The sky has not fallen (yet)

[Falconeer]

Less angered comment is:

It's annoying having to wait some more (considering that, pretending things have been OK from January through March, it has been 3 months of dead nights on an empty Republic Fleet) after having been teased into hoping today was going to be move day... only to find out that no that's not the case.

Even if your point were valid Luckton, and from _their_ point of view it certainly is, I would have appreciated more communication about what servers were going to get a transfer and some sort of scheduling so even if I weren't in the first batch I could have still had an idea of when that was going to happen.

My point was just that once again Bioware is asking for patience. But while I understand that you can't code a functioning Looking-For-Dungeon tool overnight, or redesign a whole Open World PvP area in a week, let alone timely release the PvP ranking system you promised when you promised it, I think THIS TIME AROUND they could have just communicated everything a bit better and a little less vaguely. The way this came out today was really annoying. They could have at least put out a list of underpopulated servers, and not having done so led us (me) on obviously empty ones to assume we were certainly going to be moved. Finding out I am not is irritating.
Of course I overreacted, it's just a game.

[Minvaren]

Dev Blog post on transfers.

This process will be gradual and staged over time. Despite huge improvements being made to the Character Transfer Service by our server team, there are millions of characters to be moved and there is a limit to how many can be moved daily. We want your character to be transferred as quickly as possible, but we will need you to be patient as the process completes. Once your transfer starts we estimate it will complete in a few hours, but with the potential volume of transfers occurring, you may find your character is queued for transfer for a while as we deal with the high volume.

We're sure many of you are interested to learn which servers are eligible for outgoing transfers and which servers are eligible to receive transfers. However, because the process will be gradual, we cannot provide that information in advance. Depending on the number of characters transferred, the destination and origin servers eligible for transfer may be altered during the process. We don't want to promise a destination in case it may change. Listings will become available as servers become eligible for transfer. We can tell you that all server types and languages will be respected. You will not find your PvE characters transferred to a PvP server, or vice versa!

Looks like they might have fixed the bugged resource nodes in today's patch notes too, which is good.

[Crumbs]

Didn't Rift allow free-for-all transfers pretty early on? 

[Raknor]

I must admit, I was really looking forward to having more information today.  IE Knowing whether my server will be a destination server or if we should start packing up the guild bank on alts in preparation for the move. 

Also be nice to know if raids this week will be impacted.  If we are a destination server I don't see much impact.  If we need to coordinate a guild move... that's a bigger problem.

[koro]

Considering how utterly fucked their "create a character that's not a naked level 1 newbie out of thin air" system was in beta (it killed servers), I'd say it's for the best that they're starting out slow.

[Lantyssa]

Speaking of, if you're still active Sky, can you set the withdraw limit to something more than 1 item a week?  Thanks.

[Ingmar]

I don't really have a problem with the slow startup, either. I'm guessing this is a big part of why:

For guild members and masters, you will not be able to transfer your guild as a whole to your new server; instead you will need to reform it. If you have a guild bank, it will be re-granted to your new guild on your destination server by Customer Service. This is not an automatic process and you will have to contact Customer Service directly.

If they just opened the floodgates all at once you can bet their recently-downsized Customer Service organization would be totally fucked with all the manual guild bank moves.

EDIT: Interestingly they don't seem to be forcing you to pick a specific destination server? That's not how I thought this would go down.

EDIT 2: Never mind, found the destinations - they're not listed on swtor.com/transfer but they are listed here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=4605947#post4605947

[Minvaren]

The article over on Darth Hater seems to list the designated source and destination servers.  They're also listed in the SWTOR account transfer page.

They've also apparently had 10 more source servers added since this morning, so "gradual" might be faster than expected.

[Evildrider]

I don't see the rage over transfers.  It's basically what they said they were going to do.

[Falconeer]

If "gradual" means that all transfers will be done in a few days of course I would be MORE THAN happy and my rage would be misplaced. If that will be the case I'll just apologise. If it means a few weeks, then let me be angry. It doesn't hurt you after all.

[Ingmar]

I'm sure it will be weeks. Focus your rage on your Blood Bowl match!

[Falconeer]

Which should be in a few hours. Do you need me to beat the lamaros?

[Ingmar]

I just want more replays to watch!

[Sjofn]

Bleh, I hope we wind up mooshed with Lord Adraas, because the only name of mine not taken on Ebon Hawk is Nellaria. 

[Sky]

Speaking of, if you're still active Sky, can you set the withdraw limit to something more than 1 item a week?  Thanks.

Must've been some change; it was set to like 13348763, which is what got set when I tried to 9 it out (9999999999).

Bleh, I hope we wind up mooshed with Lord Adraas, because the only name of mine not taken on Ebon Hawk is Nellaria. 

Why would either guild move? Last I knew Shien was decently populated?

I wish more games would do it like Planetside did. After the merger, I played my TR guy more because Komoto-K was such a cool badge to have (having been moved off Konreid).

[Fordel]

Shien is getting worse overtime, so it may be worth looking into moving. Especially if the server moves away.

[Sjofn]

Shien isn't particularly well populated. I haven't seen it hit "standard" in ages, it's always just "light" now. Lord Adraas, on the other hand, is still hitting "standard," and they seem to be pushing to really fatten up the already chubby servers. Jedi Covenant and The Fatman both have big ol' populations (last night they were both "full"), and they're destination servers.

[Evildrider]

So according to someone's "source" the next batch of servers will be announced at 5:30-7:30 CDT.  I guess my server Kaas City will be a destination for Rubat Crystal.

[Evildrider]

Shien isn't particularly well populated. I haven't seen it hit "standard" in ages, it's always just "light" now. Lord Adraas, on the other hand, is still hitting "standard," and they seem to be pushing to really fatten up the already chubby servers. Jedi Covenant and The Fatman both have big ol' populations (last night they were both "full"), and they're destination servers.

The server that got moved to Fatman was one of the ones where they were complaining about having like 8 ppl on fleet at primetime.

[Sjofn]

Fatman is the server where people bitch about it being "crowded," though. There are a couple of reliably "standard" populated servers that would benefit from those eight people more, unless your goal is "YES GIANT FAT SERVERS AHOY." Which is fine by me, but makes it seem unlikely Shien isn't going to wind up being phased out.

[Zetor]

Bleh, I hope we wind up mooshed with Lord Adraas, because the only name of mine not taken on Ebon Hawk is Nellaria. 

As a Lord Adraas'er, beware what you wish for.  

[well ok, things may have changed A BIT since january, but still...]

[Sjofn]

I already have a character I play fairly regularly there, there's nothing wrong with it! Except maybe the fact the Republic sucks at PvP a lot of the time.

[Zetor]

Yea, pvp was... interesting. We did have a heavy 'eleet pvp' imp population with maybe 5-6 republic people who were interested in pvp at all (lol Ilum) and supercatasses on the imperial side who hit like rank 70 in mid-jan and spam queued in 4man premades... but then, I'm sure people have caught up to them by now.

e: and if you see anyone from Jademoon (especially Aza/Tess), tell them Zaph says they suck. That is all.  

[Sjofn]

I haven't gone into the level 50 PvP (and don't intend to, the gear grind is retarded and I've no interest in it), but the sub-50 stuff has a lot of "aw crap, Imp premade" chatter. Although to be fair, the Republic people have yet to just roll over and say "let them win" or anything, so at least they have spirit or something. I just wish the billions of vanguards and shadows I seem to wind up with would remember they can taunt and guard and shit. I heal them! I heal them as hard as I can! I just wish they'd love me back. 

[Bunk]

Speaking of, if you're still active Sky, can you set the withdraw limit to something more than 1 item a week?  Thanks.

Last time I was on, I found out that picking up an item from the guild bank, looking at it, and putting it back - counts as your one item for the week.

[Evildrider]

I haven't gone into the level 50 PvP (and don't intend to, the gear grind is retarded and I've no interest in it), but the sub-50 stuff has a lot of "aw crap, Imp premade" chatter. Although to be fair, the Republic people have yet to just roll over and say "let them win" or anything, so at least they have spirit or something. I just wish the billions of vanguards and shadows I seem to wind up with would remember they can taunt and guard and shit. I heal them! I heal them as hard as I can! I just wish they'd love me back. 

The pubs are so bad on my server that a portion of them have stated that all they do is kill and forget the objectives.  :(

[Minvaren]

From memory, Shien was about in the middle of the average server pop range on that guy's chart, so I figure it will take a few days to get to us.

30-40 on the fleet during prime time these days (since the 1.2/World Event rush), only seen the server pop below 100 total twice (and once was 15 minutes after maintenance ended).

(edit to add : Supposedly they are announcing the next round of from/to servers this evening)

(re-edited to add : apparently they found an issue with the transfers and are holding off on more until after maintenance tonight)

[Lantyssa]

I have no desire to move.  If I lose even a single name I'll be rather unhappy.

Maybe they're doing a sort where lightest + heaviest go first, then so on down the line.

Last time I was on, I found out that picking up an item from the guild bank, looking at it, and putting it back - counts as your one item for the week.

I think just moving it from one slot to another does, too...

[Amaron]

The server that got moved to Fatman was one of the ones where they were complaining about having like 8 ppl on fleet at primetime.

I'm actually on that server.   I did a fist pump when I saw the transfer list.    Having 8 people on at fleet at primetime sounds too high.   I'm actually a bit worried though.   I already know several people talking about resubbing due to this.

[Ingmar]

There's pretty strong sentiment in general in favor of moving (assuming we aren't a destination) from Slap people I've talked to, just as a heads-up for everyone. Nobody wants to get left on a server that everyone else deserted, and some people really want a busy auction house.

The naming issue is really the only thing that is coming up as a negative.

[Lantyssa]

If we're a move-from server I fully expect to have to.  I'm just hopping we're a destination server.

[Evildrider]

I was hoping for a transfer with options.  So I can get away from the douche canoes on my server.

[Ingmar]

If we're a move-from server I fully expect to have to.  I'm just hopping we're a destination server.

Yeah, same. I should really have said the name thing is only the long-term negative; there's a lot of short-term annoyance with having to move all your alts and rename, I additionally have to manually empty the vault, disband the guild, open a ticket to get the new vault created, etc.

EDIT: It does give us the opportunity to rename the guild, theoretically, since we're like 3 steps removed from the original inside joke at this point and I think well more than half the guild wasn't around for the start of it.

[Amaron]

The fact that the move is optional is just so they can say it isn't server mergers.   Anyone who doesn't transfer is going to be left on a dead server.

[Fordel]

Yea, being left on the ghost town server is not an option. Fuck that noise.