Arche Age

[WayAbvPar]

Did you report them? You get like 4x the labor back for reporting bots when they get banned.

[Rendakor]

So I just found out something that, if true, kinda kills the game for me (hoping Falc can come in here and tell me I'm wrong). When crafting high level gear (starting at 44), you make Sealed gear which is unidentified by default. When you ID/open a piece you get one of several sets of gear at random, each having different stats (Str/Int, Sta/Int, Str/Sta, etc.). The catch is that only one of those sets can be used to make the next tier of gear; if you get one of the others, you have to melt down 3 of them. With the level 44 gear, melting down 3 turns directly into the correct set; for the level 50 gear all melting down does is give you another random set piece. There are 3 tiers of level 50 gear, with another tier coming with Auroria, and I just...don't know if I can handle this level of fucking grind. You'd have to make hundreds of copies (each piece from the level 20 version all the way up) in order to actually get a set of the final tier. This is before even getting into the standard KMMO nonsense that is Regrading.

Please, someone tell me there's a trick I'm not seeing here.

[Falconeer]

There is no trick. Crafting high level gear is a nightmare and purely random.

Tonight I crafted my first piece of Magnificent (which is the tier that needed that 1 in 4 roll) Leathr armor and I instantly sold it for 670 gold. The point is, when you make it, you are going to be rich and it feels so freakin amazing. But it's random, it's hard, it's rare and it's infuriating. 

So yeah, I am sorry, no good news here at all.   

[palmer_eldritch]

I don't even mind that you could get ganked or that you have to take a boat (either one you buy, craft or that someone else has). It's not the act that gets on my tits, it's not even bothering to warn the player this shit could happen. That's not handholding, that's just making sure you are aware and informed of the risks. I'm actually really digging the game (though the F2P restrictions are a bit chafing at times) but this is a sure way for the game to turn players who might otherwise enjoy the game right the fuck off.

I agree but note you can get a (horrible, slow) rowboat for free from a quest around level 15 or something.

[Rendakor]

There is no trick. Crafting high level gear is a nightmare and purely random.

Tonight I crafted my first piece of Magnificent (which is the tier that needed that 1 in 4 roll) Leathr armor and I instantly sold it for 670 gold. The point is, when you make it, you are going to be rich and it feels so freakin amazing. But it's random, it's hard, it's rare and it's infuriating. 

So yeah, I am sorry, no good news here at all.   

Ugh. Might ragequit over this, this shit is really stupid.

I made my first Magnificent just now, but it isn't the one that can be upgraded again. It's orange tier (Heroic?) so I might be able to sell it; there's an Arcane helm on our AH for 300g and Unique tassets for 400 so I doubt I'd get your 600+. It's not the right stats for me either (Str/Int, I'm a tank) but it has more defense than my dungeon drop. My guildie and I just found all this shit out today, and I might be done. Bleh.

[HaemishM]

I did have the rowboat, but again... had no idea you could use the rowboat on the open seas. That feels totally counter-intuitive to me.

[Falconeer]

There is no trick. Crafting high level gear is a nightmare and purely random.

Tonight I crafted my first piece of Magnificent (which is the tier that needed that 1 in 4 roll) Leathr armor and I instantly sold it for 670 gold. The point is, when you make it, you are going to be rich and it feels so freakin amazing. But it's random, it's hard, it's rare and it's infuriating.  

So yeah, I am sorry, no good news here at all.  

Ugh. Might ragequit over this, this shit is really stupid.

I made my first Magnificent just now, but it isn't the one that can be upgraded again. It's orange tier (Heroic?) so I might be able to sell it; there's an Arcane helm on our AH for 300g and Unique tassets for 400 so I doubt I'd get your 600+. It's not the right stats for me either (Str/Int, I'm a tank) but it has more defense than my dungeon drop. My guildie and I just found all this shit out today, and I might be done. Bleh.

Magnificent, orange, crafted? Depending on the piece (head, chest, legs, etc...) it is certainly worth a huge lot of money (mostly because, as I am sure you've noticed, it costs us A LOT to make everything from Illustrious) and I sold mine low because I hate extreme speculation even in games. But anyway, 300 for a Unique is very very low and I'd doubt it's a Unique Crafted. Looted Uniques usually don't hold a candle to crafted. Or maybe your economy is just different from ours, I don't know :/


EDIT: Rowboating across continents: No. Just no. Unless you are very lucky, it's not gonna work. Especially with a pack on your back. Seabugs and especially jellyfish will destroy you, amd if for some reason they don't, players will. No, the oceaninc quest for the Scarecrow Farm is your introduction to group play. You need a lift from someone with a boat, and possibly an armed escort. Do not try it with a rowboat unless you feel like living an adventure that is almost certainly going to fail but would be epic if it succeded.

[Rendakor]

Yes, Magnificent Crafted. I searched Magnificent Sunset on the AH to get a feel for prices; are there non-crafted Magnificent Sunset pieces? The Unique was 400 (the 300 was a purple), so I didn't think 600+ would be viable for a similar slot. Selling it for 300 feels like a loss.

[Falconeer]

No, I was wondering if the Unique is crafted too. A unique looted can easily be worse than a magnificent crafted. But then again, you've seen them so you know better than me in this case. 300 is a loss epsecially with the 10% auction fee deduction.

[palmer_eldritch]

Yes, Magnificent Crafted. I searched Magnificent Sunset on the AH to get a feel for prices; are there non-crafted Magnificent Sunset pieces? The Unique was 400 (the 300 was a purple), so I didn't think 600+ would be viable for a similar slot. Selling it for 300 feels like a loss.

If you happen to be talking about plate armour, sunset is the rubbish armour that nobody wants because it is int/str and there's no character that actually wants int/str. I'm not sure if there's any such thing as leather or cloth sunset armour, but if so then the same is probably true for them as well.

By the way (in case anyone doesn't know) you can melt down unwanted armour pieces and combine them to create a new armour piece. Eg, if you get three sunsets, which are rubbish, you can melt them down to create one new item at a special forge in your capital city. Even so, it sucks if you are crafting and made sunset armour.

[Rendakor]

The Unique was a Magnificent Sunset Tassets, it was red. I'm not sure if there are non-crafted Mag Sunset stuff, but that's what it was.

Fakeedit: Yea I'm making plate armor and that's what my one Illustrious Quake rolled into.

[palmer_eldritch]

It must have been crafted.

The trouble is that magnificent sunset is a bit crap because it is sunset and people just won't pay top prices for it whatever the colour.

By the way, here is a handy hint: press the ? symbol on the top right of your inventory to call up a colourised list of item qualities.

[satael]

There is no trick. Crafting high level gear is a nightmare and purely random.

Tonight I crafted my first piece of Magnificent (which is the tier that needed that 1 in 4 roll) Leathr armor and I instantly sold it for 670 gold. The point is, when you make it, you are going to be rich and it feels so freakin amazing. But it's random, it's hard, it's rare and it's infuriating.  

So yeah, I am sorry, no good news here at all.  

Ugh. Might ragequit over this, this shit is really stupid.

I made my first Magnificent just now, but it isn't the one that can be upgraded again. It's orange tier (Heroic?) so I might be able to sell it; there's an Arcane helm on our AH for 300g and Unique tassets for 400 so I doubt I'd get your 600+. It's not the right stats for me either (Str/Int, I'm a tank) but it has more defense than my dungeon drop. My guildie and I just found all this shit out today, and I might be done. Bleh.

Magnificent, orange, crafted? Depending on the piece (head, chest, legs, etc...) it is certainly worth a huge lot of money (mostly because, as I am sure you've noticed, it costs us A LOT to make everything from Illustrious) and I sold mine low because I hate extreme speculation even in games. But anyway, 300 for a Unique is very very low and I'd doubt it's a Unique Crafted. Looted Uniques usually don't hold a candle to crafted. Or maybe your economy is just different from ours, I don't know :/


EDIT: Rowboating across continents: No. Just no. Unless you are very lucky, it's not gonna work. Especially with a pack on your back. Seabugs and especially jellyfish will destroy you, amd if for some reason they don't, players will. No, the oceaninc quest for the Scarecrow Farm is your introduction to group play. You need a lift from someone with a boat, and possibly an armed escort. Do not try it with a rowboat unless you feel like living an adventure that is almost certainly going to fail but would be epic if it succeded.

If you really want to do the quest and have no luck doing it the normal way you can always take the slow route and walk there...on the bottom of the ocean with the 45min potion for breathing underwater (dahuta or something) 

[Rendakor]

We got Haem's quest done yesterday, he's just QQing after the fact.

[satael]

Not sure if I should laugh or cry when I logged back in and the same 4 bots were (still) at the exactly same spot grinding the same mobs yesterday despite all the reports etc (and it's not like they are even trying to hide with their names being ubirjwl, xzfeshj, aklrahc, xrbdqnya) 

[WayAbvPar]

Go purple and murder them. Not a court in the land that would convict you.

[satael]

Go purple and murder them. Not a court in the land that would convict you.

Doesn't matter, they run right back to their spot after that and conviction depends on the jury (with bad luck and less-than-friendly guilds in the jury you can get convicted to max sentence)

[Lantyssa]

"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I submit to you that the defendants are in actuality NPCs which have gained some semblance of PC-protection.  The data corruption which allowed this can be seen with their scrambled names.  I was protecting the realm from their corruption by attempting to delete their existence."

[HaemishM]

We got Haem's quest done yesterday, he's just QQing after the fact.

Oh I was QQing during the quest too. 

[Mrbloodworth]

I did have the rowboat, but again... had no idea you could use the rowboat on the open seas. That feels totally counter-intuitive to me.

Hell, you don't even need to quest, you can just make one.

When I see an empty rowboat in the middle of a sea-bug patch. I look under the patch for trade packs. 

[Abelian75]

EDIT: Rowboating across continents: No. Just no. Unless you are very lucky, it's not gonna work. Especially with a pack on your back. Seabugs and especially jellyfish will destroy you, amd if for some reason they don't, players will. No, the oceaninc quest for the Scarecrow Farm is your introduction to group play. You need a lift from someone with a boat, and possibly an armed escort. Do not try it with a rowboat unless you feel like living an adventure that is almost certainly going to fail but would be epic if it succeded.

True story: I rowboated a pack to Freedich. This was also the first time I discovered Freedich.  I figured I might as well bring a pack, why not? 

Yeah, don't try that at home. I got lucky as fuck. (and I was 50, so the seabugs weren't a problem)

[Vaiti]

So I'm playing this now. I have no idea what I am doing.

Some dudes got 13-19 minutes of jailtime for killing some other dudes in some weird chat courtroom.

I'm not allowed to talk to anyone until I'm lvl 15, guessing as a counter measure to bots which I see all over the place. I also see no way or reporting them.

And some dude got 48 minutes of jailtime for stealing carrots from the forrest. This game is odd.

[Trippy]

I'm not allowed to talk to anyone until I'm lvl 15, guessing as a counter measure to bots which I see all over the place.

That sort of restriction is usually to slow down gold spammers (not that it helps much).

[Rendakor]

It helped a lot, honestly. Faction chat was unusable before that change, because it was just nonstop spam scrolling. Now you see spam occasionally, but most of the high level botters would rather keep botting than get their accounts deleted for spam.

People getting jail time are doing so for killing their own faction, or stealing from their own faction, etc.

[palmer_eldritch]

You've got to have some sort of penalty for stealing carrots after all. Otherwise it would just be anarchy.

[tmp]

So, seeing the new land patch was released and went without as much as a peep here, this one is about done?

Apparently lot of the new plots were grabbed instantly and large chunks of it by single people, so there's plenty of discontent, talk about bots and hacks and quitting on the official forums. In a way business as usual, but bit more intense

[HaemishM]

I'm still playing but I'm F2P so can't get arsed about land ownership and haven't even made it to level 40 yet much less high enough to go to the new continent. Guildchat has sure been quieter the last few days.

[Rendakor]

I ragequit along with Yasmir when we found out about the random crafting bullshit.

[satael]

The auroria launch was a horrible lagfest with hundreds and hundreds of players fighting for the materials needed to build a castle but it was probably the biggest event AA will ever have and so worth all the hassle and we (the guild I'm in) did manage to get a castle on the most populated server (which probably has alot to do with how I feel about it).
Other than that there isn't really much to look forward in AA at the moment (more hasla grind and a hard 10-man dungeon) 

[Falconeer]

I am still playing every night but oddly enough the Auroria launch could be the end of the ride for me and my friends: while we loved every bit of it so far (the usual two months), we were looking forward to open PvP, which we have done as much as possible since launch, and just realized that while Auroria allows you to attack enemies at all time, it doesn't have any point other than often-asymmetric skirmishing for the sake of it, no XP no Honor points, no nothing. The old zones, with their War Time rotation, are rarely populated enough and looks to me like everyone just farm honor points in arena. If I have to play arena I'd rather play Smite thanks.

So in short, so far seems that Auroria released a few things I don't care about (raid dungeon, more housing), and none I really care about. The new areas look nice but they don't seem to have a function. I can't even find quests there. It's weird.

I really enjoyed every second of Archeage, but I'd say that after 50 days of logging every single night I've done all the things I wanted to do and achieved all the things I wanted to achieve that were realistic without a big guild.

[HaemishM]

The leveling is starting to get to me. I want to get to the PVP but so far the only PVP I've had has either been getting ganked while leveling by a level 50 I have no hope of taking on by myself (which is annoying but isn't really even a speedbump) or the one war I was in the other night. That war, BTW, involved standing around with a screen full of complete strangers on the same side, blasting the shit out of NPC's while trying to dodge AOE's. The 2 enemy players we saw in the same zone during that time were killed so quickly I don't think I ever got a shot in. Seriously, is the point of "AT WAR!!!!" zones really just to do a DAoC style castle raid on the Keep Captain only without the whole castle part to at least make the fucking terrain interesting?

[Morfiend]

Massively had a not horrible rant about this. Lost Continent.

The combination of the Hasla grind and the horrible PVE to get to the meat of the game and all the hacking have really put me off. This should be Fantasy EVE, stop trying to add mmo grind to it.

[Kageru]

Massively had a not horrible rant about this. Lost Continent.

The combination of the Hasla grind and the horrible PVE to get to the meat of the game and all the hacking have really put me off. This should be Fantasy EVE, stop trying to add mmo grind to it.

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[Rendakor]

Massively had a not horrible rant about this. Lost Continent.

The combination of the Hasla grind and the horrible PVE to get to the meat of the game and all the hacking have really put me off. This should be Fantasy EVE, stop trying to add mmo grind to it.

The complaints you list are valid. The whining in the article about disconnections and begging for a rollback are just standard forum QQ though. If they did a rollback for the people who couldn't get on, it just fucks over those who didn't have problems.

[Morfiend]

Massively had a not horrible rant about this. Lost Continent.

The combination of the Hasla grind and the horrible PVE to get to the meat of the game and all the hacking have really put me off. This should be Fantasy EVE, stop trying to add mmo grind to it.

The complaints you list are valid. The whining in the article about disconnections and begging for a rollback are just standard forum QQ though. If they did a rollback for the people who couldn't get on, it just fucks over those who didn't have problems.

I dont disagree, but I can also see his point a bit. In a game that revolves so much around a limited resource (housing) they really did screw some people. But honestly, I was more referring to the other complaints he had which more closely matched mine.