Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

[Threash]

[Mandella]

I don't think anything we've seen in AoU, Agents of SHIELD or Ant-Man would lead me to believe there aren't still Hydra splinters all over the place, even ones we've not seen.

I absolutely hate spoilers (so why am I hear right? -- accidental clickage, and read one post), so I'm not opening any of the spoiler tags.

But I would like to throw in the point that Hydra "went dark" for decades after WWII, and they did it so well that everyone thought that it had been eliminated. It could even be argued that they are most effective undercover, since they sure as hell had a lot more success infiltrating and influencing global politics when everybody thought they were ancient history than they have since they came out of the shadows.

So I could well see whoever or whatever is really behind Hydra pulling up the covers again and putting the organization to sleep.

Just like Bucky, Hydra hibernates until needed.

[eldaec]

I saw it as "Ward is going to be like Coulson's shield was at start if S2 ’rebuilding HYDRA’, but that doesn't rule out Admiral Adama showing up and saying ’hey actually we are HYDRA’ ”.

[NowhereMan]

I will say I would be very, very surprised if Adama appeared to announce he's a new HYDRA boss.

[eldaec]

I didn't mean literally him. Though now you mention it...

[Evildrider]

I didn't mean literally him. Though now you mention it...

[eldaec]

Nothing suggests that is a career ending injury in the Marvel universe.

[Evildrider]

Constance Zimmer is set to play the head of a mysterious new government agency that will cross paths with S.H.I.E.L.D. as both seek out new Inhumans following the events of last season. This agency head will act as principal antagonist for Clark Gregg’s Agent Coulson and might be more than his match, though it is unclear if she will turn out to be a friend or foe as the season plays out.


My guess is that they are finally bringing in S.W.O.R.D. and she's playing Abigail Brand.

[HaemishM]

That would make sense. Brand was a Whedon creation if I remember correctly.

[Evildrider]

A “Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.” spinoff is moving forward at ABC. Variety today reports that the network is calling for a pilot episode of a show that will be titled “Marvel’s Most Wanted” and that will follow Adrianne Palicki’s Bobbi Morse (AKA Mockingbird) and Nick Blood’s Lance Hunter.

Anything that gives me more Adrianne Palicki screen time is ok with me.   

[eldaec]

Possibly, but SHIELD would miss Hunter. He's the only SHIELD guy they managed to write with a personality other than "cult member".

[Fordel]

He isn't really a SHIELD guy technically! 

[Ironwood]

Anything that gives me more Adrianne Palicki screen time is ok with me.   

Yuuuup.

Why not just keep her in the SHIELD team though ?

(on a not unrelated note, we're finally getting through Agent Carter over in the Ironwood House and I fucking love it.  It's brilliant.  Totally brilliant.)

[jgsugden]

Lotsbof reasons to spin off. They want new Marvel on the screen constantly. MAOS is getting growded. She will pull people to the new show. Given the title, I don't think she'll end up being the only recognizable name in the cast.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Of all the marvel properties to make a new show for....

I get that a lot is tied up in the movies or by other companies but I just can't see mockingbird being so very different from shield it needs it's own show.  Carter is similar enough having no super hero lead but at least it's set in the past and has a unique perspective.  Marvel needs to go the cw route and have a super powered flash to counter shields arrow.

[Evildrider]

Remember that Agents of SHIELD is basically going Secret Warriors.  This new show could focus on the non powered ass kickers.  There are also rumors that Agent May will be gone after this new season.

[jgsugden]

I don't think May goes.  May thinking of leaving is the storyline, but if her ex survives the season I'll be surprised. 

As for why Mockingbird would get her own series?  There are two large reasons that draw a lot of attention - and then she is a good enough actor to hold that attention.  The title gives me the vibe of Marvel Team Up, an old series where Spidey used to get teamed up with different heroes each issue to take on a villain.  I'm wondering if they'll start to establish more characters using this show and see which are worth getting their own spinoff.  All speculation at this point.

MAoS is crowded now, and she can carry a show.  Good enough for me.

[HaemishM]

Maybe they will go more Secret Avengers on this one. Mockingbird and Hunter will be sent on missions too dirty for the new SHIELD to do.

[jgsugden]

Based upon how they ended last season when there was an opening for these two to leave, I doubt they'll be members of SHIELD if the pilot goes.  I'm betting Bounty Hunters...

[Evildrider]

Well they also ended the season with them pointing towards their spin off, before it got cancelled.

[eldaec]

(on a not unrelated note, we're finally getting through Agent Carter over in the Ironwood House and I fucking love it.  It's brilliant.  Totally brilliant.)

Agree completely with this. My only criticism is that it feels like they are afraid they might get cancelled at any moment and need to resolve any mystery before the nect commercial break.  (OMG Jarvis was charged with Treason! And he won't tell us the details! How mysterious! Oh there is the rather mundane explanation within  15 minutes never mind )

[Fordel]

First episode of the new season was pretty rad.

Show seems to be FINALLY living up to it's potential.

[Evildrider]

First episode of the new season was pretty rad.

Show seems to be FINALLY living up to it's potential.

I haven't watched it yet but people have been saying it's like a pilot for a new show.

[Fordel]

It's set the stage for what the season is going to be about yea.

[sickrubik]

[Evildrider]

[Tannhauser]

I thought it was a very good start to a new season.  Their rescue of that guy was well done.  I liked that Daisy did that thing with the floor, nice thinking there.

[sickrubik]

Did I miss them dropping that name? Apparently I did.

[Fordel]

[Evildrider]

Actually Feige was just talking about this and the fact that their is no way they can ignore the TV stuff in the movies any longer.  Phase 3 should start referencing the TV shows more as it goes on. 

[Fordel]

Oh really? Neat!

[jgsugden]

Whedon pushed for the TV / Movie separation...  he is gone. Makes sense.

[Evildrider]

Whedon pushed for the TV / Movie separation...  he is gone. Makes sense.

The "creative committee" is the one that wanted the TV/Movie seperation.  Whedon spear headed the SHIELD show, so saying he wanted it separated is silly. The movie crew didn't like Whedon bringing back Coulson and then having SHIELD be around when they were just about to destroy SHIELD in Cap 2.  Which is why the first season is so crappy til the last half. 

Whedon did however want a Daredevil movie and not the TV show, which may be where you are getting confused.  I am glad that went to Netflix.. cuz we got 13 hours of Daredevil instead of 2.

[Fordel]

Total agreement about DD being a Netflix show over a movie. The show was so goooooood.

[jgsugden]

Whedon pushed for the TV / Movie separation...  he is gone. Makes sense.

The "creative committee" is the one that wanted the TV/Movie seperation.  Whedon spear headed the SHIELD show, so saying he wanted it separated is silly...

It may be silly to you, but it is something that Whedon explicitly stated. Colson was not referenced in any of the movies because Whedon wanted the significance of his death to be maintainted for the movie audiences.