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Reply #70 on: November 05, 2010, 05:35:07 PM

Solid start.  More please.

I also liked the utter lack of Adverts throughout.  I can only hope that's going to continue (though I'm sure it's not).

Why is it people are dumbasses when confronted with Zombies ?  Seriously, watch a fucking film or two.  Read a book.  Then don't charge into a fucking million of them with a handgun.

There's a book about a world of zombies called Feed where the survivors have all named their children George or Georgia, because George Romero is credited with saving the human race by teaching us how to fight zombies.
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Reply #71 on: November 07, 2010, 03:14:43 PM

Just watched the first episode now (yeah, I'm lagging behind). Liked it.

I hope the real zombie apocalypse gets here soon, so all the stuff I've learned about surviving such events doesn't go to waste. Examples:
  • Before the apocalypse actually starts, invest in a solar-power-driven car. It will save you having to go into seemingly abandoned, but in reality zombie-infested gas-stations which will turn out to be empty of any spare gas anyway.
  • Do not play loud music, it will attract zombies.
  • Do not have lights on at night, it will attract zombies.
  • Do not fire your gun(s) unless absolutely necessary for survival. It will attract zombies.
  • Do not accidentally bump into any cars. The alarm will go off, and it will attract a lot of zombies.
  • Do not step on broken glass with bare feet - wounds slow you down, can get infected (a different sort of infection) and then kill you.
  • Do not hesitate to shoot your zombie-friends and/or family in the head, preferably with a shotgun. They're no longer people, only broken husks. Hesitating at this point will only give them a chance to attack you first, after which you'll still have to shoot them.
  • Do not go to any safe shelters announced on the radio and/or written on walls in blood. The shelters seldom stay safe for long. More likely than not, the infection will get there before you do.
  • Keep an eye out for any other survivors who start showing symptoms of being infected. If you don't know the symptoms, assume anything out of the ordinary is a symptom and unless they can prove they're not infected, shoot them in the head with a shotgun.
  • There's always a single can of coke left in any given soda vending machine even if the rest of the supermarket has been cleaned out. The can is just stuck, and you'll have to work to get at it.
  • Killing zombies with a katana is pretty cool. Until you get scratched/bitten. Just stick with the guns and kill them at a distance.
  • Set fire to the tank, then avoid him until he is dead.

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Reply #72 on: November 07, 2010, 04:23:09 PM

Fleshed out the first couple of issues beautifully, and they've got some cast with actual acting chops; alive and dead. I'm loving the zombies. They're absolutely visually spot-on - straight off the pages with their lipless mouths and cold dead eyes - but the heart-wrenching pathos of watching them is oh so much more awful.
The existential dread of Rick's awaking into nightmare was really nicely shot and expertly paced, too. I've read the comics and even I was holding my breath during the stairwell in the dark sequence.

IF they can keep this up over the rest of the series, I think we'll be watching something very special indeed.

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Reply #73 on: November 07, 2010, 06:45:20 PM

Well, look at what the director did with Shawshank, I've never seen a more true to the source than that movie from the novel.

Hell, he even had Morgan Freeman answer the same way the Irishman in the book did.

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Reply #74 on: November 07, 2010, 07:59:05 PM

I'm impressed that when fleeing the zombie apocalypse,
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Reply #75 on: November 07, 2010, 08:13:13 PM

Man, you just know Michael Rooker is gonna be back with one hand sawed off or some shit, looking for revenge. If we're nitpicking, I'll suggest that 15 seconds worth of rain isn't going to have any real effect on the odor of someone covered in offal with HUMAN ENTRAILS LOOPED AROUND THEIR NECK. It could have rained bleach for a million years and I can't imagine it would make much difference.

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Reply #76 on: November 07, 2010, 08:36:50 PM

AMC is awesome
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Reply #77 on: November 07, 2010, 10:55:48 PM

Second episode did not disappoint. I was on the edge of my seat, nervous as hell through the whole thing. All of the characters feel like real people thanks to both the writing and the excellent acting. I avoided seeing scenes from next week just to keep the element of surprise. I particularly liked the part..

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Reply #78 on: November 07, 2010, 11:32:31 PM

Well, look at what the director did with Shawshank, I've never seen a more true to the source than that movie from the novel.

Hell, he even had Morgan Freeman answer the same way the Irishman in the book did.

He even improved on King's The Mist. How often is the movie better than the book/short story with genre flicks? I'd say Kubrick with 2001 & Arthur C. Clarke's The Sentinel, but that's about all I can think of. Maybe the Slaughterhouse Five movie, but both versions are great.

Darabont is one of the best.

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Reply #79 on: November 08, 2010, 02:24:46 AM

This episode deviated from the comic quite a bit, and from the looks of it so does the next episode.  Not complaining at all, as it makes it a bit more suspenseful for those of us who've read the books.  It also offers up some hope that maybe they'll be open to avoiding some of the less popular plot elements of the comics.
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Reply #80 on: November 08, 2010, 03:44:39 AM

First two have been excellent, I've read a lot of comics so I'm not scared of spoilers and I really like the look of episode 3 from the preview.
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Reply #81 on: November 09, 2010, 08:48:49 PM

I would rate AMC's general cinematography for most of their shows as superior to anything I encounter on HBO, with the exception of maybe Deadwood.
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Reply #82 on: November 10, 2010, 03:40:44 AM

Enjoying this a lot, I like the pacing. Hope they maintain those production values throughout.

"Coming next week" needs to fuck right off from TV shows, or at the very least be moved right to the end of the credits. I now hit the off button the *instant* credits start on most shows and I hate not watching end credits. Credits and title sequences serve as a transition from the real world to the world of the show or film and back again, and not having that is jarring and annoying.

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Reply #83 on: November 10, 2010, 03:56:34 AM

What fucking fantasy world do you live in ?

Over here, end credits serve for something to be minimised to the side while some fuckwit drones on about 'COMING UP NEXT ON THE PENIS CHANNEL'.  Doesn't matter HOW MUCH you wanna know who that lassie was, or how much you like the theme music at the end, they've been getting fucking spoiled for about 10 years now.


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Reply #84 on: November 10, 2010, 04:09:01 AM

Ugh, yeah, that sucks too. 99% of the time I watch things on DVD rather than when they're broadcast for exactly this kind of reason. Plus no adverts.

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Reply #85 on: November 10, 2010, 07:33:22 AM

We saw the end of Anchorman on cable and they split the screen for the (sped-up) credits....left hand of the screen was the credits for Anchorman. Right hand of the screen was the opening sequence....of Anchorman.  swamp poop

I also hate the spoiler teasers, my fiancee loves them and gets upset that I stop them. I've now learned to pause it and leave the room so she can watch them (she forgets almost everything she watches on tv, it's kind of amazing kind of scary).
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Reply #86 on: November 10, 2010, 08:17:35 AM

She probably forgets all the annoying shit you do too.  So it balances out. I figure my wifes memory is the only reason she's with me.

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Reply #87 on: November 10, 2010, 09:18:36 AM

Next Time On is a device I don't actually mind when it's done properly.  Spartacus, for example, was really well done with that.

What really bugs me is when they end on a possible fatality and then the 'next time on' shows the chap eating ice cream.  Way to miss the fucking point.

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Reply #88 on: November 10, 2010, 10:11:38 AM

Other than the rain bit and knowing the hick is going to show up again, awesome second episode. Much like the first, it managed to keep me nervous all through out waiting for the moment someone gets jumped. It'll actually have to happen soon to keep that up because it's creating an atmosphere I haven't seen come out of any other show.

Next Time On is a device I don't actually mind when it's done properly.  Spartacus, for example, was really well done with that.

What really bugs me is when they end on a possible fatality and then the 'next time on' shows the chap eating ice cream.  Way to miss the fucking point.

Can't agree more. Spartacus nailed what it means to give a reason for the viewers to look forward to the next week.
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Reply #89 on: November 10, 2010, 02:18:55 PM

I also really hated BSG's preview thing, where they'd flash clips of the current episode you were watching during the last part of the opening credits.  Since they would often put some major spoiler in there somewhere, like a quick flash of an important ship blowing up or something.   Ohhhhh, I see.

Loving the show so far.  Seems like a very good adaptation of the comics.  The specifics are different, but the scenes and plot are all exactly the same.

Though the tank thing reminds me of when I first saw that scene in the comics.  Seriously, wtf could even a horde of these zombies do against a tank?  Or a fortified military position?  How did the guys in the tank even die?  They wouldn't even need to shoot!  Just drive up and down the street like killdozer, killing thousands.  I love the genre and all, but it always does make me sort of laugh at these situations when your dealing with classic style zombies (and not the newer "fast zombies" we see more).

I thought the ending of Shaun of the Dead did a great job of making fun of this.

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Reply #90 on: November 10, 2010, 03:35:17 PM

I also really hated BSG's preview thing, where they'd flash clips of the current episode you were watching during the last part of the opening credits.  Since they would often put some major spoiler in there somewhere, like a quick flash of an important ship blowing up or something.   Ohhhhh, I see.

Loving the show so far.  Seems like a very good adaptation of the comics.  The specifics are different, but the scenes and plot are all exactly the same.

Though the tank thing reminds me of when I first saw that scene in the comics.  Seriously, wtf could even a horde of these zombies do against a tank?  Or a fortified military position?  How did the guys in the tank even die?  They wouldn't even need to shoot!  Just drive up and down the street like killdozer, killing thousands.  I love the genre and all, but it always does make me sort of laugh at these situations when your dealing with classic style zombies (and not the newer "fast zombies" we see more).

I thought the ending of Shaun of the Dead did a great job of making fun of this.

Love the show, but I'm glad i wasn't the only thinking this. I mean it looked like the had plenty of time to set up a functioning barricade, how in the hell were they overrun?
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Reply #91 on: November 10, 2010, 03:47:08 PM

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 Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #92 on: November 10, 2010, 03:58:25 PM

If you haven't read World War Z, you should.

Fantastic depiction of the scenario you're talking about.
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Reply #93 on: November 11, 2010, 08:13:57 AM

Love the show, but I'm glad i wasn't the only thinking this. I mean it looked like the had plenty of time to set up a functioning barricade, how in the hell were they overrun?

Occam's razor says one of the tankers was hiding an infection and thinking he'd be alright... until he wasn't.

The halloween episode of Community did a great job of this. "I thought I'd be the one that was immune!"

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Reply #94 on: November 11, 2010, 10:34:23 AM

Well that's the reason why zombie movies always start AFTER the apparent apocalypse and collapse of everything. It really wouldn't be all that difficult to manage and contain.


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Reply #95 on: November 11, 2010, 10:42:55 AM

Yes.  Yes it would.

We can't even contain a fucking flu virus.  And people with the flu don't get back up and chew on your fucking neck.

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Reply #96 on: November 11, 2010, 10:59:29 AM

Yes.  Yes it would.

We can't even contain a fucking flu virus.  And people with the flu don't get back up and chew on your fucking neck.

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If we could go around blowing the heads off anybody who coughed, the flu would be gone forever.  You see zombie, you exterminate zombie, it's less like a disease outbreak than it is a pest infestation.

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Reply #97 on: November 11, 2010, 11:03:12 AM

You're just making my point for me.  I think humans probably WOULD wander around blowing the heads of everyone who coughed.  Which leads to mass panic, confusion, paranoia, people left and right protecting relatives and friends, fleeing countries, spreading that cough.

Fucking Hell, just read World War Z.  It's plausible enough, I'm afraid.

Further, you add in an infection period over 24 hours and your whole world is fucked.

Anyway, here's my main point :

STOP FUCKING UP A ZOMBIE STORY THREAD WITH 'OMG THIS IS SO UNREALISTIC'.  FUCK OFF YOU HOSERS.

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Reply #98 on: November 11, 2010, 11:06:04 AM

Ohhhhh, I see.

I'm sure no would hide being infected until it was too late to do anything about with that attitude going around.

Which reminds me of one of the standard Zombie problems I always think about that I can't think of a single film addressing off the top of my head. What happens when you just kick the bucket unexpectedly from natural causes in the middle of the night while sleeping with the rest of the survivors. PARTY TIME.

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Reply #99 on: November 11, 2010, 11:14:54 AM

Which reminds me of one of the standard Zombie problems I always think about that I can't think of a single film addressing off the top of my head. What happens when you just kick the bucket unexpectedly from natural causes in the middle of the night while sleeping with the rest of the survivors. PARTY TIME.

Only an issue in a world where anyone who dies becomes a zombie (e.g. the "cosmic space dust"/"act of God" scenario, like the Romero films), rather than requiring direct exposure to the "infection" (most other zombie movies I've seen).

I feel like in some Romero-type stories (but maybe not any of the Romero movies) there's been the idea of post-apocalyptic settlements having everyone sleeping behind zombie-proof doors to make sure that people who die in their sleep stay contained and don't eat everyone else.  Doesn't seem like it'd be that hard as long as your zombies can't handle doorknobs or ladders or whatever.

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Reply #100 on: November 11, 2010, 11:16:27 AM

There's two types of zombie story really :  Infection causing ambulation and death doing it.

The death doing it one is rarer because, frankly, it's pretty wank.  There have, however, been stories like you suggest and it pretty much works how you suggest.  Brooks wrote one about survivors holing up with the infected and being fucked from inside.

The infection thing is also a get out clause for 'What about the people in the ground already' cliche.

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Reply #101 on: November 11, 2010, 11:26:57 AM

The infection thing is also a get out clause for 'What about the people in the ground already' cliche.

On the other hand, if existing reasonably-fresh corpses do get up when the apocalypse starts... yeah, no fucking way that's being contained.  Nobody gets time to figure out what's going on before a zombie is chewing on their face because nobody lives that far from the nearest ground zero.

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Reply #102 on: November 11, 2010, 11:38:38 AM

You and I know that containment won't work short-term anyway.

I have my retreat point all worked out.  Hell, Brooks even mentioned it in his account.   why so serious?

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Reply #103 on: November 11, 2010, 11:39:41 AM

I loved World War Z and I love this show, but if there were a real zombie outbreak it would be exterminated in short order. As soon as everyone is alarmed enough to lock themselves indoors and the local SWAT team is deployed to take out zombies, that's pretty much it. Biting is a pretty shitty and ineffective way to spread a disease.

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Reply #104 on: November 11, 2010, 11:42:56 AM

Yes.  Yes it would.

We can't even contain a fucking flu virus.  And people with the flu don't get back up and chew on your fucking neck.

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The Flu is Airborne. If the zombie infection is too, then yea we be fucked, but it's usually biting or whatever, like Rabies.

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