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Reply #700 on: December 03, 2014, 07:54:03 AM

Are you talking about you and Dorian going to that tavern?  That one wouldn't work for me until I unchecked the quest and used Dorian to enter the room.  I don't know which one of those worked or if it was a combination of both but I finally got the quest to update.

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Reply #701 on: December 03, 2014, 08:01:14 AM

You have to make sure no one else is in your party.  Or at least I did.
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Reply #702 on: December 03, 2014, 08:02:37 AM

It's that quest, but it won't actually activate for me - Mother Giselle doesn't have the letter, and Dorian's conversation options are exhausted whilst every other character I have (even those I don't get on with or use) have cut-scenes and new options after completing a story mission.

It is apparently a known bug so hopefully will get fixed in the patch they are saying will be released fairly soon.
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Reply #703 on: December 03, 2014, 05:57:01 PM

Wonder if he doesn't like you enough?  I never got a quest for Solas on my playthrough, but I got at least something for everyone else.  Solas just never seemed to agree with my choices.
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Reply #704 on: December 03, 2014, 06:15:24 PM

I never got one for Solas either.  He absolutely abhors me.  He's a dick.

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Reply #705 on: December 03, 2014, 06:56:10 PM

Unless you do everything possible for spirits, mage freedom, and elves; he hates you.  He's pretty much Elven Anders, except without the insanity.

It's a pity, since Rift Mages just tear it up.  At this point though, I'd rather take another rogue or Viv.

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Reply #706 on: December 03, 2014, 07:14:49 PM

None of his story choices matter at all in his combat effectiveness.
Shit, even Dorian can work as Auto-CC spam with Flashfire Panic and Necro horror + raise dead while you take control of Sera, Full Draw, Flask of Flame, Long Shot spam, Thousand Cuts.

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Reply #707 on: December 03, 2014, 08:04:32 PM

Don't worry, I'm sure eventually modders will find a way to allow you to rape bears or whatever that will make the game seem better for you.

Solas is definitely a no-go for loyalty no matter how much I try to get him on my side.

Cole too. I'm not sure at all what combination of choices would make Cole totally happy.

Cassandra I thought I did her loyalty mission and made her happy but her card on the selection screen didn't change. Same for Blackwall. Maybe for Blackwall you have to play all the way through Adamant, which I haven't done yet?
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Reply #708 on: December 03, 2014, 08:13:42 PM

Cole for some reason hated my decision at..


I can't figure out the angle for why he hated it so much.  I don't know what resolution he would have preferred.  Don't really care to be honest, he's kind of a throw away character for me.


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Reply #709 on: December 03, 2014, 08:23:53 PM

There are more than two card states for everyone (or at least for several characters), it isn't a binary loyal/not loyal ME2 thing, and isn't always necessarily tied to a personal mission.

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Reply #710 on: December 03, 2014, 08:28:29 PM

Cole doesn't seem to me to have a consistent logic to his preferences, but that makes perfect sense in terms of how he/it is portrayed.
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Reply #711 on: December 03, 2014, 10:25:32 PM

Don't worry, I'm sure eventually modders will find a way to allow you to rape bears or whatever that will make the game seem better for you.

Meh, weakkkk. I don't wanna rape anything in this game. All the women are in the no-fuck zone of looks.
But trust me, Thousand Cuts rape everything. Even dragons or final bosses. Anything. Hell, give Sera Flame Flask a try. Bitch will cut ya, m8.


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Reply #712 on: December 03, 2014, 11:14:57 PM

Cole doesn't seem to me to have a consistent logic to his preferences, but that makes perfect sense in terms of how he/it is portrayed.


Cole wants to help people, that much is obvious.
So do the right thing (tm) and he'll be all over you in no time. I hardly bring him along and could trigger his loyalty mission just fine.
He also hates Templars cause he has a background with them.
His backstory was pretty okay, but his introduction could've been better.
I didn't like how they resolve his conflict with just two options. I thought I could push him down a more 'avenging angel' path, but the only choices given doesn't reflect any of that. I don't even know who invited the fourth party along either. He self invited himself and had the cheek to take over. Damn, Bioware - have a bit of dark streak a bit please, Inquisition is just too nice of an inquisition. Take off the kids glove at some point.

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Reply #713 on: December 04, 2014, 08:02:10 AM

Solas is much more interesting on a second playthrough, and he does kick ass in combat.
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Reply #714 on: December 04, 2014, 09:47:55 AM

Cole greatly disproves.  I WAS HELPING PEOPLE, YOU TWIT.  The Varric/Cassandra stuff is awesome.  Sera swearing in The Fade was awesome.  

I feel like I keep making the wrong decisions, although apparently it doesn't affect the outcome of the game any.

I feel as if I've hit the banter bug.  I don't get much of it, but then again, I've had a pretty static party for a while.  But even when I change it up, not much happens.  There's another annoying bug I've hit: every once in a while, the mouse will stop working for UI selections.  I have to alt-tab back and forth to get it working again.  At least there's a work around, but I'm not sure how something like this made it out of QA (unless it's a specific peripheral problem, then, that might be hard to stumble across).




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Reply #715 on: December 04, 2014, 09:54:37 AM

I'm just glad you have numeric labels on the chat wheel. Fucking hate the unresponsiveness of the wheel.
The judgment felt very, very weak overall. No impact, and just a bunch of bundled approvals/disapproval that flew past on the chat log.

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Reply #716 on: December 04, 2014, 10:48:52 AM

I feel as if I've hit the banter bug.  I don't get much of it, but then again, I've had a pretty static party for a while.  But even when I change it up, not much happens.  There's another annoying bug I've hit: every once in a while, the mouse will stop working for UI selections.  I have to alt-tab back and forth to get it working again.  At least there's a work around, but I'm not sure how something like this made it out of QA (unless it's a specific peripheral problem, then, that might be hard to stumble across).

I've had the same issue with the mouse, although I've only had it occur during dialogue cut-scenes and only occasionally with no apparent rhyme or reason.

For banter, you could try cycling your audio selection (Home Theatre/TV/Headphone/Night option). I've found that it can help at times. Fast travel from the War Room, mounting/dismounting and using the rest function at camps can all help. Or try going offline in Origin, then using the war table fast travel -- that's the one that really helped me.
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Reply #717 on: December 04, 2014, 10:52:35 AM

I'm just glad you have numeric labels on the chat wheel. Fucking hate the unresponsiveness of the wheel.
The judgment felt very, very weak overall. No impact, and just a bunch of bundled approvals/disapproval that flew past on the chat log.


I still have no idea if approval or disapproval does a damn thing.

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Reply #718 on: December 04, 2014, 01:14:50 PM

The keyboard/mouse controls for the game are awful in general. I started having fun with my rogue, and the menu layout started making sense, when I switched to a gamepad.
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Reply #719 on: December 04, 2014, 02:31:36 PM

I'm just glad you have numeric labels on the chat wheel. Fucking hate the unresponsiveness of the wheel.
The judgment felt very, very weak overall. No impact, and just a bunch of bundled approvals/disapproval that flew past on the chat log.


I still have no idea if approval or disapproval does a damn thing.

Only for romances and opening each companions individual plot. You can't romance Varric, Viv, or Cole. 
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Reply #720 on: December 04, 2014, 07:01:30 PM

The keyboard/mouse controls for the game are awful in general. I started having fun with my rogue, and the menu layout started making sense, when I switched to a gamepad.

Ranged rogues have it easier on any setup.
I played melee rogue for like 25 hours or so and felt bored with the same attack pattern of hook and actives.

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Reply #721 on: December 05, 2014, 06:34:06 AM

I still have no idea if approval or disapproval does a damn thing.

Only for romances and opening each companions individual plot. You can't romance Varric, Viv, or Cole. 

I was a dick to Blackwall when I recruited him, and the next time I spoke with him he said "I don't like you, but there are more important things to worry about", then he answered all my questions anyway.  So there's that.
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Reply #722 on: December 05, 2014, 07:16:04 AM

The judgment felt very, very weak overall. No impact, and just a bunch of bundled approvals/disapproval that flew past on the chat log.

Judgements can result in new war table mission lines.
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Reply #723 on: December 05, 2014, 09:04:56 AM

Well, Blackwall used to love me.  I even romanced him because he reminded me a very tiny wee bit of Abbas Jafri, the cricketer, who is gorgeous.  Also I thought there might be some benefit to that sort of indecent behaviour but, no, nothing good happened.  So every time I finished something and had to go back to the War Room, I would rush to Blackwall and kiss him.  That's it.  All kissing for ages.  I should have realised he was a loser when I found him living in a fucking stable.  And he SO didn't want to get involved with me but I pushed it and he finally succumbed to my slutty wiles.  FINALLY, after I did that whole winter palace stuff, he, you know...  What a disappointment!  I did get to see myself naked... boy, am I cute from the neck down... but he split!  WTF???  I did try and break up with him earlier since all he did was whinge and moan and complain but I never got the option to dump him after all that kissing.  Dammit.  So now he's awol.  This is absolutely the last time I ever become involved with a man again.  All they do is run off!  That's fucking shit, that is!

I am SO angry!

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Reply #724 on: December 05, 2014, 09:24:00 AM

I haven't tried it, but if you romance someone else does the game give you a choice between your old romance and the new one?  Or can you be polyamorous?
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Reply #725 on: December 05, 2014, 12:19:21 PM

Well, Blackwall used to love me.  I even romanced him because he reminded me a very tiny wee bit of Abbas Jafri, the cricketer, who is gorgeous.  Also I thought there might be some benefit to that sort of indecent behaviour but, no, nothing good happened.  So every time I finished something and had to go back to the War Room, I would rush to Blackwall and kiss him.  That's it.  All kissing for ages.  I should have realised he was a loser when I found him living in a fucking stable.  And he SO didn't want to get involved with me but I pushed it and he finally succumbed to my slutty wiles.  FINALLY, after I did that whole winter palace stuff, he, you know...  What a disappointment!  I did get to see myself naked... boy, am I cute from the neck down... but he split!  WTF???  I did try and break up with him earlier since all he did was whinge and moan and complain but I never got the option to dump him after all that kissing.  Dammit.  So now he's awol.  This is absolutely the last time I ever become involved with a man again.  All they do is run off!  That's fucking shit, that is!

I am SO angry!

There's more to that story, though I don't know if it will make you less angry!

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Reply #726 on: December 05, 2014, 08:12:23 PM

I haven't tried it, but if you romance someone else does the game give you a choice between your old romance and the new one?  Or can you be polyamorous?

Dunno, I got bored and just click on the Heart icon on anyone I see after seeing the cringeworthy duel in Val Royeaux.
The Winter Palace was terribad overall. Was happy when it was over. So many useless collectible shit littering the whole place.
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Reply #727 on: December 06, 2014, 03:08:33 AM

I haven't tried it, but if you romance someone else does the game give you a choice between your old romance and the new one?  Or can you be polyamorous?
If you are romancing someone you will get option added to the standard talk subjects to end that relationship, should you wish so. You can then pursues another one.

Apparently you can also still press the 'flirt' option with other people if you're romancing someone else, but how that shapes the (dis)approval of affected parties is anyone's guess. At one point I had Sera 'slightly disapprove' flirting line because my dwarf was apparently one scene away from hooking up (or not) with Blackwall. As experiment I reloaded, told Blackwall "nope" beforehand and then hit the flirt line with Sera, and this time it was approved. (also, apparently ending Blackwall path allowed Josephine's romance path to progress; it was sitting dormant until then, presumably because Blackwall path was more advanced? idk)
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Reply #728 on: December 06, 2014, 11:53:06 AM

Just got this and Jesus fuck is are the interface and controls terrible. Wake me up when there's a useable tactical mode, I don't have to spam a button for autoattacks, I don't have to spam a button to search, and I can move with a goddamn mouse.  I cannot wrap my brain around the fact that some adult human beings thought that any of these things was a good idea. Such a huge step back from DA:O.  I hear that the game is a bitch to mod, which is a shame because the story is getting good reviews.

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Reply #729 on: December 06, 2014, 11:58:57 AM

Dragon Age Inquisition now officially Game of the Year!

Also wins the award of best RPG. In other news, Farcry 4 is the best shooter.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dragon-age-inquisition-wins-goty-at-game-awards/1100-6424005/

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Reply #730 on: December 06, 2014, 12:12:25 PM

Just got this and Jesus fuck is are the interface and controls terrible.

I cannot wrap my brain around the fact that some adult human beings thought that any of these things was a good idea.

Such a huge step back from DA:O.

You are talking about the best game of 2014. DA:O never was GOTY. It didn't even get selected as nominee in 2009. (I know that, just looked it up.)

Just as friendly advice, it would be better for you to stop posting and avoid the shame of showing your bad taste and lack of judgment in gaming. 

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Reply #731 on: December 06, 2014, 01:37:30 PM

I chuckled.  why so serious?

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Reply #732 on: December 06, 2014, 07:13:53 PM

Eat a dick. At least story is getting good reviews.  why so serious?

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Reply #733 on: December 06, 2014, 07:22:19 PM

Eat a dick.

Why, I'd love to!  why so serious?


Seriously: I am not condemning the game, despite really (IMHO) unforgivable issues (like crappy controls) it seems have to quite some meat on it and appeals to at least certain players, even among the critical F13 crowd.


The GOTY award leaves a wrong taste though, because you just know it would have gotten it in every case, whether deserved or not.

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Reply #734 on: December 06, 2014, 07:29:09 PM

Just got this and Jesus fuck is are the interface and controls terrible. Wake me up when there's a useable tactical mode, I don't have to spam a button for autoattacks, I don't have to spam a button to search, and I can move with a goddamn mouse.  I cannot wrap my brain around the fact that some adult human beings thought that any of these things was a good idea. Such a huge step back from DA:O.  I hear that the game is a bitch to mod, which is a shame because the story is getting good reviews.

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