Q23 - This is what happens when your admin isn't me.

[Slayerik]

I was star-fuckin' Raph at Waterthread and have been around ever since.

[MuffinMan]

I've lurked since 2000 when I came across a link to Lum's from Dr. Twister's site, I think. Only site I had over 10 posts at was The Morlocks because spamming is too much fun.

[Soln]

I also followed Raph and another red name (not Galenite, I forget who) also from SWG to Waterthread.  Funny ole world!

[Comstar]

I followed a link to LtM for some UO rant. I *think* it was pre-EQ but that was a long time ago.

[Margalis]

I wouldn't mind writing something for the front page.

Maybe a review of a Bioware game, or of the latest WOW expansion.  

I could write a lot about FFXIV, but then I'd probably get sued. Doesn't seem worth it.

As I mentioned earlier I have been thinking a lot about the differences between old school and new school design and could write some stuff about that, not sure how interesting it would be though, it's approaching inside baseball territory. For example the fairly recent idea that games are centered around a repetitive "core gamplay loop", the shift from enemies that are essentially environmental obstacles to enemies you are you are strongly incentivized or forced to kill every last one of, various health systems over time, etc.

[schild]

Writing about FFXIV wouldn't make it worth playing or worth talking about 

[MahrinSkel]

I set off the chain of events that resulted in the LtM diaspora (helped get Scott hired at Mythic).  I think I started on LtM back in the UO days, and wound up here by way of Slow News Day and Waterthread.

--Dave

[Merusk]

Hah I remember that episode. IIRC, the whole thing was a scam put on by Arcadian Del Sol. He found a picture of some pretty Japanese cosplay girl and gave her a name and totally stereotypical character. What did he call her? Tamuki or something like that?

Possibly.. I wasn't aware of the names and personnas at the time so it all blended together into a blur of "hey this site isn't half bad."

[Arthur_Parker]

Founds Lum's site sometime in 2000 when it looked like this and the forums like this, sometimes it had several major front page updates a day, great site, I even learnt to enjoy reading about EQ. 

Lum was always my favourite writer there, very funny, he had terrible choice in games though.

[Xanthippe]

I don't remember how I ended up here but it had something to do with player2player.net blowing up and then waterthread disappearing. I don't think I posted at either place, or at corpnews or at afkgamer or at any of the other sites I lurked at. Was not part of LtM and didn't even know who he was until he was hired by Mythic. I think I was here for a few years before posting anything at all. I vaguely remember different names but have always been relatively unaware of forum drama and who's being a douchebag.

[Wasted]

I can't remember what first lead me to Waterthread, but I'm sure it was dark and twisted and not of this world.

[Rendakor]

I think I was linked here from HRose's blog, which I had browsed occasionally for lulz after he leaked the new races for TBC. I didn't start posting until Hellgate came out, and I stuck around because sometimes I want to post/read something that isn't 4chan (the only other forum I frequent).

[TheWalrus]

I can't remember what first lead me to Waterthread, but I'm sure it was dark and twisted and not of this world.

Thats ones easy for me. Haemish posted a series on the maturity of the modern MMOG. Most of which as one was reading was easy to see would never happen. Still damn fine writing though.

[Azazel]

My brother was a lurker on Waterthread, and then a lurker here. I followed him here as a lurker for awhile, then started posting. Never did WT myself.

[Selby]

I remember reading the Stratics U-Hauler board and people were posting about this witty guy who wrote about it.  That was Lum, and it was like July\August of 1999 or something like that if I recall correctly.  And then the site changes, the implosions, the forums, the drama, the habits I couldn't break of enjoying witty banter (at times).  I still have all of those damn auto-update emails that Lum set up to email updates of his site out archived in my email folders.  And yeah, 12 year old avatars for the win, mostly because I'm too lazy to find another one.

One thing I've learned over the years at these various sites is don't take it all too seriously.

And forums for certain subjects are booming.  My automotive forums and my music boards tend to continuously bring new blood in.

[Zetor]

Oh man, is this now the "how I found jesusf13" thread? I'm also a longtime ltm lurker -- found it in 99/2000 or so when I was searching for UO info. I don't remember what the actual article was, but I do remember that there was an animgif of some chick with big boobs from a fighting game at the bottom. Checked back from time to time for amusement (Lumcorp, Dawn, WW2OL, that crazy flash app Lum made with AYB in it) and to keep up with the implosions/drama leading to snd, p2p, waterthread and f13/corp. Good times and whatnot.

[tar]

Ohh yes, snd. I'd forgotten about that one. I read but never posted at Lum's (being an AC player), then it was snd/p2p/waterthread. Haven't the faintest clue any more what brought me to Lum's place but I do remember the waterthread!

[Azazel]

For Arthur's question earlier, I for one would be positive towards seeing some new people posting here. Ifthe community becomes static, as we pretty much are now, natural attrition (and rare bannings) will continue to deplete the regular posters.

FWIW, my main minis wargaming forums are still packed to the gills.

[Arthur_Parker]

Well I think schild made his position very clear, I was more interested in the subject rather than trying to influence or rock the boat.

[Azazel]

/shrug. You asked what people think. I replied. attrition will continue to knock out the regulars here one at a time.

[Ironwood]

 

[Der Helm]

I came here looking for people to talk to about flight simulators.

Still looking. One of these days, one of you is going to come out to me.

They still make those ? And there are people playing them ?

Last time I fired up a flight simulatior might have been Eurofighter Typhoon or something like that. I think flight sims are what brought me to pc gaming in the first place.

And I think I google search brought me to waterthread. A few weeks later my link brought me to f13.net .

edit: Wow. EF Typhoon was released in 2001 ? Now I feel old. 

[tgr]

There aren't to tons of flightsims being made, but there are a few still making them, and some of them even have something approaching realism.

Unlike driving games.

[UnSub]

I joined up at Waterthread.org at some point before the switch to F13.net. I probably joined after laughing at numerous posts mocking devs for their poor design decisions.

A decade or so on and posts are still being made mocking exactly the same poor design decisions. I laugh, but the laugh has a sharper edge to it.

[schild]

I don't even laugh anymore. I just want them all to quit being hired, over and over again.

[Miasma]

I can't remember what first lead me to Waterthread, but I'm sure it was dark and twisted and not of this world.

Thats ones easy for me. Haemish posted a series on the maturity of the modern MMOG. Most of which as one was reading was easy to see would never happen. Still damn fine writing though.

I found f13 following a link to that you made on our old guild's forums.

[Rishathra]

Someone I don't remember linked a post from here in response to something on the SWG forums.  I remember none of the details.  Only that it was funny and snarky and that I enjoy those qualities.  So I started lurking here instead.  I have no fucking clue what a 'Lum Diaspora' is.  Did a bunch of people flee from Lum, or to Rum?  I'm still not entirely sure.  Both?

[Arthur_Parker]

Like Hitler in a post-WWI Germany power vaccuum

It's like interviewing witnesses after a bad car accident, only 10 years later, the above is probably as close to accurate as, well, anything else I guess.

[HaemishM]

I can't remember what first lead me to Waterthread, but I'm sure it was dark and twisted and not of this world.

Thats ones easy for me. Haemish posted a series on the maturity of the modern MMOG. Most of which as one was reading was easy to see would never happen. Still damn fine writing though.

Thank you. I keep thinking I want to repost that series on my blog and reexamine it a decade on, like carrion scavenging through entrails. There actually have been some things that have happened out of that series. I remember seeing the music making part of APB and thinking "Someone's been reading my work... and screwing the pooch."

[Rasix]

This all makes me feel like some sort of moldy ancient. 

"Sit down young ones, and let me tell you the tale of when I was grief titled on LTM.  I went by a different name in those days and wandered the land of Sosaria.. "

[Arthur_Parker]

Thought this was interesting enough to repost (there's a lot of just plain crap over there).

Total number of forum-wide posts since 1/9

Quarter to Three: 2,724
BrokenForum: 3,004


Total number of game subforum posts since 1/10

Quarter to Three: 622
BrokenForum: 710


Total number of P&R posts since 1/10

Quarter to Three: 246
BrokenForum: 67


So BrokenForum is still getting more overall traffic, and more traffic in games, but considerably less in P&R.(that's their poltics forum)

Forum wars, the best wars, win win on the politics front.

[Ironwood]

This all makes me feel like some sort of moldy ancient. 

"Sit down young ones, and let me tell you the tale of when I was grief titled on LTM.  I went by a different name in those days and wandered the land of Sosaria.. "

Yeah.

[Mrbloodworth]

I came here looking for people to talk to about flight simulators.

http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/

[Der Helm]

I know I am easily amused, but I found this particular post amusing

[schild]

For the record, it wasn't for him being contrarian. In addition, the admins didn't "get together" on it. He was simply a waste of flesh that deserved to mingle among the likes of Hyu, Geldon, and Grunk.