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Reply #1295 on: April 12, 2018, 12:08:36 PM

The Deck was changed in 96 to the fireball version, as you note, but it was in place for a couple years prior to that with the Serras.  The basic design existed prior to Legends, but it really took shape around then.  And it was dominant in the San Francisco meta before I even started, and I started when Legends were starting to be hard to find on the shelves and people were ordering Italian Legends to get the cards.

The first time I encountered it was December 94 when playing at GameKastle in Santa Clara.  I wasn't playing Weissman, but I was playing against someone that copied his deck and had played against him often.  It was the first deck I saw with second level thinking and it changed how I saw the game.

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Reply #1296 on: April 17, 2018, 04:48:17 PM

Kickstarter co-founder and former CEO Perry Chen returns as CEO, over 1/3 of the company including most of the executive staff leaves:

WARNNG Buzzfeed article:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/daveyalba/kickstarter-perry-chen-founder-worship-turmoil

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Reply #1297 on: April 17, 2018, 05:33:33 PM

I mean, there's no world where running that thing is complex so Chen must be a terrible human at a fundamental level.
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Reply #1298 on: April 17, 2018, 08:48:59 PM

I mean, there's no world where running that thing is complex so Chen must be a terrible human at a fundamental level.

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In the fall, he brought in people dressed up as dinosaurs to wander the office for a week as performance art.

Yes.

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Reply #1299 on: April 18, 2018, 07:36:19 AM

That whole article reads like a rejected Silicon Valley script.  Fucking hell.

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Reply #1300 on: April 18, 2018, 08:17:30 AM

I keep telling people who havenít been there:  Silicon Valley is a documentary, not a sitcom.

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Reply #1301 on: April 18, 2018, 10:00:12 AM

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the fact they need 120 people to execute.  We were roughly that many at allrecipes.com but that included taxonomists, marketing, ad sales, ad tech, product, dev, network/dev ops, dba, testing, creative/graphic design, tech/customer support and a whole bunch of one-off positions like social media manager.  They are at best a 50 person org unless either their stack is garbage or their leadership is dumber than a bucket full of hair.
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Reply #1302 on: April 18, 2018, 11:11:12 AM

Considering the amount of traffic and money Kickstarter handles at this point, it seems like it would be a bigger operation than a place like allrecipies.com.  Which, looking at the website, makes me assume its a 1 man operation since it appears to by a slightly more complicated pintrest page.

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Reply #1303 on: April 18, 2018, 04:21:26 PM

EDIT - nevermind. I'm defending a company I don't really like. Carry on, folks.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #1304 on: April 18, 2018, 04:58:19 PM

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the fact they need 120 people to execute.  We were roughly that many at allrecipes.com but that included taxonomists, marketing, ad sales, ad tech, product, dev, network/dev ops, dba, testing, creative/graphic design, tech/customer support and a whole bunch of one-off positions like social media manager.  They are at best a 50 person org unless either their stack is garbage or their leadership is dumber than a bucket full of hair.

allrecipes needing 120 full-time staff is a laugh to me if it helps

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Kickstarter should have like, 20 people max minus a small customer support team.

Allrecipes.com should have like, fucking six people. Maybe.
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Reply #1305 on: April 18, 2018, 07:54:52 PM

EDIT - nevermind. I'm defending a company I don't really like. Carry on, folks.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
I maybe should have put emoticons in my original statement, as I was also mainly just joking and not trying to insult the place.  

Though still, that seems pretty high for that website.....
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Reply #1306 on: April 19, 2018, 04:47:41 PM

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the fact they need 120 people to execute.  We were roughly that many at allrecipes.com but that included taxonomists, marketing, ad sales, ad tech, product, dev, network/dev ops, dba, testing, creative/graphic design, tech/customer support and a whole bunch of one-off positions like social media manager.  They are at best a 50 person org unless either their stack is garbage or their leadership is dumber than a bucket full of hair.

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around why the second CEO left if things were rosy and business as usual so that Chen wanted to step back in. Typically you don't wander off from a company you've been at for less than 5 years if it's going well.

Also, yeah the employee bloat issue sounds ridiculous. That's more people than I have at my company and we produce twice as much yearly revenue than them on a year over year basis.

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Reply #1307 on: April 19, 2018, 04:53:38 PM

Strickler was forced out:
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Several sources close to Stricklerís resignation said he did not want to step down as CEO, but was asked to leave by Chen and the board, and ultimately respected their decision.
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Reply #1308 on: April 19, 2018, 05:28:46 PM

Because they stopped growing, as far as I can see.

Hiring too many people and failing to grow isn't a great look for a CEO.

It could just be because of the other stuff, but I expect the board/investors like seeing that growth, 'special' company or otherwise.

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Reply #1309 on: April 19, 2018, 06:35:52 PM

Lamaros said what I wanted.  Kickstarter is a one-trick pony that missed the IndieGoGo and Patreon models.  It's not growing even with a lot of social networking features.
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Reply #1310 on: April 19, 2018, 06:56:15 PM

Kickstarter is a company where everyone could be a multimillionaire if they only had 20 employees.

Indiegogo is terrible.

Patreon is well, patreon is hot, baked, shit.

All three of them will get crushed by someone sooner rather than later.
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Reply #1311 on: April 19, 2018, 07:05:47 PM

Kickstarter is a company where everyone could be a multimillionaire if they only had 20 employees.

Indiegogo is terrible.

Patreon is well, patreon is hot, baked, shit.

All three of them will get crushed by someone sooner rather than later.

They should be one company.  They're basically just single feature companies. 
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Reply #1312 on: April 19, 2018, 07:15:35 PM

I don't understand how a company with revenue of 7.5million is raising 60mil in venture cap for an idea as undifferentiated and lacking in IP as Patreon.

I mean, I do. But. Idiots.

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Reply #1313 on: April 19, 2018, 08:05:27 PM

Kickstarter is a company where everyone could be a multimillionaire if they only had 20 employees.

Indiegogo is terrible.

Patreon is well, patreon is hot, baked, shit.

All three of them will get crushed by someone sooner rather than later.

They should be one company.  They're basically just single feature companies.  

nah, they all serve different masters

kickstarter folks are dreamers (except for the scammers)
indiegogo is scam artists (except for the dreamers that failed on kickstarter)
patreon is individuals that are mediocre at marketing and nazis (apparently) (these are two categories of people)
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Reply #1314 on: April 19, 2018, 08:09:51 PM

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around why the second CEO left if things were rosy and business as usual so that Chen wanted to step back in. Typically you don't wander off from a company you've been at for less than 5 years if it's going well.

Also, yeah the employee bloat issue sounds ridiculous. That's more people than I have at my company and we produce twice as much yearly revenue than them on a year over year basis.
So, Chen is actually a great CEO as he's fixing the problem?   why so serious?

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Reply #1315 on: April 19, 2018, 11:56:30 PM

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around why the second CEO left if things were rosy and business as usual so that Chen wanted to step back in. Typically you don't wander off from a company you've been at for less than 5 years if it's going well.

Also, yeah the employee bloat issue sounds ridiculous. That's more people than I have at my company and we produce twice as much yearly revenue than them on a year over year basis.
So, Chen is actually a great CEO as he's fixing the problem?   why so serious?
They lost 47, and hired 36 as well as paying for golden parachutes, so probably "no".

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Reply #1316 on: April 21, 2018, 01:45:04 PM

Patreon is one of those things that's going to slowly cannibalize itself to death as they slowly have to restrict what people can make as their profile rises. It's basically porn, podcasts, and Youtube channels.

Google is working on strangling Youtubers to death for using Patreon, Podcasts got other places they could go easily, and Patreon is having to slowly crack down on the porn content they allow which is already making people angry.

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Reply #1317 on: April 21, 2018, 01:51:44 PM

But where else will I go for my furry rape fantasy stories?

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Reply #1318 on: April 21, 2018, 02:13:57 PM

You really don't want to know how much people make per month making basically what you described.

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Reply #1319 on: April 21, 2018, 05:03:56 PM

Patreon is a great idea and an absolute shit platform. I look forward to its inevitable decline that it will ignore until too late because its CEO and employees are so far up their own pretentious asses that they don't see the iceberg until it's too late.

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Reply #1320 on: April 21, 2018, 05:06:31 PM

They already almost fucked up completely once where they tried to destroy small donations cause the fixed fees were cutting into their profits.
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Reply #1321 on: April 23, 2018, 01:09:18 PM

But where else will I go for my furry rape fantasy stories?
Well....

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