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Reply #1540 on: September 08, 2017, 11:35:06 AM

Well, just about all the SHIELD agents created for the series and the MCU have appeared in the comics after the series started - Coulsen, Fitz, Simmons, Hunter, and they even have a Deathlok that isn't the same but is close. There really haven't been a lot of memorable SHIELD agents in the comics.

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Reply #1541 on: September 08, 2017, 03:12:37 PM

I don't think they were ever trying to adapt what SHIELD was as a comic into a TV series. SHIELD's function in the MCU is slightly different in that for Phase 1 at least they're the only ones who know the bigger picture when it comes to people with super powers. The TV series allowed them to use the only recognizable recurring character in the MCU, and structurally the show started off as not being that much different from a lot of other stuff on TV, just with the central conceit being that it took place in a world with super powers, aliens, and dangerous artifacts.

The main issue with the series is that they spent most of the first season playing up the clichéd nature of the show and Ward in particular before doing the big reveal. It made the first season much better in hindsight but that didn't matter to large number of viewers that had already given up on the show. Combine that with a lack of interaction with the movies, overly long story arcs (until they started breaking things up into shorter arcs last season), and then just the natural attrition almost every series goes through and ratings have dropped off to a dismal level. The closest they've come to trying to attract new viewers was introducing Ghost Rider last season, but in four seasons they've pretty firmly established that MAOS doesn't matter to the movies or even the Netflix shows and that any guest stars they get are characters deemed so unimportant that they aren't going to get used anywhere else.
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Reply #1542 on: September 08, 2017, 04:11:23 PM

There have been hundreds of named agents that had short bursts of being interesting before disappearing into obscurity.  It was why I was shocked not to see those names used for the agents in the pilot, but instead see new agents.

Regardless, since the Winter Soldier tie-in ended, pretty much everything has felt like collections of fan fiction to me.  They need to get serious about bringing the movies and TV shows together a bit in the post Infinity War era if they want to get past that problem.  I want to see movie (Spider-man/Avengers) NY, Netflix (for now) NY and Cloak and Dagger NY all align so that they seem like the same place.  I want to see Black Widow and Hawkeye show a glimmer of interest in SHIELD, their former employer where many people they know worked. 

 is returning next season in some capacity, per recent articles.

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Reply #1543 on: September 09, 2017, 11:57:02 AM

My view is they need to stop worrying about crossover and keep the show good in its own right.

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Reply #1544 on: October 07, 2017, 08:02:42 PM

December 1 return.


I wonder if they tie this season, at all, to Thor:Ragnarock.
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Reply #1545 on: December 02, 2017, 02:48:23 AM

Heh, going full-on sci-fi. Dig it.

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Reply #1546 on: December 02, 2017, 01:04:21 PM

Heh, going full-on sci-fi. Dig it.

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Reply #1547 on: December 04, 2017, 09:00:59 AM

Still quite unsure on this season. They blew a lot of special effects budgets on those first two episodes. Does that mean a number of elevator episodes coming up?

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Reply #1548 on: December 04, 2017, 11:28:05 AM

It looks like most of the season is going to be inside the station, which means no location budgets - everything on a single soundstage.

I'm curious to see where this all goes. Silent, reverse makeup, Ben Wa Balls of Doom! girl intrigues me.

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Reply #1549 on: December 04, 2017, 02:47:59 PM

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Reply #1550 on: December 04, 2017, 06:26:48 PM

Silent, reverse makeup, Ben Wa Balls of Doom! girl intrigues me.
I'm betting Jemma gains control of those balls and brings them back in time...

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Reply #1551 on: December 05, 2017, 11:33:07 AM

So it's not real time travel unless
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Reply #1552 on: December 05, 2017, 01:01:48 PM

So it's not real time travel unless

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Reply #1553 on: December 05, 2017, 08:52:29 PM

Fucking comic books...

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Reply #1554 on: December 10, 2017, 11:59:41 PM


and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Reply #1555 on: December 12, 2017, 04:30:41 PM

...
They explain number 3.
....
I totally missed that.  I totally am not interested enough to go back and watch it again and see it.  However, that makes no sense to me -

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Reply #1556 on: December 12, 2017, 05:11:37 PM

However, that makes no sense to me -

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Reply #1557 on: December 12, 2017, 08:43:01 PM

The place isn't in orbit. It is underground on the remaining large chunk of earth with one edge exposed to space.

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Reply #1558 on: December 13, 2017, 01:29:18 AM

Yeah, that fact took me a while to figure out. I'll admit I'm intrigued at this season. I get the feeling girl who is totally not Sublime from DV8 (I know, wrong comic universe) is going to stick around and play a big role. Curious if they are going to jump back in to the past at some point, as I hadn't heard anything about Ian deCastawhatever leaving the show, and apparently Hunter is supposed to make an appearance.

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Reply #1559 on: December 13, 2017, 11:08:38 AM

Wait, i thought they were just in space but its space, in the future? Jesus they are going full 2000s scifi spinoff here.

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Reply #1560 on: December 13, 2017, 05:42:30 PM

... as I hadn't heard anything about Ian deCastawhatever leaving the show, and apparently Hunter is supposed to make an appearance.
He has not.  They're going to do a few episodes in the future, then have one end with him showing up with a team (or something) and then will do a Fitz centered episode, likely with him getting Hunter back into the fold due to the absence of the team. (My guess - probably see him around episode 5)

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Reply #1561 on: Today at 01:27:50 AM

I guess my one big gripe with this entire concept is that we know the ultimate outcome.


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