End of Nations (MMORTS)

[Ghambit]

Did this just get pushed back to "closed alpha" status?

As far as I know they've only ever been in closed alpha?

So then what's with the huge marketing push for beta invites the past 6 months?
I guess they've just taken a big step back across the boards.  Anyways, I got an alpha invite.  NDA though of course.  Will see if I can get a grp. invite for those interested. (unless someone already did, hence why I got one)

[Mrbloodworth]

End of Nations - E3 2012 Trailer Revealed

[HaemishM]

So they're going for a goofy esports vibe?

[Mrbloodworth]

In that video, yeah. The game at large? No idea.

[Phred]

So they're going for a goofy esports vibe?

Maybe you should wait until you see a Trion video before pulling out the jump to conclusions mat.

[Malakili]

So they're going for a goofy esports vibe?

Maybe you should wait until you see a Trion video before pulling out the jump to conclusions mat.

That video was a trion video, it was their e3 hype video.  That being said, they aren't really going for that vibe as near as I can tell, they've said they have a lot of eSports fans on the dev team, but that they don't intended to have anything eSportsy in on launch.  (Mike Legg said this recently in an interview with Total Biscuit).

Either way, it was an odd video honestly.  Then again, I'm not 100% sure they even know where they are going with the game at this point.  It seems like a bunch of ideas mashed together and I'm not so sure that it is going to work out.

[Phred]

My bad then.

[Malakili]

My bad then.

No worries.  Here is the video I was referring to with Mike Legg and Total Biscuit if anyone is interested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN3mnVcPzr0&feature=g-u-u

[HaemishM]

That's why I noticed it, because nothing I'd seen of the game before had given me the Smash TV sort of e-Sports vibe that video did. It seemed... odd, thus I noted it. I'm still not sure this game has any attraction for me. I'm terribad at RTS but I am intrigued at the idea of how they shoehorn MMO onto RTS.

[Dark_MadMax]

That's why I noticed it, because nothing I'd seen of the game before had given me the Smash TV sort of e-Sports vibe that video did. It seemed... odd, thus I noted it. I'm still not sure this game has any attraction for me. I'm terribad at RTS but I am intrigued at the idea of how they shoehorn MMO onto RTS.

If anything pvp thought me - you either become good at it  or have iron skin 10 inches thick.   Losing is bad enough, losing and being actually bad is worse as you get called  all kind of things and all sort of rated x action suggested done to you and your familiy

[Malakili]

That's why I noticed it, because nothing I'd seen of the game before had given me the Smash TV sort of e-Sports vibe that video did. It seemed... odd, thus I noted it. I'm still not sure this game has any attraction for me. I'm terribad at RTS but I am intrigued at the idea of how they shoehorn MMO onto RTS.

If anything pvp thought me - you either become good at it  or have iron skin 10 inches thick.   Losing is bad enough, losing and being actually bad is worse as you get called  all kind of things and all sort of rated x action suggested done to you and your familiy

Well, Petroglyph/Trion seem to be trying to make a game which offers something for everyone who wants to play an RTS.  So, according to what they've said you should be able to contribute to the meta game  (zone/world control) by just playing PvE if you want to.  I think the success of this game is going to rest widely on how good this meta game ends up actually being.  I worry that it could end up something like WAR, where it ends up being a gimmick that people simply exploit for the sake of ideal loot drops.   If they manage to pull it off, it could be pretty compelling.

[Malakili]

What we know (and don't know) about the End of Nations PvP Metagame

http://www.rtsguru.com/game/16/article/3355/The-Mysterious-Metagame-of-End-of-Nations.html

[Malakili]

Pricing: http://endofnations.com/en/products/founders-edition/compare-benefits/

EDIT:  Actually a bunch of news:

Closed Beta in 16 days, countdown clock here: http://endofnations.com/en/beta/

Information on founders edition: http://endofnations.com/en/products/founders-edition/ ($30)

[Gets]

Have video game companies completely lost the meaning of the word "veteran"? Can I pay someone and pretend I've toured Iraq?

[Malakili]

Have video game companies completely lost the meaning of the word "veteran"? Can I pay someone and pretend I've toured Iraq?

I think the idea is that if you buy the founders then you will have played in beta already by the time the game is released.   Therefore you will be a veteran, and therefore it is a "Veteran's Bonus."
All told, that is an awful odd thing to pick out of this announcement to get upset about though.  I'm much more interested in seeing what they are offering that is worth anything like 15 bucks a month.  Obviously that 15 dollar subscription side of it is optional, but I haven't seen anything that indicates I'll get anything like 15 bucks a month out of this game.

[Phred]

Besides, according to dictionary.com veteran has 2 meanings, one of which has nothing to do with military service.

[Gets]

I can always rely on you guys to nitpick my nitpickings 

What is the chance to get into the beta if I sign up now? My Trion account's second security question is "Where did you buy your first car?" and I don't have a car.

[Phred]

I can always rely on you guys to nitpick my nitpickings 

What is the chance to get into the beta if I sign up now? My Trion account's second security question is "Where did you buy your first car?" and I don't have a car.

Look for the dropdown menu. I'm positive my second question is different than that.

[Malakili]

They are doing a Twitch.tv live stream of the game right now: http://www.twitch.tv/trionworlds

Edit: and its over.

[Amaron]

Check your emails!  

Also why the same weekend as GW2? FML

[Mrbloodworth]

 

[Malakili]

Well, not that this has been a real hot title around these parts anyway, but: http://www.gamespot.com/news/end-of-nations-dev-laying-off-30-report-6401092

"Well, it appears this winter break will be extended indefinitely," Stevens said. This was followed by, "Layoffs at Petroglyph. Looking like I'll be leaving Las Vegas."

News of layoffs at the company follows publisher Trion and Petroglyph indefinitely postponing the open beta phase for End of Nations, with refunds going out to those who had already made a purchase. Petroglyph said "several key areas" of End of Nations need "polish and improvement."

Fears of the massively multiplayer online real-time strategy game's outright cancellation appear to be without merit, as End of Nations community manager Lance James bluntly stated in the game's forums, "End of Nations has not been canceled!"

I can't really say more without potentially breaking an NDA, so I'll just let this one speak for itself.

[Falconeer]

This makes me sad. I was wishing for this to be good.

[Mrbloodworth]

Yeah, sucks. 

[Draegan]

They still have an NDA for this game?

[Malakili]

They still have an NDA for this game?

For certain tests.  There was at least one no-NDA "public" test a while ago, but they continued with closed testing throughout, for which the NDA has not been lifted.

[JWIV]

What I'm hearing at least is that the game is not dead, but will be completely handled by Trion now.

[Malakili]

What I'm hearing at least is that the game is not dead, but will be completely handled by Trion now.

Yeah, which honestly might not be a bad thing.

[Draegan]

That's a great thing most likely.

[Malakili]

Well, they went totally dark for a long time - apparently overhauling the entire game.  Today a new website launched and they are rebranding this thing as a "tactical MOBA" whatever the hell that means.   Looks like any semblance of "MMO" this might have had is gone.

End of Nations® is a tactical MOBA where your success on the battlefield depends on the heroes and units you command and quick decision making in the heat of combat. Dominate during team-based matches and catapult your commander to the top of the ranks.

Perhaps given the taste of people around here the fact that this is a MOBA now will actually make it more interesting rather than less.

It looks like they are doing a new beta soon, and you have to re-sign up for it by the looks of things:

http://www.endofnations.com/en/register/

[HaemishM]

RTS MOBA sounds a whole helluva lot more workable than MMORTS. Plus, MOBA's are the new hotness - MMOG's are so 2k's.

[Margalis]

Why didn't they just make this an updated version of Shattered Galaxy and release it 3 years ago? That game was basically an MMO RTS / "RTS MOBA" and it was great.

[Ghambit]

I think I got the alpha to work once or something and the damned thing felt more like a MOBA anyways.  Small maps, not a lot of units, obvious chokepoints, etc.

[luckton]

Apparently, this game is either dead or was sent way back to the drawing board, as it's been completely removed from any mention on Trion Worlds' website.

Anyone with a wanna comment? 

[Malakili]

Apparently, this game is either dead or was sent way back to the drawing board, as it's been completely removed from any mention on Trion Worlds' website.

Anyone with a wanna comment? 

Hmm.