Are you done? Why?

[Ironwood]

Really, elitism about something as mindless as Diablo 3?

I don't want someone who didn't even hit the level cap, didn't finish the 2nd difficulty, and quit because the game isn't fun to be who Blizzard is focusing on RIGHT NOW. Nobody should want that. Those players have already moved on. They were never hooked by the game and are going to be the hardest to lure back.

Blizzard is better off keeping their current customers happy, while inciting back those that let the hooks sink in, quit, but keep checking for positive changes. This would generally mean fleshing out endgame along with progression through Hell and Inferno. Once they're comfortable that they're not hemorrhaging players at this stage, then they can focus on bringing in new players while also ironing out issues to hook players more on initial playthroughs.

It has nothing to do with elitism, it has to do with focusing efforts on what matters most right now.

You, Sir, are on crack.

[Paelos]

He's also never run a business, obviously.

[Malakili]

The funny thing is that among the players still around and the players who left I'd say the MAIN problem is the same - they need better uniques(legendaries) at all levels, they need better itemization especially pre-60, and they need to up the drop rate on good items (especially pre-60). For good measure, let Hell mode Act 3 + 4 drop reasonable (but not highest end) loot, and call it a day.

I'm still playing and I'd be totally on board for this, and I think it would probably make everyone else happy too!

[Paelos]

The funny thing is that among the players still around and the players who left I'd say the MAIN problem is the same - they need better uniques(legendaries) at all levels, they need better itemization especially pre-60, and they need to up the drop rate on good items (especially pre-60). For good measure, let Hell mode Act 3 + 4 drop reasonable (but not highest end) loot, and call it a day.

I'm still playing and I'd be totally on board for this, and I think it would probably make everyone else happy too!

I agree, and that's the funniest point. It's like what I'm advocating as change to improve the business would somehow piss off the remaining consumers. No, it would FIX THE GAME FOR ALL. The problem has always been the loot and the crappy decisions around it.

[Ironwood]

Yeah, and it's what sunk Torchlight too.  The loot was incomprehensible and, frankly, quite dire.

[Ironwood]

I mean, fuck it, it's a slot machine right ?  It's a goddamn pellet press for gamers.  That's what it is.

So why the fuck would you make a slot machine where you put in 10p and, if you were lucky, 5p would fall out ?  It's just astrofuckinomically lame.  And then, to really pound it right up your fucking shitter, they say 'Oh and if you win all these 5p's for the rest of time, you'll eventually be moved up to a bigger and harder slot machine where the chance of 15p dropping every blue fucking moon might happen.'

Fuck.

That.

(And, what's worse, every other cunt is selling their 5p on the online auction house for 150 quid a time.  Fuck, in fact, That.)

[Ingmar]

The funny thing is that among the players still around and the players who left I'd say the MAIN problem is the same - they need better uniques(legendaries) at all levels, they need better itemization especially pre-60, and they need to up the drop rate on good items (especially pre-60). For good measure, let Hell mode Act 3 + 4 drop reasonable (but not highest end) loot, and call it a day.

I'm still playing and I'd be totally on board for this, and I think it would probably make everyone else happy too!

I agree, and that's the funniest point. It's like what I'm advocating as change to improve the business would somehow piss off the remaining consumers. No, it would FIX THE GAME FOR ALL. The problem has always been the loot and the crappy decisions around it.

I got confused and thought the ilvl reset that would fuck over the current AH users was your idea, so that's where I was coming from on that one bit.

[Paelos]

No, i just want to fix drop rates so they are fun, and add in a coherent way for items to naturally work their way out of the system.

And fix crafting because it's pointless.

[Typhon]

I think we all agree that the loot that drops is ass. I don't really think it's drop rate though, I think it that there are too few attributes that make a good item, and far too many attributes that are ass.

Example: Any weapon that drops that doesn't have high dps is ass, but because each weapon has so many largely-pointless affixes that can appear on the item, and the range of those affix is so large, the vast majority of items that drop will just suck.  Is that a drop-rate problem or an itemization problem?  I think itemization, because there are plenty of drops that I have to pick up on any one run.

I think enhancing crafting to allow a player to take an "almost good" item and make it good would help enormously.

[Ratman_tf]

Meh. I made it though normal and lost interest in hell mode, because the game is too static for replayability. The overland levels are all identical, except for the occasional side quest that opens up. I want more interactive dungeons, and more procedurally generated maps.

[Sion Verdox]

I am all done, for the same reasons most quoted here! I played a Demon Hunter to 60 but gave up on inferno, I played a bit with all the other classes (most up to around 40 ish) and dabbled with hardcore for a bit so the playability was ok(ish) for me but I am now bored of the levels and the fact is that item drops are crap, I can find better stuff on the AH and where is the fun in that? I at least want a chance of finding something decent!

Still! It was worth the money, kept me playing every night for a good few weeks so I got my money’s worth, no complaints about that from me! Cheap entertainment, I can’t even go to the cinema for the cost of that game and it kept me going for weeks.

[Setanta]

4 60s, Monk to Act 3 Inferno, Mage to 47 and finished Nightmare on her. I'll be dammed if I can be bothered grinding her through NM to hit 50.

I picked up the Game of Thrones books and that has finished D3 for me.

I got my money's worth but should have stopped when the game just got mind-numbingly repetitive with no real reward.

[Shatter]

I mean, fuck it, it's a slot machine right ?  It's a goddamn pellet press for gamers.  That's what it is.

So why the fuck would you make a slot machine where you put in 10p and, if you were lucky, 5p would fall out ?  It's just astrofuckinomically lame.  And then, to really pound it right up your fucking shitter, they say 'Oh and if you win all these 5p's for the rest of time, you'll eventually be moved up to a bigger and harder slot machine where the chance of 15p dropping every blue fucking moon might happen.'

Fuck.

That.

(And, what's worse, every other cunt is selling their 5p on the online auction house for 150 quid a time.  Fuck, in fact, That.)

Best analogy of D3 Ive read lol

[Reg]

I have a 60 barbarian banging his head against Act 1 Inferno, a 53 wizard in Act 1 Hell, and 30 something witch doctor in Act 1 Nightmare.  I played a ton of hours and got my money's worth but I think I'm done now until they make some very big changes.

[Merusk]

[...]they just want your box sale and for you to bugger off.  [...]

Blizzard games used to feel like they were created by people who wanted to play games.  Now they feel like they are created by people who want to drive sales.

Mr. Kotick wants to know what's wrong with that. 

[Ironwood]

He's a Cunt, is what's wrong with that.

[Phred]

If someone cannot look back fondly on their time spent in a game how many hours they played is in the end sort of irrelevant. (cough cough ME3)

For me all the events I look back fondlly on can no longer happen because they were nerfed out of existance in Blizzard's ongoing war with exploiters.
So I am hesitant to buy another game from them that is online as they have showed that they are willing to take a hatchet to the little fun things to stop the exploiters rather than designing and testing for potential exploits before releasing. Then again I guess it's cheaper to just nerf the hell out of stuff rather than police the bots.

[Fabricated]

I haven't logged in for like a month and a half now I think.

[Margalis]

For me all the events I look back fondlly on can no longer happen because they were nerfed out of existance in Blizzard's ongoing war with exploiters.

The design of the game actively encourages everyone to be an exploiter. The line between exploiting and playing effectively is nearly non-existent.

[Outlawedprod]

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[Paelos]

Perhaps he's pointing out how those ilvl 63 weapons have the same DPS as being licked by kittens.

[Rokal]

Diablo 3 itemization at its finest. ilvl 63 items with great mods that are total garbage because of low dps.

[waffel]

...It's not like all your skills are based on weapon DPS or anything. 

[Outlawedprod]

The images are a great explanation of why people are done with this game.

[Margalis]

Perhaps he's pointing out how those ilvl 63 weapons have the same DPS as being licked by kittens.

Cat tongues are actually kind of sandpapery though!

[apocrypha]

Plus they've usually been up cat bums so they count as biological warfare too.

[MrHat]

Those on their way out - I've made $120 off of gold sales on the AH just selling my main items on the Gold AH and selling the gold.

The items don't seem to sell fast enough if you try and sell them straight to RMAH.  But a slight undercut on the Gold AH and then selling the gold at $0.25 seems to work great (even though you lose another 15%).

Makes me feel like I got my Collector's Edition and funded my Steam Sale.

[Paelos]

I'm doing the same thing so I can fund my upgrade of MoP digital.

[LK]

Incredible.

[lamaros]

Or you could go to work for a couple of hours, and spend the rest of your time doing something fun?

[Paelos]

Or you could go to work for a couple of hours, and spend the rest of your time doing something fun?

Actually the economics part of this appeals to me. Buying and selling and trading is in my wheelhouse.

[MrHat]

Or you could go to work for a couple of hours, and spend the rest of your time doing something fun?

Took about 15 minutes to put everything up on the AH.  Another minute to sell the gold on the RMAH.

Got an email the next day that my sale went through for about $100.

[Paelos]

I know, we're wasting our time! 

[Morfiend]

I was hoping that my urge to play would come back.

Nope, still doesnt sound like fun.

Damn you GW2 and Dark Souls.