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Velorath
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Falcons are 11-2, and I'm still not hearing anything about them in the media flurry.
To be fair though, six of those wins were against NFC West teams, the Bengals, the Browns, and the Panthers. Against legitimate threats, they squeezed out wins against Green Bay, the Saints, and Baltimore, beat a mediocre Tampa Bay twice, and lost to the Steelers and Philly. Looking strictly at their Win/Loss, yeah they're the best team in the NFC, but they aren't blowing out good teams or anything. The Patriots are getting a lot of hype right now because in back-to-back games they just completely demolished what were supposed to be two of the best teams in the league. Atlanta isn't doing that. |
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HaemishM
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Wait, the Jets and the Bears are supposed to be two of the best teams in the league? Who the fuck thinks that? I realize the bobbleheads like to suck the Rex Ryan cock and Mike Martz' gaudy TD numbers overshadow the amount of sacks and INTs he makes his QB's suffer, but when have either team been considered two of the best? Despite their records, neither the Bears or the Jets are as good as they think they are themselves. Had New England crushed Baltimore or Pittsburgh, I might have agreed with you, but Chicago and the Jets? No. Both teams are overrated.
Unfortunately, New England will probably ass rape Green Bay this weekend. As for Atlanta, they squeaked out wins over good teams like Green Bay, the Saints and Baltimore. Much as I hate to admit it, they are probably the best team in the NFL right now, but Atlanta is not far behind.
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Velorath
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Wait, the Jets and the Bears are supposed to be two of the best teams in the league?
Sure, keeping in mind that I don't really find this to be one of the NFL's better seasons and by "of the best" I mean somewhere in the top 6-8 teams. I agree that Pittsburgh is a better team and that the Ravens are better than their record shows, losing some games to tough opponents by very small margins. Point being, it's not like NE blew out the Bengals and Broncos in back-to-back games, these are potential playoff teams (which admittedly is somewhat diminished praise considering the Rams, Seahawks, and Niners are also potential playoff teams). |
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Wait, the Jets and the Bears are supposed to be two of the best teams in the league?
Sure, keeping in mind that I don't really find this to be one of the NFL's better seasons and by "of the best" I mean somewhere in the top 6-8 teams. I agree that Pittsburgh is a better team and that the Ravens are better than their record shows, losing some games to tough opponents by very small margins. Point being, it's not like NE blew out the Bengals and Broncos in back-to-back games, these are potential playoff teams (which admittedly is somewhat diminished praise considering the Rams, Seahawks, and Niners are also potential playoff teams). Yeah but no one cares about those WAC teams.  |
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You know it's bad when they switch coverage from your team's game over to a different game with more than a quarter left to play - and you just don't give a shit. It gets better. While watching the game, to my right, a Patriots fan, and to my left, my fantasy playoff opponent who happened to be starting the NE defense. So. when the local feed switched to the MIA-NYJ game, my friends persuaded the bartender to switch to the Directv feed of the game so they could finish watching it. |
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Draegan
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It's boring, it's gritty, it's not at all flashy There's your answer. The same reason Mike Vick was a huge celebrity when he was in Atlanta despite the fact his teams never won more than 10 games or really got close to a Super Bowl. 2004 Vick got his team to the NFC Championship game. |
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El Gallo
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Steelers need to discover some way to score touchdowns on offense. In the past 3 games, they've scored one real offensive TD -- the very first drive against the Bills 3 games ago. In the last 11 quarters, they have one offensive TD, and that was a nine-yard drive set up by a fumble late in the Ravens game.
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HaemishM
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It's boring, it's gritty, it's not at all flashy There's your answer. The same reason Mike Vick was a huge celebrity when he was in Atlanta despite the fact his teams never won more than 10 games or really got close to a Super Bowl. 2004 Vick got his team to the NFC Championship game. My bad, they won 11 games that year. His completion % that year was 56.4%, which would have been terrible for a regular QB. |
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Paelos
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Hey at least he had a better completion % than the Sanchize!  |
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My bad, they won 11 games that year. His completion % that year was 56.4%, which would have been terrible for a regular QB.
Was that the percentage of completed dog executions? |
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HaemishM
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No, he was in the 90's with that.
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Azuredream
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He's leading the Pro Bowl vote (yes, even over Tom Brady)  |
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Cyrrex
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He's leading the Pro Bowl vote (yes, even over Tom Brady) To be fair, his overall impact seems to compare pretty well against Tom's. Having played three games fewer, he has accounted for 5 fewer TDs (that includes the rushing touchdowns), is a few points behind in completion percentage, a few points behind in rating, slightly behind in YPG (though higher in yards per attempt). Has rushed for nearly 500 yards. All that with what must be considered a weaker supporting cast. That, and he's decidedly more interesting to watch as a player...and love him or hate him, he's quite a story. |
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ghost
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The latest ESPN power rankings are interesting. Does anyone see a team besides the Falcons, Steelers, Patriots, Saints and maybe the Ravens winning the Superbowl? Also, it is striking how many absolutely fucking terrible teams there are this year. |
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Paelos
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NFL owners are praying the Rams win 2 more games so they don't have to deal with the rising clamor over the NFC West.
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Cyrrex
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NFL owners are praying the Rams win 2 more games so they don't have to deal with the rising clamor over the NFC West.
Or the Seahawks! Please? |
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HaemishM
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He's leading the Pro Bowl vote (yes, even over Tom Brady) To be fair, his overall impact seems to compare pretty well against Tom's. Having played three games fewer, he has accounted for 5 fewer TDs (that includes the rushing touchdowns), is a few points behind in completion percentage, a few points behind in rating, slightly behind in YPG (though higher in yards per attempt). Has rushed for nearly 500 yards. All that with what must be considered a weaker supporting cast. I disagree about the weaker cast. The Eagles offensive line is certainly worse than the Pats - it's absolute shit. But the wide receiver corp is much better. Past Welker, there really isn't a top line guy on the Pats anymore. Welker is a fantastic possession receiver but he's not a deep threat. DeSean Jackson is a young Randy Moss in terms of impact on the defense, and both Avant and Maclin are better than the rest of the Pats wideouts. Pats have better tight ends, and their running games are about equal. This is one of the best offensive teams the Eagles have had in years. Had McNabb had this kind of weapons when they went to the Super Bowl (instead of just T.O.), he might have won. |
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Cyrrex
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Points taken, but I was really thinking about the whole team and whole organization.
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Draegan
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It's boring, it's gritty, it's not at all flashy There's your answer. The same reason Mike Vick was a huge celebrity when he was in Atlanta despite the fact his teams never won more than 10 games or really got close to a Super Bowl. 2004 Vick got his team to the NFC Championship game. My bad, they won 11 games that year. His completion % that year was 56.4%, which would have been terrible for a regular QB. He did rush for 900 yards that year though. Still pretty good. |
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Bandit
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It's boring, it's gritty, it's not at all flashy There's your answer. The same reason Mike Vick was a huge celebrity when he was in Atlanta despite the fact his teams never won more than 10 games or really got close to a Super Bowl. 2004 Vick got his team to the NFC Championship game. One of my favourite recent memories of the Eagles. Some of Jim Johnson's best work as a defensive coordinator, shutting down Vick to like 150 yards total offense and propelling the Eagles to the Super Bowl. Fat Hollis Thomas planted Vick hardcore in that game. Jim Johnson RIP. |
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JWIV
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Christ - Shanahan really does fit perfectly in the Redskins system
Rex Grossman confirmed to be starting over McNabb. What a fucking joke.
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Paelos
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Christ - Shanahan really does fit perfectly in the Redskins system
Rex Grossman confirmed to be starting over McNabb. What a fucking joke.
Get real. McNabb has has a 14/15 TD-INT rate, and a 77 passer rating. Alex Smith is 12/10 with a 79 rating. McNabb is old, busted, and done. The season has to move towards the next thing now and developing anything in the stable for the next season. |
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Rasix
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Didn't they just give McNabb a shit load of money?
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Cyrrex
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It's the Redskins. They give everybody a shitload of money.
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HaemishM
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Now that is totally fuckstupid. Yeah, McNabb has hardly lit the world on fire. It's a shitty team around him. Santana Moss is about 3-4 years past his best numbers. Portis is always hurt and he hasn't had a stable RB all year. Their defense is abysmal and they can't even kick extra points reliably. And he thinks switching to SUPER BOWL QUARTERBACK REX GROSSMAN is a fucking option? Christ, he'd have been better to sign Purple Drank Russell to backup McNabb. Having just given McNabb the big contract just makes it extra lolworthy. At least they got an out in the contract where they can release his ass and only lose about $3 million.
Maybe Shanahan is trying to throw the last few games so he can get a better draft pick. Maybe he's angling to draft Cam Newton. He's certainly got to be thinking of drafting a QB as #1 next year. Nothing else makes sense except a massive stroke.
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Paelos
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Didn't they just give McNabb a shit load of money?
No, they said they did, but the details of his contract are that he gets $3.75M for 2010, and if they cut him they don't owe him jack shit. |
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Rasix
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Didn't they just give McNabb a shit load of money?
No, they said they did, but the details of his contract are that he gets $3.75M for 2010, and if they cut him they don't owe him jack shit. Gee, wonder what'll happen the second the season ends. |
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Didn't they just give McNabb a shit load of money?
No, they said they did, but the details of his contract are that he gets $3.75M for 2010, and if they cut him they don't owe him jack shit. Gee, wonder what'll happen the second the season ends. Shanahan will go back to work in Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory? |
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That's a close relative to the "I know my man is triple covered, but I'm throwing it anyway" fan club.
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Bandit
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Interesting Redskin "free"-agents that were highly overpaid and never panned-out (at least with the Redskins):
Bruce Smith (had OK run with Skins, but not previous HoF type play)
Jeff George
Jermiah Trotter
Dana Stubblefield
Adam Archuleta (highest paid safety at that point)
Dieon Sanders
Albert Haynesworth (highest paid DL)
Donovan McNabb
Randel El
Brandon Lloyd
I am sure there are plenty more that could be added to that list. I had a harder time thinking of successful free agents for the skins - Laverneous Coles (even though he bolted)?
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Paelos
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Nothing makes me happier as a Cowboys fan than watching the Redskins screw up late with no hope of getting better, while the Boys fire their albatross coach.
Until Jerry hires a new hand-puppet.
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HaemishM
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It's amazing that Brandon Lloyd goes to the Broncos, with Kyle "Neckbeard" Orton as QB and a coach that got fired for losing over like 18 out of 20 games in a row and has better numbers than the whole time he was in Washington. Is there just some performance dampening field over the entire Redskins organization?
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