with no global auction house.  If done right and proper distribution of resources it can give a fun way to make the economy, trading, and exploring a real part of the game.

That being said, I don't believe Brad McQuaid has the capability to pull it off properly.

[sam, an eggplant]

I didn't listen to the podcast or watch the video or whatever, but there are several ways to interpret what a global auctionhouse actually means. One is how everybody in the thread took it; separate auctionhouses in Qeynos and Freeport. That's fucking crazy.

The alternate interpretation is to look at games like Guild Wars 2 or Diablo 3 with region-wide auctions. These lead to hyper-efficient markets, driving prices way down. It ultimately corrupted D3's item-driven gameplay. GW2 isn't really about items so it worked OK there, but most prices are extremely low. Separating auctionhouses by shard, or segmenting by population, makes a lot more sense.

[Senses]

Its pretty simple, if you don't want a global auction house fine, but you better build something better.  I hate when developers remove something people don't like only to replace it with nothing, and nothing is something I don't like either.

[DayDream]

no global auction houses probably just means that said economic action will be moved to 3rd party websites.

at least, assuming enough people care about this game to actually build that website.

[calapine]

One doesn't have to drag Eve out for this. UO didn't have a global auction house either. In fact I'd prefer it's system of rentable NPC vendors which you can stock to sell your produce. Makes location important (among other reasons).

[Numtini]

PC controlled vendors are another option and create a completely different type of gameplay for the people who want to run them. That only really works if you have dispersed housing. If you stick them in a zone like EQ1 did, it's just an inconvenience auction house.

Not having anything is simply a cop out. Disconnected auction houses only work when you have ludicrous travel times like Eve, which themselves aren't acceptable unless you have a ludicrously large world like Eve. Didn't WoW start with auction houses that weren't connected and the reaction was people just gravitated to one and used it exclusively?