NFL 2012

[Shannow]

AFC championship game will depend on which Joe Flacco turns up. I expect another 31-28 game or so. Pats can only stop a team for 3 quarters (and has been this way for 6 years).

I want the rematch with the 49ers though. A lot of that craptastic December game was Pats playing shitty and coughing up the ball. However if SF beats us in the SB then we can definitely say Kapernickers is legit.

Mind you our kick coverage team better fucking improve. After the first 94 yard run back it took our kicker making two illegal tackles to stop that guy after that (a horse collar and a trip).

[Trippy]

OLB play contain, safeties play over the top, and corners play bump and run from the line = GB win.

I want to be a defensive coordinator in the NFL.  If only I had been a better player....

That's an even worse setup than what I was proposing (a spy linebacker). The Niners were having great success running Gore and the other RBs between the tackles (they even talked about that during the broadcast). Keeping the strong safety deep and the OLBs wide would've made that just that much easier.

Edit: RBs

[HaemishM]

No, see you send Woodson into the spy role, play 5 DB's and let the 4 non-Woodson guys cover the shit out of the 49ers wideouts/TE. Because let me tell you, Sam Shields, Tramon Williams and Casey Hayward can fucking cover a motherfucker. If Kaepernick beats you in the air, SO BE IT. By the 2nd half, Capers should have figured out that they were beating the shit out of you on the ground with broken contain and scrambling. There are maybe 4 teams in the NFL I would be worried about beating the Packers secondary this year on the pass - New England, New Orleans and Denver (because of Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Drew Brees) and New York (also because of a Manning but only on a good day). Others might threaten, but I don't think they could beat Green Bay purely with the pass if the Pack shuts down the run and the scrambling. No one on the NFC side could do it - provided the Pack stopped the run.

The Pack got outgameplanned and outplayed.

[Ingmar]

I dunno, it seems pretty clear that GB largely couldn't stop the run, all year. I'm not sure there was a game plan available to them that was going to effectively shut down the SF running game. They were 26th in the league in YPC allowed. They took 3 games to solve Adrian Peterson and he's alone in that offense, Ponder can run OK but he's not exactly what I'd call a multiple threat sort of guy.

[sickrubik]

Packers were #16 against the run at the end of the year. For the most part they kept the rushing under 100 yards, with Frank Gore and Adrian Peterson being the ones that ran all day over them.

[Ingmar]

I prefer to look at YPC instead as a better indicator, personally. Yes, YPG they were 16th but that's going to be at least partially a function of them being up on people because their offense was good, and thus their opponents passing more.

[HaemishM]

I prefer to look at YPC instead as a better indicator, personally. Yes, YPG they were 16th but that's going to be at least partially a function of them being up on people because their offense was good, and thus their opponents passing more.

Exactly. And they were up on San Fran after that pick 6. So again, they weren't GREAT at stopping the run but they weren't bad. And they had shown they could gameplan someone who had torched them (Peterson) and shut him down by forcing him inside.

[sickrubik]

Chargers nab McCoy. :/

[Nebu]

That's an even worse setup than what I was proposing (a spy linebacker). The Niners were having great success running Gore and the other RBs between the tackles (they even talked about that during the broadcast). Keeping the strong safety deep and the OLBs wide would've made that just that much easier.

Edit: RBs

My contention is that they wouldn't stop Gore anyway.  It prevents the big gain plays while keeping Kaepernick in the pocket.  Gore isn't enough to beat the Packers.  I also should have been more specific as well having the SS cheat into the middle coverage. 

[Paelos]

Chargers nab McCoy. :/

Ok I looked at that and thought, why in the hell would they want Colt McCoy? Then I realized he's a coach. Another offensive coach.

They don't really get it, do they?

[sickrubik]

Chargers nab McCoy. :/

Ok I looked at that and thought, why in the hell would they want Colt McCoy? Then I realized he's a coach. Another offensive coach.

They don't really get it, do they?

I really hate facing former coaches. A lot of people blame McCoy for certain stuff this season, but I thought his adaptability over the last couple of seasons was fantastic. I am also terrified about who we may now end up with at OC.

Clearly the only appropriate move is Norvelous Norv.

[JWIV]

We'll see what happens with the Pats - the big difference is that with Cam Cameron gone, all of a sudden the team remembers that have Ray fucking Rice and a pretty damn good back-up (Bernard Pierce) and don't need Flacco to throw for 50+ times a game.  Instead, they're willing to be patient, which lets an elderly defense catch its breath and keeps the opposing QB (Pey-pey and hopefully Brady) sitting on the sidelines.   It also lets Flacco actually have a chance of selling play action, which is a big help to him.

Seriously - if Cam Cameron was calling the Broncos game, Denver would have easily won.  I was talking to a friend of mine after a touchdown in which it was 1st and goal and they did 3 actual no fucking around running plays and got the touchdown.   Our guess is if it would have been Cameron calling would have been the usual stupid sequence of something like pass to Vonta Leach (their fullback) in the flats, a botched throw into the end zone to a third receiver, a QB sneak, and then a field goal.

Instead, it was Ray Rice, Ray Rice, Ray Rice, touchdown.

So, the Pats game should be interesting to see.

[01101010]

I really hate facing former coaches. A lot of people blame McCoy for certain stuff this season, but I thought his adaptability over the last couple of seasons was fantastic. I am also terrified about who we may now end up with at OC.

Clearly the only appropriate move is Norvelous Norv.

Unless Chud gets to him first. 

[sickrubik]

Apparently the Broncos are targeting Wisenhunt. I would not be mad at this!

[Trippy]

We'll see what happens with the Pats - the big difference is that with Cam Cameron gone, all of a sudden the team remembers that have Ray fucking Rice and a pretty damn good back-up (Bernard Pierce) and don't need Flacco to throw for 50+ times a game.  Instead, they're willing to be patient, which lets an elderly defense catch its breath and keeps the opposing QB (Pey-pey and hopefully Brady) sitting on the sidelines.   It also lets Flacco actually have a chance of selling play action, which is a big help to him.

Seriously - if Cam Cameron was calling the Broncos game, Denver would have easily won.  I was talking to a friend of mine after a touchdown in which it was 1st and goal and they did 3 actual no fucking around running plays and got the touchdown.   Our guess is if it would have been Cameron calling would have been the usual stupid sequence of something like pass to Vonta Leach (their fullback) in the flats, a botched throw into the end zone to a third receiver, a QB sneak, and then a field goal.

Instead, it was Ray Rice, Ray Rice, Ray Rice, touchdown.

So, the Pats game should be interesting to see.

Stop it with the 3 spaces after periods. Use one space, or two if your muscle memory is too ingrained.

[Nevermore]

I am also terrified about who we may now end up with at OC.

Peyton Manning.

[sickrubik]

I am also terrified about who we may now end up with at OC.

Peyton Manning.

Touche.

[JWIV]

We'll see what happens with the Pats - the big difference is that with Cam Cameron gone, all of a sudden the team remembers that have Ray fucking Rice and a pretty damn good back-up (Bernard Pierce) and don't need Flacco to throw for 50+ times a game.  Instead, they're willing to be patient, which lets an elderly defense catch its breath and keeps the opposing QB (Pey-pey and hopefully Brady) sitting on the sidelines.  It also lets Flacco actually have a chance of selling play action, which is a big help to him.

Seriously - if Cam Cameron was calling the Broncos game, Denver would have easily won.  I was talking to a friend of mine after a touchdown in which it was 1st and goal and they did 3 actual no fucking around running plays and got the touchdown.  Our guess is if it would have been Cameron calling would have been the usual stupid sequence of something like pass to Vonta Leach (their fullback) in the flats, a botched throw into the end zone to a third receiver, a QB sneak, and then a field goal.

Instead, it was Ray Rice, Ray Rice, Ray Rice, touchdown.

So, the Pats game should be interesting to see.

Stop it with the 3 spaces after periods. Use one space, or two if your muscle memory is too ingrained.

I have no idea where the three spaces are coming from. Probably best to just break the habit entirely and focus on just using one, since apparently I get spacebar happy.

[Trippy]

I really hate facing former coaches. A lot of people blame McCoy for certain stuff this season, but I thought his adaptability over the last couple of seasons was fantastic. I am also terrified about who we may now end up with at OC.

Clearly the only appropriate move is Norvelous Norv.

Unless Chud gets to him first. 

Jerry will hire him

[JWIV]

This is also beginning to make the rounds - with all the focus on CTE, its been easy to forget that there's a lot of other long term effects from football.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/13/v-fullstory/3179926/dan-le-batard-jason-taylors-pain.html#storylink=cpy

[ghost]

They are the only pro athletes that actually earn their money. 

[Shannow]

This is also beginning to make the rounds - with all the focus on CTE, its been easy to forget that there's a lot of other long term effects from football.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/13/v-fullstory/3179926/dan-le-batard-jason-taylors-pain.html#storylink=cpy

 

[01101010]

This is also beginning to make the rounds - with all the focus on CTE, its been easy to forget that there's a lot of other long term effects from football.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/13/v-fullstory/3179926/dan-le-batard-jason-taylors-pain.html#storylink=cpy

 

Yeah I read this the other day from a buddy's post on G+.

Yeah, no. Me? nope. Never. Fuck right off with all of that. I am a guy and do stupid guy shit like ignore squeaks and twinges of pain, but that? Oh hell no.

[Ingmar]

The part about the foot shots made me writhe - I've had several shots in my toes and the pain is kind of indescribable, and it sounds like what he had done was worse.

[Paelos]

Yep. Ridiculous. Do not want.

[Nebu]

I've had cortisone shots in the knee, shoulder, and ankle just to keep me on the field in college.  You would be amazed what happens in the training room when nobody is looking.  I can't begin to imagine what happens in the NFL. 

[Ingmar]

I've only had cortisone once - in my shoulder, before they decided that it was worth scoping - but it was luxury compared to local anaesthesia in the toes, like not even in the same universe of pain. Just reading the description of the foot shots made me feel ill. You people are nuts. 

[JWIV]

I can imagine and understand the motivation - hell, Taylor even says he'd do it all again. But yah, no thanks.

On a lighter note   

[Tannhauser]

You guys are joking and kidding around but HE'S still out there.  Hiding.  Lurking.  Pock-facing.  What owner will be foolish enough to invite the vampiric Lord of Despair to their city?  No one is safe until the next victim is selected by THE NORV.

[JWIV]

You guys are joking and kidding around but HE'S still out there.  Hiding.  Lurking.  Pock-facing.  What owner will be foolish enough to invite the vampiric Lord of Despair to their city?  No one is safe until the next victim is selected by THE NORV.

That's part of the reason I'm so happy that Caldwell is doing decently. The Ravens were pretty much at the top of the list for either Norv or Andy Reid (and Reid is already taken).

[Paelos]

So the Bears fired a 10-6 coach, and hired a guy from the Canadian football league.

[naum]

So the Bears fired a 10-6 coach, and hired a guy from the Canadian football league.

He can accomplish in 3 downs what has taken them 4.

[sickrubik]

Bad Lip Reading, NFL Edition

http://youtu.be/Zce-QT7MGSE

[sickrubik]

Morte now reporting Chip Kelly is the new Eagles HC.

Of course, it seemed like it was a done deal before with Kelly, so we shall see.

[01101010]

Morte now reporting Chip Kelly is the new Eagles HC.

Of course, it seemed like it was a done deal before with Kelly, so we shall see.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8849699/chip-kelly-bolts-oregon-ducks-coach-philadelphia-eagles-sources

Yep. Odd...