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Reply #35 on: May 19, 2012, 03:23:08 PM

Game is boring me out of my skull.  I remember having fun with Diablo 2 back in the day, but I can't even get myself to get out of act 2. 
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Reply #36 on: May 19, 2012, 03:25:53 PM

I ignore its existence.  Makes the game more fun.
My first character is using the AH since that's what I feel like doing.  Others probably won't care or bother unless I get stuck at a place where I have horrible gear and the mobs\bosses are tearing me apart since my time and patience for farming gear is quite limited in my old age now.  The nerd rage over the AH has been amusing.

I don't feel the game is too polished or bland, I'd rather have everything balanced and working great than a buggy experience that I have to resort to forum reading and various head scratching workarounds to actually progress (which quite a few single player games have had lately it seems).
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Reply #37 on: May 19, 2012, 03:29:36 PM

Why do I need to right click an item to identify them now? There is no consumable, why is this needed?

Originally I thought this was done so people could trade unidentified things on the AH, but then I found that I couldn't post an unidentified item.  It's a head-scratcher.

I am 99% sure it's done for the "unwrap-a-packed-gift-suprise" factor.

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Reply #38 on: May 19, 2012, 03:36:26 PM

I'm having fun, taking my time, thoroughly clearing zones.  I like the small event instances.  The story is good enough, the environments are fantastic.  A polished, fun experience.  Fun fun fun.

But the AH kind of messes up the loot experience.  I don't currently see a need for the smith and JC.  Anything you need is on the AH for dirt cheap. 

I think they messed up there. 
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Reply #39 on: May 19, 2012, 03:48:52 PM

Why do I need to right click an item to identify them now? There is no consumable, why is this needed?

Originally I thought this was done so people could trade unidentified things on the AH, but then I found that I couldn't post an unidentified item.  It's a head-scratcher.

I am 99% sure it's done for the "unwrap-a-packed-gift-suprise" factor.

Jay Wilson said this in an interview.  They liked the idea of identifying, but didn't want people to have to either wait to go back to town (ie. Cain in D2) or have to carry scrolls around.  So they just let you do it this way.
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Reply #40 on: May 19, 2012, 03:56:01 PM

I check the AH on the "10s" and put max buyout at 2000g. If I can't find it in that range, I don't get it. I have bought a ton of the crafting essence though.

Gems need to be a different colour than white and WHY OH WHY is there no "PING" noise.

I have to remember not to use my ACT 2 char to go back and give friends loot in Act 1.

Other than that, love it.

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Reply #41 on: May 19, 2012, 04:26:09 PM

I got into 90+clvl on a few characters in D2. I'm not certain I'll hit cap with D3. It's good although ping hits 400ms to Sydney and results in teleporting mobs sometimes. My Biggest gripe is they have WoWified the game. I'm not touching the AH to play but I can see how it can trivialise the gameplay. Too much scripting of bosses - The Butcher is a prime example. In D1 "Ahhh... fresh meat as ranged meant "I hope you've cleared the instance because you are going to need to run" (unless you door exploited). In D2 it means "follow the scripted movements".

Storyline is good (I'm mid Act 2 at lvl 22) - achievements are "meh - nice bandwagoin").

Gamepleay is "oh wow, nice - an experience shrine" when there are no fucking mobs around for the next 2 minutes - WTF?Huh Seriously, D1 and D2 were all about Serious Sam style hack and slash. The sparsity of mobs in D3 is tear-worthy. Too much fearing from purple mobs sucks - I've died more than a few times to being chain feared. Hint Blizzard: I want to PLAY the game, not sit and watch while mobs get medieval on me. Likewise teleporting purples... as a DH I'm ranged and kiting and your mobs teleport to my glass-cannon ass? Even when I can vault they 'port again.

DH is shitty to level, especially early on when your Paladin won't tank. At 22 it's getting easier, but the death runs are frustrating.

Biggest complaint: Levelling my Monk to 13, wondering why I can't see my friends from SC2/WoW on realID... only to realise that I got defaulted to the Euro servers. I live in Australia, not fucking Austria you morons! I had to restart my chars :S

Sounds like a big rant but I am enjoying it (I'm a masochist and sticking with the DH for now). I don't think it has the longevity for me though.

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Reply #42 on: May 19, 2012, 04:40:38 PM

I wish pages and gems were a color other than white. I also wish gems and rings had their proper drop sound.

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Reply #43 on: May 19, 2012, 04:56:16 PM

Seriously, D1 and D2 were all about Serious Sam style hack and slash. The sparsity of mobs in D3 is tear-worthy.

It picks up a lot in Act 3
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Reply #44 on: May 19, 2012, 05:03:49 PM

I'm having fun, taking my time, thoroughly clearing zones.  I like the small event instances.  The story is good enough, the environments are fantastic.  A polished, fun experience.  Fun fun fun.

But the AH kind of messes up the loot experience.  I don't currently see a need for the smith and JC.  Anything you need is on the AH for dirt cheap. 

I think they messed up there. 

I think crafting is a gold sink for people who like to gamble.
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Reply #45 on: May 19, 2012, 05:16:48 PM

Gamepleay is "oh wow, nice - an experience shrine" when there are no fucking mobs around for the next 2 minutes - WTF?Huh

Lmao... yeah.

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Reply #46 on: May 19, 2012, 05:25:08 PM

Has anyone managed to join a pub game with more than one other person idling / botting? I've done so around 3 times, and it's only been one other person, not four more people.

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Reply #47 on: May 19, 2012, 05:57:46 PM

Act 3 gets swarmy finally, but it sucks it takes 2 acts to really get to that.

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Reply #48 on: May 19, 2012, 06:08:10 PM

I am seriously fascinated by you guys letting the AH mess everything up for you.

I've gotten more awesome gear just swapping with party-mates than buying...
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Reply #49 on: May 19, 2012, 06:13:35 PM

I don't feel very attached to my character since I can just switch skills around at will. I completely understand why Blizzard did this but I had more fun in D2 doing eclectic research into skills and bringing a character concept into fruition; it was a kind of compact that paid off down the road. There are choices in D3 but they're back-ended and early gameplay has zero strategic planning as a result. Shrug.
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Reply #50 on: May 19, 2012, 06:20:55 PM

Gripes:
Legendary items don't have any unique affixes. They are often outclasses by blues/rares. Dev intended a mix of rares/blues/legendary for end-game gear. The result is possibly finding many, many completely worthless legendary items which are outclasses by blues
The gem slot takes an affix slot, and a gem isn't going to give enough bonus to make up for the missing affix. I can put a +14 vitality gem in a pair of pants. Great, except it took an affix slot that could have possibly been +30 vitality
The whole AH in general. Every single item's worth is broken down to simple gold. Meh
Earlygame crafting
Heavily scripted boss encounters, and bosses dropping shit items. I understand this is done to discourage farming, but they really should have a first-kill loot table similar to D2*
No form of PvP
No real money AH (don't really care too much, but would like to have seen it make the game's release since the game has been in development for 6 years...)
Would have liked to spend more time in Act 4 heaven, it felt way, way too railroaded compared to the other Acts



I still love the game, and I'm trying not to be too critical. I understand the AH will change over time, crafting may kick ass late game, PvP will be added, RM AH will be added, and some other issues will be ironed out.

*Would like to build on this more. Remember the first time you killed Diablo in D2? The rush, combined with him dropping 1-2 uniques and 1-2 set items was a feeling I never, ever got sick of.  Sure the items might not have been amazing, but the unique would have pretty cool UNIQUE affixes on them, unique icons and unique looks. That excitement just isn't there in D3...
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Reply #51 on: May 19, 2012, 06:25:30 PM

I don't feel very attached to my character since I can just switch skills around at will. I completely understand why Blizzard did this but I had more fun in D2 doing eclectic research into skills and bringing a character concept into fruition; it was a kind of compact that paid off down the road. There are choices in D3 but they're back-ended and early gameplay has zero strategic planning as a result. Shrug.

I *love* that I can shuffle skills around and try different things without needing to roll a new character every time.  This is definitely a feature, not a bug, for me.
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Reply #52 on: May 19, 2012, 06:47:19 PM

I don't feel very attached to my character since I can just switch skills around at will. I completely understand why Blizzard did this but I had more fun in D2 doing eclectic research into skills and bringing a character concept into fruition; it was a kind of compact that paid off down the road. There are choices in D3 but they're back-ended and early gameplay has zero strategic planning as a result. Shrug.

I *love* that I can shuffle skills around and try different things without needing to roll a new character every time.  This is definitely a feature, not a bug, for me.

Given how much runes switch a skill around, I redo my skill bar very frequently when I get a new rune or two and see if I dig how it works with that setup.

I'd hate D3's skills with no instant respecs. It would suck so badly.
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Reply #53 on: May 19, 2012, 06:53:25 PM

Complaint #1...Feeling some carpal tunnel on my mouse hand for the first time since WoW vanilla days.

Minor Complaint #2 ...I don't even bother looking hard at loot any more, it all just goes to the vendor.

Like others have said, I just go shopping at the start of every new Act and buy the best gear I find for under 5k each slot, and is up to +2 lvls. Most of it is less than 2k. Nothing I find during the course of adventuring matches what I find on the AH.
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Reply #54 on: May 19, 2012, 07:34:43 PM

Complaint #1...Feeling some carpal tunnel on my mouse hand for the first time since WoW vanilla days.

Yah, this. My arm is starting to feel the beginnings of major pain to come.  I imagine in a week I'll have to take a break for a few days and go play console rpgs or something.  I just can't click this much for 2+ hours a day.


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Reply #55 on: May 19, 2012, 08:33:30 PM

Fuck lag

That's my biggest complaint
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Reply #56 on: May 19, 2012, 10:30:00 PM

Has anyone managed to join a pub game with more than one other person idling / botting? I've done so around 3 times, and it's only been one other person, not four more people.

Best way I've found is to open your own game to the public and carry on playing. Most of the time if people join and see someone actually playing instead of standing around they stay. I rarely get 4 player games that way but often end up with 3 player teams that stay together for a couple of hours.

This is my main gripe actually, I'd like a game browser rather than just a "Join random game" button.

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Reply #57 on: May 19, 2012, 10:31:04 PM

My complaint is also about the AH. It ruins a lot of the fun of finding new gear or crafting something cool. I can either spend 8k gold and a bunch of materials trying 4 times to create a decent chest piece, or I can just go to the AH and buy something way better than anything I could ever make for 2k gold.

I'd like to see them open a no-trade version of the game myself as well.   Make it a checkbox like hardcore at char creation.
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Reply #58 on: May 19, 2012, 10:58:50 PM

My complaint is also about the AH. It ruins a lot of the fun of finding new gear or crafting something cool. I can either spend 8k gold and a bunch of materials trying 4 times to create a decent chest piece, or I can just go to the AH and buy something way better than anything I could ever make for 2k gold.

I'd like to see them open a no-trade version of the game myself as well.   Make it a checkbox like hardcore at char creation.
Never gonna happen. Sorry but the AH is their way of guaranteeing continued development and endless sales. It will have a more stable economy than Greece. If you want to ignore it, you can. Just don't press the button.
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Reply #59 on: May 19, 2012, 11:19:21 PM

Clan/guild stuff needs fleshed out.  I'd love to have a F13 chat window going instead of it being limited to just the group. 

The game I have no complaints over, other than lag.  Some of the added benefit stuff needs work though.  I'm hoping that they continue development like WoW and expand on what they have.
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Reply #60 on: May 19, 2012, 11:40:18 PM

No complaints here either.  This has been great fun, even if Diablo is owning my ass right now.  Anyone notice how they incorporated from Demon Souls the crystal worm?  I thought that was a great little thing to incorporate.  It has led to more than one death for me since I pretty much focus upon killing that little treasure goblin when I see him.

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Reply #61 on: May 20, 2012, 12:13:30 AM

To be honest, the game isn't grabbing me like D2 did. It's probably just an age thing, but I couldn't be bothered to play it until like 9:00-10:00 PM last night even though I got home at 6. I played for an hour, then decided I'd rather just sleep in than continue playing.

But you've still managed to get to 40. That doesn't sound like lack of interest. :)
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Reply #62 on: May 20, 2012, 12:19:47 AM

Never gonna happen. Sorry but the AH is their way of guaranteeing continued development and endless sales. It will have a more stable economy than Greece. If you want to ignore it, you can. Just don't press the button.

I think it'd be a pretty niche game mode and only a small percentage of the game would be interested in it.    Just saying to ignore it is missing the point too.   That's like saying you can play hardcore by deleting your character when you die.  You can't get any bragging rights that way.
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Reply #63 on: May 20, 2012, 01:32:36 AM

The worst part is, for my alt-itis addled mind, that you apparently have to slog through Normal mode every time you want to reroll a new class. I can take one challenge free playthrough just experiencing the story, but five times makes the whole thing way boring.

Now tell me I'm wrong about this.

 
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Reply #64 on: May 20, 2012, 02:51:01 AM

Now tell me I'm wrong about this. 

You are wrong. After beating one's head against hell boss packs for a few hours cruising through normal like a demigod on an alt is awesome.

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Reply #65 on: May 20, 2012, 02:52:42 AM

In Diablo 2 you could get your high level buddies to rush a new character up in levels very quickly, but Blizzard might be clamping down on that in this iteration. There is at least the ability to skip to the final quest in an act with the help of a friend, but then you're faced with the problem of being horribly under-leveled.

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Reply #66 on: May 20, 2012, 03:51:15 AM

Every toon has to play through all the difficulty levels? That is brutal.

I thought once you unlocked them on one toon, you had the choice to play them on your other ones.
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Reply #67 on: May 20, 2012, 04:00:56 AM

I'm almost certain you can get Nightmare unlocked just by jumping in on the last quest of Normal.  Hell requires both the last quest of Nightmare AND level 50.

You definitely don't have to do all of the quests in a difficulty though as both of my characters have a few quests missing each from jumping out of friends' co-op games to grab a bite to eat or whatnot.

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Reply #68 on: May 20, 2012, 04:44:27 AM

 - Item tooltips in the AH clip off the bottom of the screen
 - It would be nice to give followers more equipment
 - Dyes for shields

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Reply #69 on: May 20, 2012, 04:55:11 AM

I'm almost certain you can get Nightmare unlocked just by jumping in on the last quest of Normal. 


You can unlock Nightmare by jumping to a toon who's already killed Diablo but hasn't turned-in the final quest, yes.  I almost did so with Cheddar when he killed Diablo the first time. The angel had the big final "!" above her head, which I now know would have bumped me to Nightmare.

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