F13 2013/2014 Fantasy Football League

[Paelos]

NFL.com's site in general is one of the worst things ever conceived. It's so bloated and ridiculous you can't even check scores on that without your machine locking up in a seizure.

[sickrubik]

Even with the yahoo redesign, it's still the best, in my opinion. NFLs fantasy thing is terrible. I haven't been in an ESPN in years, but overall, ESPNs site is the worst of the three for navigating/finding info.

I think the game recaps are on Late Tuesdays or Wednesdays after points are finalized, if I recall correctly.

[MrHat]

I didn't see it before the redesign but Yahoo is all-around ass.  People say NFL.com is worse?  What about ESPN?

ESPN has a ton of information available but you have to dig.

[sickrubik]

ESPN has issues on their navigiation/organization. YAhoo is a ton better in that regard from my experience.

[Segoris]

I always liked ESPN more for their fantasy webpage (once you found it/got to it) and yahoo more for their mobile app.

-Yahoo not having a recap of the week sucks as that was always fun to read and compare. Stats/points are done, it's still not there when it used to be there midday/early Tuesday. Great if it's just delayed, but I'm doubt it at this point.
-Yahoo's waivers (when trying to claim people before they're available) is crap in comparison to ESPN, but with a free for all waiver wire that isn't as important. If we ever switch to no claims until Tuesday and the waiver order starts mattering then it would be noticeable.
-Yahoo's big board is a big load of shit.
-Viewing players on the waiver wire and on my roster I always found more information in ESPN leagues. One of the stats I miss the most was having "opponent rank" right in their stats highlighted in red/black/green for bad/even/good matchups.

Where Yahoo does a better job is in their home page (especially while in multiple Yahoo leagues) and their stat tracker is ok but unnecesary compared to ESPN doing live updates to the matchups scores instead of having to go into a separate window/tab.

[Yegolev]

I neglected to mention that I came in second for week 1 with 191.81 points.  Pretty OK for a guy that drafted Aaron Hernandez.

[sickrubik]

-Yahoo's waivers (when trying to claim people before they're available) is crap in comparison to ESPN, but with a free for all waiver wire that isn't as important. If we ever switch to no claims until Tuesday and the waiver order starts mattering then it would be noticeable.

I'm not following on the first part of your claim. (Edit: Pun not intended.)

[Bunk]

Am I crazy in thinking about playing KC's defense at home to the Cowboys, as opposed to playing Seattle at home to San Fran?

League I'm in scores defense on Points against, yards against, sacks, and turnovers.

[MrHat]

Am I crazy in thinking about playing KC's defense at home to the Cowboys, as opposed to playing Seattle at home to San Fran?

League I'm in scores defense on Points against, yards against, sacks, and turnovers.

I think so.  Gotta go with SEA at home regardless.

EDIT: Let me clarify - I think if you don't need big upside from your D, like you only need 6-12 points, play SEA.  If you need 15+ from your D, maybe gambling on KC at home will do it, but Cowboys are such a weird O that they could put up 33 with an INT and a FUM and only net you like 4 points. I'm gambling that JAX was so bad that they made KC look incredible and taking OAK at home for D this week.

[Nebu]

Am I crazy in thinking about playing KC's defense at home to the Cowboys, as opposed to playing Seattle at home to San Fran?

League I'm in scores defense on Points against, yards against, sacks, and turnovers.

Seattle has one of the best defensive backfields in the NFL.  I'd play them simply for turnovers and the chance they may get a pick 6.  Kaepernick is young and may still get fooled by complex defensive sets. 

It's a gamble, but I think Seattle will do better fantasy-wise 70% of the time.

[Yegolev]

Meanwhile, I have New England's defense and am not terribly interested in throwing the dice this week.

[sickrubik]

KC played Jacksonville, who may be a team that goes 0-16.

KC is one of the most improved teams from last year, but I would be very careful with counting on them too much.

[Segoris]

-Yahoo's waivers (when trying to claim people before they're available) is crap in comparison to ESPN, but with a free for all waiver wire that isn't as important. If we ever switch to no claims until Tuesday and the waiver order starts mattering then it would be noticeable.

I'm not following on the first part of your claim. (Edit: Pun not intended.)

In the ESPN league I was in, rosters were locked from adding/dropping once a player's game time started until Tuesday for all players. So that break out player everyone wants couldn't be claimed by the first come first serve method. But say that you had a player who just got injured for the season and there were 3 break out players that week, the ESPN ui would allow you to setup something along the lines of

Drop: Ryan Matthews   Add: Julian Thomas
Drop: Ryan Matthews   Add: Edelman
Drop: Ryan Matthews   Add: Malcom Floyd
Drop: Ronnie Hillman  Add: Edelman
Drop: Ronnie Hillman  Add: Floyd

If you are the top waiver then you would receive J Thomas. If someone else was higher in waiver priority and wanted J Thomas they would get them and then your team would attempt to drop Matthews for Edleman and so forth. If no one picked the players you tried to get, then you would drop Matthews and get Thomas, if no one picked up Edelman then you would drop Hillman and pick up Edelman and so forth. So you could basically have a much more in depth automation of your waivers come the time where players could be claimed.

I was saying none of that matters now for these leagues because of the waiver settings, but it is a better system/ui then what Yahoo shows. Yahoo's waivers when trying to claim multiple people before they're available is there, but it's buried and not very intuitive.

[sickrubik]

Yahoo let's you do that just fine. I had something similar in another league.

And how is it not intuitive? You just click on the + for the player you want and choose who you would drop for him.

[Paelos]

KC played Jacksonville, who may be a team that goes 0-16.

KC is one of the most improved teams from last year, but I would be very careful with counting on them too much.

Still amuses me that Jacksonville coach looked at Blaine Gabbert and said, yeah he's better than rolling the dice on Tebow. I'd have fired him and brought in the circus.

[Segoris]

It's the difference in UI, maybe they upgraded it and I'll try again next week but in comparison how it was laid out and how it was buried in Yahoo was shit in comparison. As for intuitive, the system itself is but where it's located in comparison is not. With ESPN as soon as I go to a player list it would show my pending waivers, Yahoo's just is not as clean.


As for KC vs Sea thoughts - it's not crazy imo, because KC when healthy is a good defense. The simple rule of thumb which is why you shouldn't starat them is because anytime Seattle is the home team you play their defense and be mindful of who you start against them. While Kaep is good, remember his worst game so far was in Sea last year and when he put up 19/36 for 244 yds 1:1 td:int and only 31 rush yards. That was week 15, so he had some experience by that point. Even with a better WR1 and more chemistry with Davis now Sea is still a must start. I'm actually having to consider not starting Boldin and/or Davis because they're playing @Sea.

[sickrubik]

It's the difference in UI, maybe they upgraded it and I'll try again next week but in comparison how it was laid out and how it was buried in Yahoo was shit in comparison. As for intuitive, the system itself is but where it's located in comparison is not. With ESPN as soon as I go to a player list it would show my pending waivers, Yahoo's just is not as clean.

The act of creating a waiver priority is exactly the same for Yahoo as it has been for years. It's not located anywhere weird.. it's just a process of looking at players available... I'm really not sure where the confusion comes in. Click the green + sign and choose someone to drop, rinse/repeat.

[Segoris]

Again, shittier UI is shittier is all I'm sayin'. The way Yahoo does list pending waivers, where they list them, etc is done in a worse way.

[WayAbvPar]

It's the difference in UI, maybe they upgraded it and I'll try again next week but in comparison how it was laid out and how it was buried in Yahoo was shit in comparison. As for intuitive, the system itself is but where it's located in comparison is not. With ESPN as soon as I go to a player list it would show my pending waivers, Yahoo's just is not as clean.


As for KC vs Sea thoughts - it's not crazy imo, because KC when healthy is a good defense. The simple rule of thumb which is why you shouldn't starat them is because anytime Seattle is the home team you play their defense and be mindful of who you start against them. While Kaep is good, remember his worst game so far was in Sea last year and when he put up 19/36 for 244 yds 1:1 td:int and only 31 rush yards. That was week 15, so he had some experience by that point. Even with a better WR1 and more chemistry with Davis now Sea is still a must start. I'm actually having to consider not starting Boldin and/or Davis because they're playing @Sea.

I was at that game last year. The atmosphere was INSANE. The 49ers were definitely rattled. Game is another 5:30 PM start, so the crowd will be a drunken mess again. Going to be a very tough place to run an offense.

[sickrubik]

Again, shittier UI is shittier is all I'm sayin'. The way Yahoo does list pending waivers, where they list them, etc is done in a worse way.

They list them on top of your roster. Where does ESPN list them?

The method you listed above is dependent on league settings, which you even mentioned... so when it comes to doing the actual method of adding a waiver and where it lists, I just have ZERO idea of how that happens, but that's one of the things I've never had an issue with Yahoo, so it surprises me.

[HaemishM]

KC played Jacksonville, who may be a team that goes 0-16.

KC is one of the most improved teams from last year, but I would be very careful with counting on them too much.

Still amuses me that Jacksonville coach looked at Blaine Gabbert and said, yeah he's better than rolling the dice on Tebow. I'd have fired him and brought in the circus.

It was a first year head coach. No way was he going to sanction bringing in Tebow, because the only way Tebow wins is if you build the entire goddamn offense around him. Then, when next year's draft comes and you hopefully have the opportunity to draft a franchise QB (or someone you will convince yourself is a franchise QB), you have set your team back building it around Jesus's QB.

[MuffinMan]

Yahoo matchup recaps are up now.

[Segoris]

They list them on top of your roster. Where does ESPN list them?

The method you listed above is dependent on league settings, which you even mentioned... so when it comes to doing the actual method of adding a waiver and where it lists, I just have ZERO idea of how that happens, but that's one of the things I've never had an issue with Yahoo, so it surprises me.

On your roster, on the waivers add player area, and the drop player area. All of those have (maybe only "had" at this point as I'm not in an ESPN league this year and don't know if it changed) areas to see your waivers pending, rearrange them in who you want to drop/add first with a better ui.

As for having an issue with Yahoo, I'm not saying I have an issue only that ESPN does it better which was the context of the original comment (comparing ESPN and Yahoo).

I was at that game last year. The atmosphere was INSANE. The 49ers were definitely rattled. Game is another 5:30 PM start, so the crowd will be a drunken mess again. Going to be a very tough place to run an offense.

And here is why you always start Sea def at home

On another note- Yahoo's recap is still there, it just takes longer than I remember to be available and there isn't a link on the home page of the league. View the matchup and find a recap link

[sickrubik]

On another note- Yahoo's recap is still there, it just takes longer than I remember to be available and there isn't a link on the home page of the league. View the matchup and find a recap link

It was on Wednesdays last year too, as far as I recall.

[Segoris]

I remembered it being midday Tuesday for some reason, or at the very latest late Tuesday when a lot of the MRIs are coming back and I'm hitting the waiver wires but getting distracted by recaps.

Either way, it's still there

[El Gallo]

Roosters would have lost to every other team in the league this week.

All eight players in the starting lineup scored less than their projected points.

Off to a running start!

[Yegolev]

Another one for the Brain Trust.

Currently I'm starting Emmanuel Sanders and I have Andre Roberts on the bench.  I figure both of these guys will have a hard time in week 2, so the question I have is which team is less likely to be denied points: Pitt against Cincy, or Arizona against Detroit?

Fantasy consensus seems split, so I'm likely to leave Sanders out there, but I don't want to be kicking myself if Pittsburgh shits the bed, points-wise.

[sickrubik]

Andre Roberts has a higher ceiling and probably more targets. That's about all I can think of in defense of either one. I AM staring Roberts over Jennings in one league.. so.. I dunno. It's a touch choice.

[Yegolev]

That's pretty much why I'm feeling around to get a sense if there's a chance the Bengals will shut down the Steelers, which my gut tells me is higher than the Lion shutting down the Cards.

[Nebu]

That's pretty much why I'm feeling around to get a sense if there's a chance the Bengals will shut down the Steelers, which my gut tells me is higher than the Lion shutting down the Cards.

I like the Bengals D a lot.  I think they have some maturing to do, but their core skill set and ability is going to be the foundation for that team.  Detroit is much more emotional.  They're as likely to have a great game as they are a terrible game. 

I have a similar decision to make myself:  Do I start SF (great defense) against a strong opponent (SEA) or do I play Baltimore against the weaker CLE team?

[Azuredream]

Goddamnit.

Droods would have lost to just one other team besides Like a Boss this week.

My opponent had LeSean McCoy, Peyton Manning, and Vernon Davis. On the other hand, I'm feeling good about having Kaepernick as my starting QB.

[Rasix]

Sorry.  I had pretty much the same situation in the main league.  I was a high first among the losers.

[sickrubik]

That's pretty much why I'm feeling around to get a sense if there's a chance the Bengals will shut down the Steelers, which my gut tells me is higher than the Lion shutting down the Cards.

I like the Bengals D a lot.  I think they have some maturing to do, but their core skill set and ability is going to be the foundation for that team.  Detroit is much more emotional.  They're as likely to have a great game as they are a terrible game. 

I have a similar decision to make myself:  Do I start SF (great defense) against a strong opponent (SEA) or do I play Baltimore against the weaker CLE team?

Ravens.

[Yegolev]

I have a similar decision to make myself:  Do I start SF (great defense) against a strong opponent (SEA) or do I play Baltimore against the weaker CLE team?

Ravens.

I don't know a lot about football, but I do know that I like a mismatch, so I agree.  I'm not saying my opinion means a lot.

[Yegolev]

Oh, uh, this week I'm matched against my wife.