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on: May 09, 2011, 05:40:36 PM

Didn't see a thread for this.

http://www.brinkthegame.com/

Brink unlocks on Steam for PC at 9PST.

FPS from Splash Damage, guys who did RTCW: Enemy Territory and ET: Quake Wars. Drop-in drop-out gameplay that is the same across singleplayer and gameplay (read: singleplayer is mp with bots, but with bookending story cutscenes and your friends and/or randoms can drop in to take over bot slots). There is basically a parkour button to climb around on stuff like a monkey.

Anyone else interested in this?

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Reply #1 on: May 09, 2011, 05:48:34 PM

Super psyched for this, personally.  I had it kind of in the back of my head for the last few months, didn't really keep up with it, then realized it was coming out soon a few days ago and have since been catching up with the hype train, so now I'm basically hopping up and down.  The art style looks interesting (stylized, but not cartoony), the gameplay looks fun.  I'm not quite sold on the whole "blending single player with multiplayer" idea, but we'll see how that goes.  But yeah, set my alarm early to play it tomorrow morning.
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Reply #2 on: May 09, 2011, 05:51:43 PM

I'm cautiously interested in this, but I don't plan on buying until I see some really rockin' reviews.  I want to like it, and I like the dev team, but it seems a little gimmicky.  The small team sizes also leaves me underwhelmed.  Basically the question for me is: Why would I play this instead of the BC2 and Black Ops, both of which I already own.

It strikes me as a game that fills a niche that is already filled for me from multiple angles, so its going to have to offer something very unique to push me over the edge to actually buying it.
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Reply #3 on: May 09, 2011, 09:18:13 PM

I have it. Decrypting now.
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Reply #4 on: May 09, 2011, 09:29:22 PM

I eagerly wait for reports on how infested with consolitis, and 'is it more fun than X'

It's hard to drop $50 on a game with commercials as bad as the Brink ones.
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Reply #5 on: May 09, 2011, 10:23:21 PM

I Refuse to buy a game that treats multiplayer like anything other than the darwinistic sharkpit it is.

If you suck at twitch shooters, find another role or find a slower game. This one will hold your hand in MP and tell you it's ok that you can't one-shot the slow guys, because hey, nobody can.

Also, lol, "we decided we only wanted to dedicate the resources to making male toons because boobies are hard".

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Reply #6 on: May 09, 2011, 10:40:37 PM

It looks kind of interesting, but I'm very wary of MP-focused games since they have to compete with the heavyweights like CoD and BF to have a decent community 3 months after the game comes out. Especially since I'm a tightarse and tend not to buy almost anything until 3-6 months after release these days, since I already have a bit enough backlog... I tried to see what the Wolfenstein MP was like on 360 last night, and found NONE games running... the PSN thing is going to fuck these guys hard.

Also, it'd need a compelling reason for me to play it as a MP game over Battlefield with any kind of regularity. And I haven't found anything that can do that since 1942's Wake Island demo came out. Except for when my friends and I were hardcore into WoW's PvP.


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Reply #7 on: May 10, 2011, 03:13:48 AM

I have this preordered, but it doesn't unlock here because it takes 4 days for bits to cross the Atlantic. It's set to be the summer's big office lunchtime FPS; BFBC2 held that crown for 5 months last spring, we'll see how much staying power Brink has.
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Reply #8 on: May 10, 2011, 05:25:13 AM

It looks kind of interesting, but I'm very wary of MP-focused games since they have to compete with the heavyweights like CoD and BF to have a decent community 3 months after the game comes out. Especially since I'm a tightarse and tend not to buy almost anything until 3-6 months after release these days, since I already have a bit enough backlog... I tried to see what the Wolfenstein MP was like on 360 last night, and found NONE games running... the PSN thing is going to fuck these guys hard.

Also, it'd need a compelling reason for me to play it as a MP game over Battlefield with any kind of regularity. And I haven't found anything that can do that since 1942's Wake Island demo came out. Except for when my friends and I were hardcore into WoW's PvP.



Definitely.  I think if Brink has anything that is unique or neat, its not the multiplayer by itself, but that your character is persistent through single player, co op missions, and multiplayer.  I think that is a neat idea, but not neat enough to warrant a release date buy.  I'm they release a demo or something.
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Reply #9 on: May 10, 2011, 08:33:05 AM

From what I've been reading, the game has tiny maps, poorly executed objectives and the SMART system is clunky and unwieldy. Further, due to awful map design there are few chances to even take full advantage of the crappy all purpose button.

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Reply #10 on: May 10, 2011, 08:41:37 AM

It looks kind of interesting, but I'm very wary of MP-focused games since they have to compete with the heavyweights like CoD and BF to have a decent community 3 months after the game comes out. Especially since I'm a tightarse and tend not to buy almost anything until 3-6 months after release these days, since I already have a bit enough backlog... I tried to see what the Wolfenstein MP was like on 360 last night, and found NONE games running... the PSN thing is going to fuck these guys hard.

Also, it'd need a compelling reason for me to play it as a MP game over Battlefield with any kind of regularity. And I haven't found anything that can do that since 1942's Wake Island demo came out. Except for when my friends and I were hardcore into WoW's PvP.



Definitely.  I think if Brink has anything that is unique or neat, its not the multiplayer by itself, but that your character is persistent through single player, co op missions, and multiplayer.  I think that is a neat idea, but not neat enough to warrant a release date buy.  I'm they release a demo or something.

I am a little disappointed with the "campaign" so far. Its basically just a multiplayer map played with bots on your team, and vs other bots. The coop game is just you and friends vs bots, and the multiplayer is just the same missions again, with real players on both sides. So its not like its a hugh stretch for your character to exist across all 3.
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Reply #11 on: May 10, 2011, 08:42:47 AM

I've seen some pretty harsh reviews so far.
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Reply #12 on: May 10, 2011, 09:01:34 AM

Oh yeah, I just wanted to add that I have played the first mission of the Security and the first mission of the Revolution, and for all that the game goes out of its way to tell you there are 2 different campaigns to play through, so far it was just playing the same match from different sides.
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Reply #13 on: May 10, 2011, 09:18:39 AM

That's disappointing, I loved me some ET: Quake Wars.

However, its Splash damage, why are you looking for story?
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Reply #14 on: May 10, 2011, 09:27:58 AM

Reviewers do not seem to like this game

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Reply #15 on: May 10, 2011, 09:29:04 AM

However, its Splash damage, why are you looking for story?

Because it's a feature they touted. If it was multiplayer centric; they should have stated that, not "Drop in and out of singleplayer/multiplayer easily!"
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Reply #16 on: May 10, 2011, 09:36:28 AM

I like it, but it IS crashy as fuck for me (woo ATI driver crashes)

The maps are small ish, and cluttered. Whoever learns the dozens of paths around the strange layouts will have a decided advantage.

And I don't get the "takes forever to kill someone" complaints. An SMG sidearm can kill two people in a clip. Is the barrier for "normal kill speed" one round to the head with any weapon in an FPS now?
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Reply #17 on: May 10, 2011, 09:40:45 AM

However, its Splash damage, why are you looking for story?

Because it's a feature they touted. If it was multiplayer centric; they should have stated that, not "Drop in and out of singleplayer/multiplayer easily!"

I mean sure, but its splash damage, this would be the first game that ever had any by them.

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Reply #18 on: May 10, 2011, 09:49:30 AM

However, its Splash damage, why are you looking for story?

Because it's a feature they touted. If it was multiplayer centric; they should have stated that, not "Drop in and out of singleplayer/multiplayer easily!"

I mean sure, but its splash damage, this would be the first game that ever had any by them.

Yeah, but you can't expect everyone to know that.

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I like it, but it IS crashy as fuck for me (woo ATI driver crashes)

ATI released a driver update that specifically mentions stabilization fixes for this game. Give that a shot.
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Reply #19 on: May 10, 2011, 10:11:49 AM


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Reply #20 on: May 10, 2011, 10:17:31 AM

However, its Splash damage, why are you looking for story?

Because it's a feature they touted. If it was multiplayer centric; they should have stated that, not "Drop in and out of singleplayer/multiplayer easily!"

Thats actually *exactly* how I heard it marketed.
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Reply #21 on: May 10, 2011, 10:29:03 AM

I read this in the comments of I think metacritic:

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I am giving Brink an 8.5 which I had to round so I figured I would round DOWN, to an 8 to be a little more realistic. First of all let me say, this is not your typical FPS game, if you try to play Brink like you play Halo/COD/Battlefield/Etc this game will punish you beyond words. I personally believe a lot of the negative reviews have to do with two things, #1 a supposed string of bad code(That I didn't notice in my copy that causes awful lag/slowdown/graphical distortion/etc.) and #2 You can not go into Brink with the FPS mindset of old.... If you listened to any of the developer videos they said over and over, they key to Brink is to MOVE, more than you SHOOT. I had to constantly remind myself of this as I was playing the challenges with a friend online (Which ran pretty flawlessly for us...)
I found myself annoyed at first, then I found myself understanding this wasn't typical FPS fanfare, then adapting and enjoying the HELL out of this game. I believe people will have a hard time letting go of the comfort of traditional FPS, and that is fine with me, keep playing Halo/COD and the other dime a dozen FPS games out there, leave Brink to the people who appreciate something different.
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Reply #22 on: May 10, 2011, 10:38:36 AM

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I am giving Brink an 8.5 which I had to round so I figured I would round DOWN, to an 8 to be a little more realistic. First of all let me say, this is not your typical FPS game, if you try to play Brink like you play Halo/COD/Battlefield/Etc this game will punish you beyond words. I personally believe a lot of the negative reviews have to do with two things, #1 a supposed string of bad code(That I didn't notice in my copy that causes awful lag/slowdown/graphical distortion/etc.) and #2 You can not go into Brink with the FPS mindset of old.... If you listened to any of the developer videos they said over and over, they key to Brink is to MOVE, more than you SHOOT. I had to constantly remind myself of this as I was playing the challenges with a friend online (Which ran pretty flawlessly for us...)
I found myself annoyed at first, then I found myself understanding this wasn't typical FPS fanfare, then adapting and enjoying the HELL out of this game. I believe people will have a hard time letting go of the comfort of traditional FPS, and that is fine with me, keep playing Halo/COD and the other dime a dozen FPS games out there, leave Brink to the people who appreciate something different.

I have no words to describe how retarded this comment is.
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Reply #23 on: May 10, 2011, 11:18:03 AM

Sounds like the biggest flop in a long time. All that time trying to make the game unique, and it ends up being the most generic thing ever.
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Reply #24 on: May 10, 2011, 11:51:30 AM

I think I need more time with the game to get a accurate idea. I was having fun playing it last night. I didn't even really know I wasn't supposed to like the game until all the reviewers told me this morning. I had a few annoyances yeah, but I didn't feel like I was playing a "flop" at all.
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Reply #25 on: May 10, 2011, 11:53:43 AM

"flop"

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

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Reply #26 on: May 10, 2011, 12:04:19 PM

Most reviews read to me like they were expecting some long involved storyline single player. Then got disappointed its more multi-player focused, and downright confused at the seamless movement between modes.

Looking at videos and whatnot, I bet I would like this game with its more team based focus and RPGlite advancement. Customization seems off the hook. Looking at the map, its clear they plan on adding more "maps" to the ARK world map.

Of course I have no direct experience, I suspect the gun play is akin to Quakewars.
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Reply #27 on: May 10, 2011, 12:10:30 PM

"flop"

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

I think thats the only time I used it, and it was in response to the poster above me.

*edit. I know thats a quote, but still. I know exactly what the word means. I don't see how I used it incorrectly.
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Reply #28 on: May 10, 2011, 12:17:31 PM

I meant flop as in "why would anyone be compelled to buy this".
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Reply #29 on: May 10, 2011, 12:24:11 PM

I meant flop as in "why would anyone be compelled to buy this".

If this is the worst game you've seen, I want to know what you've been playing.

I dunno, personally, I'm having fun with it.
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Reply #30 on: May 10, 2011, 12:49:13 PM

I didn't say it was the worst, just lacking anything that would make one want to buy it. I for one thought it was going to be about parkour and traversing the big ass futuristic island city. That would've been hella cool. What we got is not.
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Reply #31 on: May 10, 2011, 12:57:27 PM

Brink essentially plays like a less funny and smaller scale TF2.

What I'd like to see out of brink is some of it's concepts moved to games that need them. The objective wheel? That would be AWESOME in a battlefield series game. In brink, the maps are small and fast enough that there's very little time to use it effectively. The smart button is actually a pretty solid idea as well, it gives better freedom of movement without having to memorize jumps and what walls you can scale to get to silly places in an FPS.

But overall, the gameplay reminds me of a TF2 type game with a lot of side objectives.
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Reply #32 on: May 10, 2011, 04:25:53 PM

However, its Splash damage, why are you looking for story?

Because it's a feature they touted. If it was multiplayer centric; they should have stated that, not "Drop in and out of singleplayer/multiplayer easily!"

I mean sure, but its splash damage, this would be the first game that ever had any by them.

Sure, but Bad Company 2 was the first DICE-made Battlefield game that had a singleplayer story after 4 core games and 7 expansion packs. If SD say there's a story and tout it as a feature, you kind of expect one. I'm not sure why you're arguing this point?

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Reply #33 on: May 10, 2011, 04:27:17 PM

I read this in the comments of I think metacritic:

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I am giving Brink an 8.5 which I had to round so I figured I would round DOWN, to an 8 to be a little more realistic. First of all let me say, this is not your typical FPS game, if you try to play Brink like you play Halo/COD/Battlefield/Etc this game will punish you beyond words. I personally believe a lot of the negative reviews have to do with two things, #1 a supposed string of bad code(That I didn't notice in my copy that causes awful lag/slowdown/graphical distortion/etc.) and #2 You can not go into Brink with the FPS mindset of old.... If you listened to any of the developer videos they said over and over, they key to Brink is to MOVE, more than you SHOOT. I had to constantly remind myself of this as I was playing the challenges with a friend online (Which ran pretty flawlessly for us...)
I found myself annoyed at first, then I found myself understanding this wasn't typical FPS fanfare, then adapting and enjoying the HELL out of this game. I believe people will have a hard time letting go of the comfort of traditional FPS, and that is fine with me, keep playing Halo/COD and the other dime a dozen FPS games out there, leave Brink to the people who appreciate something different.


OK. SO move > shoot. In a shooter. Check.

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Reply #34 on: May 10, 2011, 05:34:23 PM

Who actually has the PC version by the way?

All the reviews are absolutely rubbish in terms of giving any info so far.   They keep talking about the stupid crap like switching from single player to multiplayer.   Do I care if that feature is a let down when single player sucks? HELL NO.

I really only care that it's a good shooter with some parkour shit.  Good shooter = CoD4, TF2 with real guns, etc.  So far I've heard that maybe the aim is imprecise and maybe the guns take too long to kill people.   I've heard nothing from anyone reliable though.  Problem is all the people I know who are good at FPS's are waiting to hear if this is good before they buy it Ohhhhh, I see..
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