Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen turns out to be a real game (real bad, geddit?)

[Ginaz]

The Vision 2.0, now with even more hookers and blow.   Anyone that goes to work for this jackass, knowing full well what happened last time, deserve to have their own parking lot firing streamed for all the world to see.  How badly does someone have to fuck up in the gaming industry before they're never given another chance to shit the bed again?

[Soln]

"it's indie"

[Fabricated]

Ahahahaha, this owns so hard

delete this thread and someone email Brad and make a forum for his new game when he makes it

[Shannow]

Hotmail? Hotmail?!

[Mithas]

I should also add that if you are a younger player & didn't play EQ or VG, but you want a challenging game & not a game that tries to be all things to all players, then you should feel right at home too

This will turn out well.

[Ginaz]

I should also add that if you are a younger player & didn't play EQ or VG, but you want a challenging game & not a game that tries to be all things to all players, then you should feel right at home too

This will turn out well.

So it is The Vision 2.0.  This time I'm sure he'll get it right.

[Nonentity]

I Enjoyed the diplomacy system, but I'm sure he had nothing to do with it.

He did not. I'm friends with the guy who did, he's off at WB now, thankfully far away from this trainwreck.

[Cadaverine]

The truly shocking thing is that he actually had a paying job at Sony until August. There really is no justice in the universe.

Bob Slydell: Yeah, we can't actually find a record of him being a current employee here.

Bob Porter: I looked into it more deeply and I found that apparently what happened is that he was laid off five years ago and no one ever told him about it; but through some kind of glitch in the payroll department, he still gets a paycheck.

Bob Slydell: So we just went ahead and fixed the glitch.

I hope his kickstarter gets funded just for yuks, but even if it doesn't, it should still provide a fair bit of amusement trolling the core-er-than-thou true believers.

[Falconeer]

Hotmail? Hotmail?!

I still have a working Geocities email. I keep it safe, I love it. I am surprised he doesn't.

[Mithas]

I think it is less that he owns the hotmail account and more that he is using it as his primary contact address. He owns the domain for bradmcquaid.com for f's sake, just use that and forward the e-mail if you love hotmail so much.

[Abelian75]

This seems appropriate:

[UnSub]

I'm curious about what happened at SOE.

First McQuaid was brought back to SOE for Vanguard, where he started in July 2012.

Then he moved across in March this year to Everquest.

And now he's out of SOE and making his own MMO.

So two half-year stints at two SOE titles - before which I believe he was trying to get investors interested in his own MMO company, which I guess didn't work out - and he's now out to crowdsource funds.

I'm curious if he jumped or if he was pushed. Or if he looked at Star Citizen and thought, "I could have some of that."

Regardless, whoever gives money to McQuaid's Kickstarter deserves to lose it.

[Hawkbit]

Massively reported that he was fired from SOE.

[sam, an eggplant]

Nothing juicy there, SOE had a massive layoff in august and he was part of it.

[Brolan]

Long grueling grinds and difficult corpse recovery for everyone!  I'm sure that's what the current MMOG customers want.

[Teleku]

/obligatory

[Merusk]

Long grueling grinds and difficult corpse recovery for everyone!  I'm sure that's what the current MMOG customers want.

Every MMO I've played in the last 6 years has had some segment of general chat pining for the EQ days.  Every single one.  While I'll accept that most of these people are like the wankers pining for the 'dreadlord days' of UO - i.e. people who weren't actually there - they'll get a segment to at least do box sales and fund this Kickstarter.   

After that, so long as it's not a buggy piece of shit (it will be) and fully feature complete at launch (it won't be) I can see it hitting that 150-300k again.  The pendulum is swinging the other way now and it's an underserved market for the jobless and teenaged who only have stories from us untrustworthy 30 and 40 year olds.

[Brolan]

Long grueling grinds and difficult corpse recovery for everyone!  I'm sure that's what the current MMOG customers want.

Every MMO I've played in the last 6 years has had some segment of general chat pining for the EQ days.  Every single one.  While I'll accept that most of these people are like the wankers pining for the 'dreadlord days' of UO - i.e. people who weren't actually there - they'll get a segment to at least do box sales and fund this Kickstarter.  

After that, so long as it's not a buggy piece of shit (it will be) and fully feature complete at launch (it won't be) I can see it hitting that 150-300k again.  The pendulum is swinging the other way now and it's an underserved market for the jobless and teenaged who only have stories from us untrustworthy 30 and 40 year olds.

Everyone who played Everquest has some nostalgia for it but they conveniently forget all the bad stuff.   It will not take long for most people to become annoyed with the slow pace and move on to the next big thing.

But who knows?  Maybe Brad learned from his previous mistakes and will knock this one out of the park?    I'm here all week folks...

[Threash]

The bad stuff didn't seem like bad stuff when you had no other stuff to compare it to, it just was. 

[Merusk]

There's still people playing EQ1, which hasn't had many QOL upgrades.  The bad stuff isn't bad to everyone, just folks who want a life outside of a video game.

It also had some stuff that I consider superior to today's spoonfed crap.  Like how I can't just sit down and waste an afternoon drinking and watching football while grinding reputations or doing mindless kills in many games. Everything has to have a directed goal with that's metered out to prolong your play, even in free games.  Well, especially in free games since there's always the "pay to get past this quicker" BS.  All of it with fast combat so you can't divert your focus elsewhere for even a few seconds.

[Venkman]

The people pining for those days are either completely fine with EQ1, or pining for the lifestyle they had in those days that supported 5 hour a day sessions. It was fine when there was nothing else because that was the size of the relatively niche of super-dedicated hardcore MMO PC-specific gamer.

A lot has changed since WoW, including the lives the former EQ jocks now have.

There'll always be a potential market for a hardcore/old school MMO. Unfortunately this isn't because there's a sizable amount of people to serve a properly produced game and well-managed service. It's instead because each attempt has ended up like this one will.

[IainC]

I'm going to guess that he's not hoping to raise around $70m or so on Kickstarter, so I imagine this is going to be another of those bullshit, 'we want to raise $2m so that we can interest actual investors in funding the rest of the game.'

[schild]

I can't decide whether to wait until the Kickstarter is up for contacting them and telling them his track record or doing it preempatively.

[Hutch]

I can't believe that he's going to get enough useful questions to form a proper 2+ minute intro video. Unless he uses sockpuppets to "send" him the questions.
Also, who's going to "interview" him?

[Azazel]

Long grueling grinds and difficult corpse recovery for everyone!  I'm sure that's what the current MMOG customers want.

Every MMO I've played in the last 6 years has had some segment of general chat pining for the EQ days.  Every single one.  While I'll accept that most of these people are like the wankers pining for the 'dreadlord days' of UO - i.e. people who weren't actually there - they'll get a segment to at least do box sales and fund this Kickstarter.   

After that, so long as it's not a buggy piece of shit (it will be) and fully feature complete at launch (it won't be) I can see it hitting that 150-300k again.  The pendulum is swinging the other way now and it's an underserved market for the jobless and teenaged who only have stories from us untrustworthy 30 and 40 year olds.

When I happen to be subbed to WoW, every so often there's inveriably a bunch of general chat about how good the old days of TBC were, and how WoW is now dumbed-down "EZmode". It's at that point when I bring out the EQ "nostalgia" but I use it to reference my general point of "shut the fuck up, dickheads - you wouldn't know a hardcore game if it fucked you in the arse"... 

[Azazel]

I can't believe that he's going to get enough useful questions to form a proper 2+ minute intro video. Unless he uses sockpuppets to "send" him the questions.
Also, who's going to "interview" him?

Abashi? Absor? 

[Zetor]

Maybe Furor or Tigole? 

[ashrik]

Serek Dmart?

e: haha I hope that's an automatic word filter

[satael]

I can't believe that he's going to get enough useful questions to form a proper 2+ minute intro video. Unless he uses sockpuppets to "send" him the questions.
Also, who's going to "interview" him?

Curt Schilling's bloody sock(puppet)? 

[Yegolev]

Curt has a job on ESPN, I saw him.  Of course, baseball is over now.

Also:

[Samprimary]

I want this to be funded just so I can watch. I'm going cloyingly anthropological on this.

[Kageru]

It would be sort of fascinating to see what it is he believes he can bring to the Genre. The only success he had was largely accidental.

[Njal]

So what's Brad Wardell up to?

[Stormwaltz]

Lying low while less controversial employees work on Galactic Civilizations III.

[Venkman]

I love that this isn't a 20 page thread that will probably page 2 and therefore die in a week. Between this and there being no Shroud thread (on purpose), I feel like some of the more ridiculous milestones in the past are finally behind us.