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schild
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Correct.
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satael
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Realms of Arkania was just released on steam as a total pile of crap that has pretty much everything broken or unfinished (guess it's my own fault for thinking they'd manage to do a graphically updated version of the old game and not totally muck the release)
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Fabricated
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Please don't ever quote Ken Buchera pieces like they're insightful or informative or well written thanks. Also I could give a shit if a 1000 people threaten me over the internet because so far how many devs have gotten home invaded, shot, stabbed, or had a fucking pie thrown at them after they said a dumb thing and got twitter hate? Zero? I'm pretty willing to bet zero.
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"The world is populated in the main by people who should not exist." - George Bernard Shaw
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Falconeer
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I don't know if any game has been canceled because of threats, but if that were ever the case I think it should be respected.
A threat is a threat. It's bad for everyone, except eventually you Fabricated, but if you have any kind of anxiety disorder it can cripple your life no matter how real it is. I don't like this Fish guy one bit, but threats are just disgusting and no one should question how the victim of it chooses to cope.
In fact, the point of a threat is seldom to physically harm someone, it is to inflict psychological harm and emotional distress.
Do not blame victims of violence and cowardice.
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Fabricated
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I'm not victim blaming; I'm just saying that if you're going to be made neurotic by twitter threats or assholes on the internet in general you're going to have a very miserable life if you have any contact with the public at large.
Maybe it's just because I grew up with this shit. I've had idiots threatening to kill me online since I started playing counterstrike and TFC. Hell, I got a death threat or two over the phone every month when I worked for my county government as a record keeper when I'd have to dig up divorce decrees for disturbed individuals. You kinda get over it.
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Ingmar
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I think there's a really good chance that this is some kind of stunt in any case. Note the Andy Kaufman twitter avatar.
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schild
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It's a shitty stunt when the guy performing it is sort of a shitheel bitch and there's ample video of him behaving like a shitheel bitch.
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Ingmar
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Shitheel bitches often see themselves in Kaufman.
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schild
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I feel like someone should inform them that's not how it works.
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Fabricated
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If Fish wants to do the equivalent of wrestling women and being a heel in the Video Game industry he has a lot to learn, because there are a lot of people better at it than him.
Also seriously someone tell Cliffy B to fuck off of the internet and never speak again.
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schild
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Cliffy B is still alive?
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Kail
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I'm not victim blaming; I'm just saying that if you're going to be made neurotic by twitter threats or assholes on the internet in general you're going to have a very miserable life if you have any contact with the public at large.
I don't know about that, people over the internet - especially in the gaming sphere - act like raving jackholes in a way that doesn't happen in real life often. You can't go up to your secretary, call her an ugly cunt, say you're going to rape her daughter and that you hope she dies, and then go back to your office without expecting some serious talks with HR in your immediate future. I don't think it's unreasonable to not want to be insulted and I can certainly empathize with someone who just decided to not deal with that level of shit. Yes, there are some jobs where you have to deal with complete dickbags in which this kind of environment is normal, and yes, if you can't take the occasional jab without breaking down you're probably going to have trouble dealing with people. But I don't think it follows that it's normal or excusable to act like that, or that normal people should be expected to just put up with it. (I suppose this is less in line with the whole Fish thing, which I think has a history I don't know much about, and more to do with the general atmosphere of WTF that's been sloshed in to the same bucket in a lot of news stories and podcasts, like the CoD patch notes that resulted in the community rep getting death threats for making balance changes)
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Paelos
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I'm not victim blaming; I'm just saying that if you're going to be made neurotic by twitter threats or assholes on the internet in general you're going to have a very miserable life if you have any contact with the public at large.
Or, you know, just not have a Twitter account. I honestly don't see why that's not an option for these jackholes instead of just cancelling the game. How often do you have to deal with the raving nutjobs if you aren't on twitter or forums?
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Ingmar
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Social media is, generally speaking, a net marketing plus, even with the troll population.
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KallDrexx
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It's posted on the Polytron website so unless it's an elaborate hoax it's true. I'm not too sad about it, although I seem to be the only one that didn't find Fez that amazing (though it could be indie platformer fatigue).
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Paelos
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Social media is, generally speaking, a net marketing plus, even with the troll population.
Based on what exactly? How is the head of the company being on Twitter do anything but open you up for the scenario we see here, or them saying something even dumber off the cuff and damaging the brand?
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Ingmar
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This is a bit of a special case, because he's Phil Fish and odds are he's trolling everyone to start with. A counter-example would be how much goodwill Mark Rosewater's blog and twitter account generate for Magic. When done right it's a big enough positive that almost everyone will try to do it.
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HaemishM
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Social media is, generally speaking, a net marketing plus, even with the troll population.
This. You can't be an indie without a social presence and it is a HUGE audience builder for someone who is never going to get an audience otherwise.
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Margalis
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I don't know about that, people over the internet - especially in the gaming sphere - act like raving jackholes in a way that doesn't happen in real life often. You can't go up to your secretary, call her an ugly cunt, say you're going to rape her daughter and that you hope she dies, and then go back to your office without expecting some serious talks with HR in your immediate future. I don't think it's unreasonable to not want to be insulted and I can certainly empathize with someone who just decided to not deal with that level of shit.
Internet hate is easy to propagate but also easy to ignore. Look, if you are in any way a public figure someone somewhere is going to say a mean thing about you. Using that as an excuse to quit, to claim that there is some sort of war against "creatives" (is this war more or less hard fought than the war against Christmas?) or whatever the fuck is pathetic and lazy. Ben Kuchera is an asshole and a bully. Phil Fish is an asshole and a bully. These are two of the last guys who should be complaining about mean people. "Asshole's feelings hurt by other assholes." Who cares? Ben Kuchera went on a Twitter tirade a while back about how someone should become broke and penniless for writing an article an emulation. Now I'm supposed to feel sorry for him and his friends? That's not to say assholes making threats are in the right, but at the end of the day I find it hard to care, especially when the people complaining about them are doing the same things themselves. "Phil Fish upset other people on internet acting like Phil Fish."
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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I just want to say I fully support Fab's pie-throwing mafia initiative.
Should probably also pack a squirting flower just to be safe.
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Margalis
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Stardock is pleased to announce that it has secured Atari's rights to the classic franchise, Star Control with the intent to develop a new Star Control game. Development on the new game would begin this Fall with a release date to be determined later.
"We would be looking at Star Control 2 as a major source of inspiration," said Brad Wardell, President & CEO of Stardock.
Welp. Edit: Oh, I guess this happened in late July.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Kail
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Star Control... Brad Wardell, President & CEO of Stardock.
SOME *CAMPERS* ARE NOT SO GOOD FOR *GAMES*
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ezrast
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Whoa, that is out of left field. I was under the impression that the rights to Star Control were, like, irretrievably fragmented between multiple defunct companies. Atari's just been sitting on them? I guess it's a cult-y enough classic that there isn't a ton of marketing value to be gained there but it's still strange that that corpse has gone relatively unhumped until now.
I should get around to finishing SC2.
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Ingmar
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There's a bunch of stuff they don't have control over still I believe - I'm pretty sure that the only thing Stardock actually bought was the name and maybe the new stuff from SC 3.
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All they need is the name. What other value is there?
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I have never played WoW.
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Fabricated
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"The world is populated in the main by people who should not exist." - George Bernard Shaw
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Reg
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So why do people hate her? Does she write legitimately awful stories destroying beloved characters or is this just an over-reaction from the Tali Sweat Gang?
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This xbox thingy where they give you 2 games free every month is getting good. I just got Dead Rising 2 and that thingy what goes with it, which I have but haven't played on the PC. I'd probably like it better on the xbox anyway. Last time I got Crackdown, dunno what that is yet and before that, Assassin's Creed 2 - which I have for PC and hardly played too. I noticed, however, that there's all these Dungeon and Dragon games that I've never heard of... what are they? Like little campaigns from the olden days? Or are they full sized rpg games? Maybe this is why I like the 360 so much. The first and sixteenth of every month is like xmas. They've also announced Diablo 3 for the xbox. I don't know if it's ready or not. I do know how much everyone loved it. :p Including me... I think I played it for several hours before giving it away. I don't think I'll be buying that one for the 360!
I'm so glad everyone here using the name 360. I keep forgetting which letter gets capitalised.
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Margalis
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The Capcom D&D games are old arcade games, basically fantasy versions of Final Fight.
There are also some vaguely Diablo-style D&D games on XBLA I think. Not sure if those are actually D&D games officially or not.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Paelos
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The US government really needs to get off their asses about this stuff. There needs to be serious repercussions to people who make death threats on the internet, in any form.
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Trippy
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All they need is the name. What other value is there?
The races and the ships.
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Stormwaltz
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The death threats were not a factor in her decision to leave. She's emailed Metro with a correction.
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schild
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A writer everyone hates quit their job to write.
I uh, what?
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Ginaz
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The US government really needs to get off their asses about this stuff. There needs to be serious repercussions to people who make death threats on the internet, in any form. Threats of any kind should be harshly dealt with by the law. General douchbaggery should not, though some countries (like the UK) are prosecuting people for being dicks online.
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