Malakili
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I like Runic and Torchlight way too much to forget about it. Combine it with the fact that D3 beta and some of the lag I've experienced has made me very wary of playing Hardcore mode in D3 (i'll still try it, but I'm nervous about it) and Torchlight is at the very least going to serve a purpose as an offline HC ARPG for me.
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Ironwood
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My objection is slightly different here. I think d3 might just dissapoint a lot of people long term.
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Ratman_tf
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I'm putting my money on T2 being the better game, but D3 getting much more sales. Y'know, Blizzard.
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murdoc
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No matter when Torchlight releases I'll be picking it up. I had too much fun with the first one and I just kinda dig what these guys are doing and how they go about it.
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Sand
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No matter when Torchlight releases I'll be picking it up. I had too much fun with the first one and I just kinda dig what these guys are doing and how they go about it.
See, I didnt really like the first one and the only reason the second one was interesting to me is the multi-player aspect that would have fed my need for all things Diablo. But if D3 comes out first problem solved. |
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Azazel
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I'm half with Sand here. Torchlight was pretty and all, but I think I only got a few levels down that first mine before losing interest. These games are all about the MP for me, and TL1 didn't have any. If TL2 does have LAN play as they've stated before, I'll get it, but realistically, it'll be a steam-sale-4-pack somewhere down the line.
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Delayed again, now it's a 2012 release. http://www.pcworld.com/article/244242/hey_torchlight_ii_take_your_time_well_wait_for_you.htmlTotal time for Torchlight II's development to date: 18 months. Total time remaining? Baldree doesn't say, but he does claim "the amount of time we need to take it the rest of the way is relatively small."
"Besides," he says, "you're all playing Skyrim right now anyway, aren't you? Or Battlefield 3? Or Uncharted 3? Or Saints Row 3? Or Arkham City? Or Skyward Sword? Or Minecraft? Or Modern Warfare 3? Or Dark Souls? Or Assassin's Creed Revelations? Those are awesome games. When Torchlight 2 goes live, we want it to be awesome too - all the way through." I'm no sales genius here but literally telling people to go play other stuff isn't a great strategy even if it's honest. |
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Malakili
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I'm no sales genius here but literally telling people to go play other stuff isn't a great strategy even if it's honest.
Not to mention none of those games he mentioned seem to be in direct competition with TL2, while the obvious D3 will be in a few months. I think Runic thinks they have a solid enough fan base and good enough reputation that people will buy their game regardless of when it comes out. I think they are probably right, but D3 is going to cut into their sales in some way, its impossible for it not to. |
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Amaron
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I'm no sales genius here but literally telling people to go play other stuff isn't a great strategy even if it's honest.
Peanut Butter and Jelly. The games he listed aren't going to be the competition if T2 is coming out some time after D3. |
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ajax34i
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Also, we're doing it anyway (playing those games), whether they tell us or not. So it's more of a "remember to come back, y'hear?" than a "go away."
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Ironwood
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Yeah, I'm not sure you can classify this as 'Go Play Other Stuff'. It's just about knowing your customers. The people who would play Torchlight aren't people who have 1 purchase and that's it.
Nor are they catering to the Granny crowd who wonder what to buy little Timmy.
They can't compete in that sphere, so they're not trying and come off as 'cool' on one of the weaknesses they have. It's a good play, actually.
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Nonentity
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But that Captain's salami tray was tight, yo. You plump for the roast pork loin, dogg?
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Ratman_tf
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I think that would have been better without the narration. |
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Kitsune
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I think that would have been better without the narration. I think that would have been better with a GOD DAMNED RELEASE DATE. Those fuckers have hit five months past the initial release date at this point. |
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Bunk
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That didn't do a whole lot for me. Kept waiting for Samurai Jack to show up and save the day.
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Paelos
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I think that would have been better without the narration. I think that would have been better with a GOD DAMNED RELEASE DATE. Those fuckers have hit five months past the initial release date at this point. Christmas |
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Kageru
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The first torchlight was so boring. There was no fun experimenting with different builds and finding the gear to support it or responding to differences in the mobs. So it seemed like endless attack (or alt-attack) for drops that generally sucked. I liked the spirit of the creators and wanted to like it, but no luck.
Hm, this looks to be the same. The skill tree with no dependencies, lots of variant attacks and passives so you'll pick the most OP, max it, and basically use that a couple of thousand times.
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Thrawn
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The first torchlight was so boring.
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murdoc
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On THAT note - Torchlight II is up for preorder on Steam. Release date of 'Summer 2012'.
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Well, at least that's sort of like announcing a date.
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Hmmm, summer is an odd choice.
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Malakili
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Man, I'm a huge Torchlight fan and I like Runic, but even I am going to wait for a steam sale when release is this close to Diablo 3.
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murdoc
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Man, I'm a huge Torchlight fan and I like Runic, but even I am going to wait for a steam sale when release is this close to Diablo 3.
It's $20!? 4-Pack makes it $15. |
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Malakili
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Man, I'm a huge Torchlight fan and I like Runic, but even I am going to wait for a steam sale when release is this close to Diablo 3.
It's $20!? 4-Pack makes it $15. Why pay full price for it if I know I'm not going to get around to playing it for 4-6 months anyway? |
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Man, I'm a huge Torchlight fan and I like Runic, but even I am going to wait for a steam sale when release is this close to Diablo 3.
It's $20!? 4-Pack makes it $15. Why pay full price for it if I know I'm not going to get around to playing it for 4-6 months anyway? Buy it for the inevitable Battle.net outages. |
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Man, I'm a huge Torchlight fan and I like Runic, but even I am going to wait for a steam sale when release is this close to Diablo 3.
It's $20!? 4-Pack makes it $15. I think I'll be waiting for the 4-pack for $15. Or $20 even. |
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NiX
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Hmmm, summer is an odd choice.
I'd imagine they would release around end of July or some time in August. Give people time to get over Diablo 3, see how they react to everything post Act 1. |
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Furiously
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Hmmm, summer is an odd choice.
I'd imagine they would release around end of July or some time in August. Give people time to get over Diablo 3, see how they react to everything post Act 1. I would delay until christmas. Unless I was confident it was a better d3. |
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I would've released it on the same day and again, collect that "BATTLE.NET IS DOWN" money.
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Xanthippe
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Why pay full price for it if I know I'm not going to get around to playing it for 4-6 months anyway?
Buy it for the inevitable Battle.net outages. Excellent idea. |
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Probably doesn't mean much, but when I pre-ordered the game on Steam one of the pages (either the one where I confirmed the purchase or the one showing the confirmation) said "July 2012".
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NiX
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Probably doesn't mean much, but when I pre-ordered the game on Steam one of the pages (either the one where I confirmed the purchase or the one showing the confirmation) said "July 2012".
I'm almost certain there's some weird setup in Steam where they have to give a title a date, which is why there have been some accidental releases in the past. |
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Dren
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I go to the Torchlight II page on Steam and all they seem to say is that they heard from their customers that the only thing missing is multiplayer. Everything else was just fine. So, I got the impression Torch II will be more of Torch I, but with multiplayer capability.
Looks like I'll buy this on a future Steam sale again like before.
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Hawkbit
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I know, those skeeving bastards charging an ENTIRE $20. Who the fuck is going to buy this piece of shit game at full price?
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NiX
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I know, those skeeving bastards charging an ENTIRE $20. Who the fuck is going to buy this piece of shit game at full price?
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