MrHat
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This show was way better than I thought it was going to be.
Very enjoyable.
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shiznitz
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I thought the ending was well done. The closing scene was highly evocative of the first time Clarissa Starling meets Hannibal in Silence of the Lambs, only in reverse obviously. I assume that reference was not lost on this audience but I just wanted to point that out.
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Ironwood
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It brings no sense of tension to series two tho. Will knows who he is and he has two people on the outside he trusts.
Episode 1, Series 2
Will Graham: Lecter did it.
Jack and Totty : Fair enough, let's go get him.
It's kinda lame.
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Wasted
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That was always potentially the problem, how fast it would all resolve once Will works out it is Hannibal.
This way he is discredited and has to prove his sanity before he can even go about proving Hannibal is the killer.
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Pennilenko
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It is going to be very difficult for Will to prove his sanity, they spent the entire season having every human being he is in contact with asking themselves what he might be capable of if he broke under stress. Even his two closest friends don't trust his sanity and question his actions.
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shiznitz
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That was always potentially the problem, how fast it would all resolve once Will works out it is Hannibal.
This way he is discredited and has to prove his sanity before he can even go about proving Hannibal is the killer.
The movie Red Dragon (and obviously the source material) have already established that Will Graham successfully convinces his colleagues. The knowledge about the true Hannibal is realized in a completely different way in this TV series, though. Season Two will not be as good if the writers spend many episodes on Will asserting he is not crazy. The ending left me with no sense of how season two will proceed since the "canon" has already been radically altered. I think the TV show had to do that to keep interest. |
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Ironwood
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And it really, really did. It was a great show and I have high hopes for season 2.
I just didn't expect them to be HERE at the end of 1.
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shiznitz
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And it really, really did. It was a great show and I have high hopes for season 2.
I just didn't expect them to be HERE at the end of 1.
I sort of agree with you, but it would have been difficult to draw it out much longer and the season end makes the most sense. The other option would be to start season 2 of really hot with the reveal and some kind of chase. |
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Ironwood
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I didn't want them to draw it out though. I wanted him caught.
Though I understand not pushing so much into a single episode. Lecter hasn't even maimed him yet. That's going to be fun. (Though they kind of already did the Will thing with the female FBI agent. That was pretty much how it went down in the books.)
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shiznitz
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Are there any books that cover the period shown in season 1 or was that created from whole cloth? If so, bravo writers.
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Ironwood
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It's part of the backstory to Red Dragon.
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Pennilenko
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It is loosely, with heavy emphasis on loosely, tied to Red Dragon.
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angry.bob
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Okay, we're 6 episodes into season 2 and no one has commented on it yet. Anyone else still watching this?
The last two weeks have had some really interesting things going on with Will Graham.
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Signe
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Yes, I watch it. Mostly for the dead art.  I like it, too. It looks like next week's episode will be fun! |
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MrHat
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Okay, we're 6 episodes into season 2 and no one has commented on it yet. Anyone else still watching this?
The last two weeks have had some really interesting things going on with Will Graham.
I tend to watch shows like this 2-3 in a row, so I'm letting it build a bit. Glad to hear its still interesting, I definitely enjoyed it last year. |
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Soln
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The only tv show I watch that isn't animated. (I don't watch a lot of tv)
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Ironwood
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Okay, we're 6 episodes into season 2 and no one has commented on it yet. Anyone else still watching this?
The last two weeks have had some really interesting things going on with Will Graham.
We don't get it yet mate. I'll be watching when we do. |
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Pennilenko
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This show is just superb. I love every bit of it. I also feel a great misdirection happening.
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Signe
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The last two episodes, especially this last one, have left me dazed and confused. I have no idea what's up but it's officially weird now.
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satael
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The last two episodes, especially this last one, have left me dazed and confused. I have no idea what's up but it's officially weird now.
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Signe
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I didn't think of that! :) Still, this last episode made me wonder if someone had slipped LSD into my orange juice. I'm still not sure if I imagined the entire thing.
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Soln
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It is good. Not often that TV shows are hard to predict. I too am confused.
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Ironwood
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OK, that first episode was... intense. Once again, they seem to be really deviating from the Harris Script, but Christ, it keeps you on the edge of the seat.
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angry.bob
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Well, there's also a third option, though it is pretty unlikely: |
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satael
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So it seems that I unfortunately guessed right,
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Pennilenko
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Well, Friday's episode went in a direction I was not expecting. It looks like the season finale is going to be really good.
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VainEldritch
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Best fucking show on TV - on so many levels. An now it's been picked up by NBC for a third season....  |
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Signe
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Yeah, I'm not sure wtf is happening, either. That's a good thing in a thriller, I think. I absolutely LOVE the super surrealism and murder art in the show, too. There should be a Museum of Conceptual Murder Art somewhere. There isn't, is there?
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Soln
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I love anything where I can't easily predict the narrative. Terrific.
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Pennilenko
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Holy shit. That season finale.  |
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satael
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The finale really surprised me in a positive way. So much so that I wouldn't have been too disappointed with it even if Hannibal hadn't been picked for another season. |
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VainEldritch
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Season finale...  Left my gob well and truly smacked. Brilliant. |
'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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So great.
I wish more people watched this.
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angry.bob
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Compared to the rest of the show I have some pretty big problems with what happened to Verger. Not that it happened, but how it happened. Causing a spinal cord injury that would cause tetraplegia but not death like that is pretty unlikely. |
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Signe
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It all looked like baseball to me. Stupid Dodgers.
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